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Port Arthur massacre conspiracy

Brainache

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This is a new one to me. Australians would be pretty familiar with this case, but I had never heard any suggestion that Martin Bryant was framed or that there was any sort of cover-up. Now of course someone is claiming that it was all part of some government evil plot to convict an intellectually impaired young man of Australia's worst mass murder.

I haven't looked into it too deeply as I only heard about it last night.

I guess it makes a change from 9/11.

http://home.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/portarthur.html
 
What? Change from 9/11?? Obviously you are a paid disinfo agent and a shill.:D

Ya got me with the title.I live a few hours drive(which in Canada as in Australia is not that much) from a city which is an amalgamation of two former separate cities one of which was named Port Arthur.


I skimmed over the page you linked to and I could find no detail on the Crown's case only the characterization of their case by the author of the website.

What actually prompted the police to look at the boy in the first place?
 
jaydeehess said:
What? Change from 9/11?? Obviously you are a paid disinfo agent and a shill.:D

Ya got me with the title.I live a few hours drive(which in Canada as in Australia is not that much) from a city which is an amalgamation of two former separate cities one of which was named Port Arthur.


I skimmed over the page you linked to and I could find no detail on the Crown's case only the characterization of their case by the author of the website.

What actually prompted the police to look at the boy in the first place?
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He was recognized by some of the survivors at the Broad Arrow cafe, continued his shooting spree to the Seascape guesthouse, where he took a hostage and stood off police for 18 hours. He was captured after he set fire to the building and ran outside with his clothes on fire.
 
Carnivore said:
He was recognized by some of the survivors at the Broad Arrow cafe, continued his shooting spree to the Seascape guesthouse, where he took a hostage and stood off police for 18 hours. He was captured after he set fire to the building and ran outside with his clothes on fire.
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Really,, odd that that does not make it onto the webpage:boggled: :D
 
Oh man we had a nutcase on wikipedia who kept trying to advance this conspiracy theory. Made the creationists look only mildly anoying.
 
The guy was walking around shooting people. It was major news over here in Aus. He was caught by the police, during a stand off. How on earth anyone can find a conspiracy in this is unreal.

Its amazing how far people go to have a big secret plot only they seem to have uncovered. CT'ers actually dont know what they dont know.
 
I'm starting to think it is about the reforms to the gun ownership laws that came about as a result of the massacre.

The CTs think it was all orchestrated by the authorities so they would lose the right to own semi-automatic weapons. Of course the dress it up with a lot of rubbish about injustice and trial by media, but they really are clutching at straws with all that.

The guy was mentally deficient and he didn't have a license, but he walked in off the street and bought an assault rifle in a shop in Hobart.
 
I ma from Melbourne and I don't know anyone who wasn't deeply effected by Port Arthur. I worked with one of those shot and wounded - her daughter was killed.
I have read this rubbish before, and couldn't go through it again. The original author, Joe Vialls is now dead. Good riddance.
 
The conspiracy theory I remember is that apparently the Australian Government planned the Port Arthur massacre to try and drum up support for some fairly restrictive gun control laws. It's utter bulltwaddle (it was the massacre which moved Howard to put forth the laws, not vice versa. He could have quite easily passed gun control laws without something such as that), but that was the theory I remember being advocated.
 
I first read about this one in Nexus magazine (I peruse the woo-mags in the newsagents occasionally...am considering buying one just to avoid the weird looks I get) - it made me so freaking mad at the time, and it still does. The worst part being that it was only part two of a three part feature.

It essentially boiled down to the idea that they had someone impersonate Bryant to place him at various times on the way to Port Arthur, and then coerced him into a confession - that he was caught quite literally with his pants on fire is evidently not important.

Any more information on this conspiracy would be much appreciated, as it is one of the ones that hits closer to home for me as an Australian.

That Bryant is still alive is to me one of the great mysteries to me...I was certain at the time that the death penalty would be brought back in light of the massacre. Instead he is marked as "Never to be released" - a fate some might view as worse than death I suppose.
 
I can remember one of my sons friends did a school project on the event. (for some reason). Unfortunately, he looked up google and found one of the web sites that supported the conspiracy. I told it was all lies. Martin Bryant was also involved in some suspicious activities before Port Arthur, including a possible homicide.
 
Jeezis man... could you add the country, to this post? I was afraid the golden triangle, was in deep doodoo. That being in Texas, and Louisiana, there are lots of us here. Whew...carry on!
 
Dog Town said:
Jeezis man... could you add the country, to this post? I was afraid the golden triangle, was in deep doodoo. That being in Texas, and Louisiana, there are lots of us here. Whew...carry on!
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Sorry I didn't know you had a Port Arthur in Texas. I knew you had Paris, but who knew about Port Arthur?
 
There are probably a lot of Port Arthur's around the former English colonies.

Port Arthur , Texas , USA
Port Arthur , Tasmania , Australia
Port Arthur , Ontario , Canada (now amalgamated as part of Thunder Bay)
Port Arthur China (Now Lushan)
Port Arthur , Scalloway, Scotland
 
I've read quite a bit about the Port Arthur Massacre (too long ago to have all of the relevant details at my fingertips) and while most of the CTs' spoutings are risible there still exist 'facts' that suggest that Martin Bryant might not have acted alone.

At least two of the police officers at the siege reported that gunfire was coming from different parts of the guest house at the same time. I've even heard a recording of Martin Bryant talking to a police negotiator while gunfire can be heard in the background, far away. The police aren't firing, Martin Bryant isn't firing, somebody else is firing, it sounds like, from another part of the house. Also, while talking to the police negotiator, Bryant spots and identifies distant police (or special forces) marksmen, hidden, at night, without any sort of night vision device. There are other incongruities, it's worth exploring the subject a little.

What really leaves one rubbing one's chin are the actions of the authorities after the horrific event. Bryant's lightning quick identification by the press. No full trial or inquiry. Crime scene contaminated and then destroyed...

Lots of other little CT treats exist, also. The purchase and disposal of a colossal mobile morgue by the local authority. The absence of senior management from the PAHS. The coincidence of a hospital full of trauma specialists on the nearby mainland...

Bryant obviously had something to do with the days events. The government obviously didn't sanction the murder of dozens to push through legislation. But, I'm not sure the evidence identified by the CTs can be so easily shrugged off. Not all of it, at least.

(Apologies, I don't have links to hand, I'll try to track them down and post them here.)
 
jaydeehess said:
There are probably a lot of Port Arthur's around the former English colonies.

Port Arthur , Texas , USA
Port Arthur , Tasmania , Australia
Port Arthur , Ontario , Canada (now amalgamated as part of Thunder Bay)
Port Arthur China (Now Lushan)
Port Arthur , Scalloway, Scotland
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Ahem!?!
 
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Facts about Port Arthur. The Guest House was the end game

Bryant had been wandering around the site killing people in the park land and slaughtering the patrons of the tea house - He went to the guest house after he realised he'd missed the returning ferry from the Island of Lost Souls. His intentions so it seems, was to spray the vessel as it docked with gun fire.

The siege at the guesthouse lasted most of the night and only ended when a fire broke out. From memory Bryant had to be transfered to hospital for treatment to serious burns to his back.

Bryant is still alive, and has never claimed any complicty from other people or help from the goverment

In fact the scumbag is proud of what he did

Anyone wants to believe this need to go talk to the suvivers. Talk to the mother who watched her young daughter chased around a tree a number of times before Bryant shot her dead.

I opposes the death penalty - but in this boys case I would make an exception

Sorry rant over
 
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