Telekinesiologist now at JREF!

I'll stop "harassing" anyone who doesn't come in with a pack of lies for us to believe.

There's no such thing as telekinesis. Right off the top, anyone who claims this ability is lying, if only to themselves.

I was fooled for too long into believing otherwise, and it was only when people like James Randi pointed out to me where I was wrong that I grew up and took responsibility for myself and stopped believing in every piece of crap that was tossed my way. So I will continue to call a fraud a fraud, a liar a liar, and a delusional child a delusional child.

If woosters and troofers comes here, they should expect to be corrected, not coddled. There are other websites for the delusional; places like Loose Change and Sylvia Browne come to mind. Let them run their on-line daycare centers for the lost and bewildered.

And if anything in this post runs against the policies of JREF, then I request that those who run this site will correct me, publically or privately.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-
 
Fnord said:
I'll stop "harassing" anyone who doesn't come in with a pack of lies for us to believe.

There's no such thing as telekinesis. Right off the top, anyone who claims this ability is lying, if only to themselves.

I was fooled for too long into believing otherwise, and it was only when people like James Randi pointed out to me where I was wrong that I grew up and took responsibility for myself and stopped believing in every piece of crap that was tossed my way. So I will continue to call a fraud a fraud, a liar a liar, and a delusional child a delusional child.

If woosters and troofers comes here, they should expect to be corrected, not coddled. There are other websites for the delusional; places like Loose Change and Sylvia Browne come to mind. Let them run their on-line daycare centers for the lost and bewildered.

And if anything in this post runs against the policies of JREF, then I request that those who run this site will correct me, publically or privately.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-
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TheTelekinesiologist said:
I will but you guy's gotta give me some time. I'll check in every once in a while. Don't get pissed off if I take a while to reply.
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I've said it before - maybe you missed it. Instead of trying to make it move, try to keep the paper perfectly still. You should be able to that without any additional practice.

You also never acknowledged the corrections you were given about the 10% myth and alpha particles.

Do you realize now that alpha particles could not be coming from your brain, and that humans use 100% of their brain? Do you dispute this?

It is OK to be wrong - and it is a fine feature in a person to be able to admit it.
 
steenkh said:
Fnord - and others - please stop harassing a young believer coming to our site. It is really depressing that some members here welcome comments from believers in such a rude fashion. This is what gives our forum such a bad reputation elsewhere.

In actuality, we can explain to TK why his methods lead to self-delusion without resorting to such methods.

Some other member here even told TK to stop wasting our time. Which would effectively mean that all woo-woos should stop posting here, because they are always wasting our time. Those members should perhaps rather spend their time on other threads.
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Sorry mate, but I think that's bollocks.

This little bloke - and I have two boys his age in my house - needs a good kick in the pants. He was treated very nicely at the start, the odd humourous barb aside, and hell, I'm sure Galileo put up with worse and this chappie's about to change every single physical law of the entire universe, so I think a touch of scepicism and humour is well in order!

He was given the opportunity to state his case, did so, and was shown LOTS and LOTS of evidence that he isn't in fact telekinetic, but just misled.

There's your education, done and dusted.

When the said young bloke then just dismisses all that and tells us that "we'll be shown" etc., etc., ad nauseum, the time for education has gone and the time for troll-baiting has begun.

You're asking us to treat this young bloke as though he's a five-year old with an imaginary friend. Kids less than a year older than him get shipped off to wars - it's a harsh world out there and this kid needs to grow up. Unless university in Canada is a rest-home for the ill-adjusted, weak of mind and pathetically unstable, this bloke is going to get eaten alive in the "real" world.

N.B. Telekinesiologist: This is a quick message for you. I'm sorry we burst your bubble, but you have some serious growing up to do, and the sooner the better, for your own life. Thanks for the fun.
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
I think garette's right guys. I think I'm gonna step down and think this over. Sorry if I let any of you down.
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I'd like to be one more JREFer to congratulate you on reaching this point. Few people who come to believe they have such powers have the ability to absorb criticism and review their beliefs.

