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"Evolution isn't science"

Well yeah. I think in a more figurative sense, god made the first humans from dirt, and prone to not listening to him because of our nasty gift of free will, and prone to falling to the least bit of temptation due to some weird kind of fellow animal peer pressure by a snake satan. Well, er, did Satan exist after genesis? Or is he like god and equally omnipotent and came out of nowhere to be this snake peer pressure character? I forget. So, anyway, we must pay for being made these free willed prone to temptation things.

We weak minded, made from dirt, humans must pay forever for being made these flawed prone to temptation things from dirt, and oh.... and made from Adam's rib too. I knew I needed this paragraph in here somewhere.

Yet, from these flawed rib dirt beings god made a son in some young girl's body. Just so he could see us flawed dirt rib beings kick this son from a flawed dirt rib being arund and die for these flawed dirt rib beings.

Yeah, it all makes sense. And the Easter bunny isn't flawed, since it was made just from dirt, and not Adam's rib, and never fell to temptations because of the satan snake, so it's all good at Easter.
 
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In the spirit (or would that be soul ;)) of Eos' post I'd like to share my own personal response to an isipid bit of rhyme from AiG. If any of them toss out the "goo to you via the zoo" you can hit 'em back with "clod to a bod because of God."
 
jesus_freak said:
http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/N.Am/hidden.proofs.giant.race.html
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Don't you think this guy might just be a bit crazy?

Steve Quayle, see Bio link
SourceWatch on Quayle doesn't give much in the way of opinion but Quayle's complete lack of credentials from anything other than appearing on George Noory's Coast to Coast and writing a few books which it looks like from the publisher's address, Safe-Trek Publishing. 90 Safe-Trek Place. Bozeman, MT 59715, he published himself (IE he paid them to print it). His contact address from SourceWatch is, 315 Edelweiss Dr.
Bozeman, MT 59718. Quayle's radio show is one he broadcasts himself on his "shortwave radio" then puts on the Internet.

Crazy people on the 'Educate yourself' website think Quayle is crazy: Steve Quayle ~ Selling Doom & Gloom; Promoting End Times Programming and British Israel.

Steve Quayle: Foreign Submarines Off Both Coasts + more from the rumor mill news reading room.
 
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switchtech said:
I guess I'm guilty of simplifying it too far. Creationists deny that microevolution can result in macroevolution. So I tried to imply that macroevolution is the result of microevolution and that macroevolution can influence, to a degree, microevolution. While specific change to specific change they aren't the same, they are interrelated. But I don't have the symbol for that on my keyboard ;)
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The terms micro and macro-evolution might be valid, but the hypothesis is not. Now that we have 2 decades of genetic science any basis for the hypothesis you can get little changes but not species changes is gone.
 
skeptigirl said:
The terms micro and macro-evolution might be valid, but the hypothesis is not. Now that we have 2 decades of genetic science any basis for the hypothesis you can get little changes but not species changes is gone.
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Basically, to paraphrase the old sweaty saying...

The small stuff is fact... It's all small stuff.
 
flume said:
It is in the religion forum, started by Jesus_Freak: "The Bible is 100% true and to be read literally". He started it when we asked that this topic here be reserved for science.
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Really? And this has been going on for a while, has it?
 
Jeff Corey said:
Bob Dylan song here. And I'm glad to to see someone spell non sequitur correctly.
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From memory

Well, God said to Abraham, 'Kill me your son.'

Abe said, 'Man, you must be puttin' me on.

God said, 'No.', Abe said 'What?'

God said, 'You can do what you want Abe, but, the next time you see me comin', you'd better run.'

Abe said, 'Where'd you want this killin' done?'

God said,
 
Quick question: Jesus_Freak, do you believe it is acceptable to lie to people in an effort to bring them to Christ?
 
Eos of the Eons said:
... our nasty gift of free will, and prone to falling to the least bit of temptation ...
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Yes, allright, I admit it, I'm guilty, I'm weak! I'm seeing it now! All that suffering, the loss of Paradise ... it's all been a message to me! I will change. I will be stong. To prove it, tomorrow I won't have that first whisky of the evening - I will resist the temptation! Obviously it's too late for that tonight, but tomorrow, definitely. And I owe it all to jesus-freak and you, Eos. Blessed be.

It'll be easier if I empty the bottle tonight, of course. That way I'm starting the process right now. I've already confessed and admitted the problem. 3/4's of a bottle of Grouse is easy after that.

And the Easter bunny isn't flawed ...
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It just froze in the headlights ... Best we keep that news from the children, I