I think you should keep testing this as carefully as you can, for your own education. Good luck.
 
Starrman said:
I've said it before - maybe you missed it. Instead of trying to make it move, try to keep the paper perfectly still. You should be able to that without any additional practice.

You also never acknowledged the corrections you were given about the 10% myth and alpha particles.

Do you realize now that alpha particles could not be coming from your brain, and that humans use 100% of their brain? Do you dispute this?

It is OK to be wrong - and it is a fine feature in a person to be able to admit it.
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Sorry for missing your post Starrman, it's very hard keeping up with the posts. I mean, I don't usually sit at the PC all day...exept yesterday.:D

yes I have tried to make it stay still. I left it in a room yesterday and recorded it's position.

Initially: North
Day Later: North East (probably caused by shutting of door, etc)

I don't think 45 degrees is a big deal but you may think differently.

Alright, I'll admit that I might be wrong about some things. I really don't know too much about the alpha particle thing. I just herd it from somewhere. Also, I've learned about a year ago, in a biology textbook that human's use 10% of their brain power and also herd it from a variety of other souces throughout my life. Alot of theory's in science are not proven, so you may be right. If this is true, the only explanation for telekinesis, if it exists, is that you are using more than 100% of the brain, which may be caused by evolution, etc.
 
Fnord said:
I'll stop "harassing" anyone who doesn't come in with a pack of lies for us to believe.

There's no such thing as telekinesis. Right off the top, anyone who claims this ability is lying, if only to themselves.

I was fooled for too long into believing otherwise, and it was only when people like James Randi pointed out to me where I was wrong that I grew up and took responsibility for myself and stopped believing in every piece of crap that was tossed my way. So I will continue to call a fraud a fraud, a liar a liar, and a delusional child a delusional child.

If woosters and troofers comes here, they should expect to be corrected, not coddled. There are other websites for the delusional; places like Loose Change and Sylvia Browne come to mind. Let them run their on-line daycare centers for the lost and bewildered.

And if anything in this post runs against the policies of JREF, then I request that those who run this site will correct me, publically or privately.

-Fnord of Dyscordia-
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I know it's hard to believe considering that you have only relied on words and have been fooled many times.
That's why I've created a clip on youtube so that everyone could comment on it. I will admit, I could be fooling myself but I doubt it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbLVEJCa9Qs

Tell me what I should do to improve the next clip, besides moving something else. I feel this clip is a little different than the rest considering I'm standing 4m away. I only made this clip to prove what I can do so far.
If you think this is fake, I will gladly improve it with your suggestions.
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
Alright, I'll admit that I might be wrong about some things. I really don't know too much about the alpha particle thing. I just herd it from somewhere. Also, I've learned about a year ago, in a biology textbook that human's use 10% of their brain power and also herd it from a variety of other souces throughout my life. Alot of theory's in science are not proven, so you may be right. If this is true, the only explanation for telekinesis, if it exists, is that you are using more than 100% of the brain, which may be caused by evolution, etc.
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Well done. You've already improved your position.

Come on mate, 'fess up. It ain't real, you fooled yourself.

If you get that far, you'll certainly earn a huge amount of respect - including from me.

Ask yourself - "why do all these people think I'm nuts?" We don't do it to piss you off and we certainly don't do it because we're scared of your ability. I guarantee you that if someone passed the MDC at any stage, the people here would be the loudest voices proclaiming the breakthrough. We'd love you to be right, but we know you aren't.
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
If you think this is fake, I will gladly improve it with your suggestions.
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1) it's sitting on top of a device which radiates heat

2) I found with my little test the other night, even the slightest of movements caused it to turn... from AIR movement... you grand strokes are moving air around. Put it in a jar.

3) Ground yourself

4) Try moving something which isn't balanced on the head of a pin where the slightest bit of air or static will move it... in other words, put the piece of paper on top of the stereo... and move it.

I can't believe you seriously think you have any powers because you can move a bit of paper... on the head of a pin. Next, you might take a stone and tie it to a string and seach for gold in the back yard.
 
The Atheist said:
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Well done. You've already improved your position.

Come on mate, 'fess up. It ain't real, you fooled yourself.

If you get that far, you'll certainly earn a huge amount of respect - including from me.

Ask yourself - "why do all these people think I'm nuts?" We don't do it to piss you off and we certainly don't do it because we're scared of your ability. I guarantee you that if someone passed the MDC at any stage, the people here would be the loudest voices proclaiming the breakthrough. We'd love you to be right, but we know you aren't.
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Well, I certainly wish I was in your shoes right now. I know your not trying to piss me off. I would actually drop this right now. The only problem is...it gets easier and easier every time I do it and I just can't give up. Yesterday, I did it without my hands! It was just the power of a thought!
As soon as I thought it, it moved. I know it's weird but I still can't explain it. And if I can't explain it I'm not dropping it. Sorry man but I'm just in too deep to give up now. Unless someone can explain why this is happening other that heat, static electricity, wind, and hallucination, I must continue to see if I can continue.:boggled:
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
Well, I certainly wish I was in your shoes right now. I know your not trying to piss me off. I would actually drop this right now. The only problem is...it gets easier and easier every time I do it and I just can't give up. Yesterday, I did it without my hands! It was just the power of a thought!
As soon as I thought it, it moved. I know it's weird but I still can't explain it. And if I can't explain it I'm not dropping it. Sorry man but I'm just in too deep to give up now. Unless someone can explain why this is happening other that heat, static electricity, wind, and hallucination, I must continue to see if I can continue.:boggled:
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My best suggestion is to follow other people's advice and try to move somthing not balanced on the head of a pin. I doubt you could ever get a place without sufficient static to move something as easy as a psi-wheel (or facsimile).

Place a single match on the table. When you manage to light it with the power of your mind, come and tell us about it. Meanwhile - do your studies and give up this other BS.

You'll feel better for it.
 
DangerousBeliefs said:
1) it's sitting on top of a device which radiates heat

2) I found with my little test the other night, even the slightest of movements caused it to turn... from AIR movement... you grand strokes are moving air around. Put it in a jar.

3) Ground yourself

4) Try moving something which isn't balanced on the head of a pin where the slightest bit of air or static will move it... in other words, put the piece of paper on top of the stereo... and move it.

I can't believe you seriously think you have any powers because you can move a bit of paper... on the head of a pin. Next, you might take a stone and tie it to a string and seach for gold in the back yard.
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Answers:

1)The device had just been turned on but thanks anyway. I'll make sure I change that next time by putting it on a table. What If I put glasses of cold ice around it to block heat?

2)I was at a considerable distance (4 meters). Try waving your hands like I did. Nothing will happen. For me, moving my hands is kind of like a guide so I can fool my mind into thinking the paper and my hand are connected.
I will try the glass. I've tried it with a plasic container but nothing happened.:confused:

3)Certainly! I just found an old grounding strap you plug in an outlet. I'll try it.

4)I have rolled a can a few days ago but it was an accident. I was trying to spin the psi wheel the other day when the can beside me started rolling. I could not repeat this. This is not the first time this has happened though. It's happened many times with objects like batteries, pencils, large sheets of paper, cd's, etc. My sister said she thought she saw a headphone wire levitate a few cm beside me, but I cannot confirm that.
 
Tk,

I just tried it at home. You are sooooo right! It moves when I think about it. It also moves when I don't think about it. It moves when I place my hands near it. It changes direction when I change the position of my hands. Totally amazing... If only I were doing this in a vacuum. Get real, it is moved by air currents.

IXP
 
IXP said:
Tk,

I just tried it at home. You are sooooo right! It moves when I think about it. It also moves when I don't think about it. It moves when I place my hands near it. It changes direction when I change the position of my hands. Totally amazing... If only I were doing this in a vacuum. Get real, it is moved by air currents.

IXP
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It may be to early to tell if it's telekinesis, but I think there is really something to this stuff. I'm gonna have to drop the psi wheel and move on to something better and more believable.
 
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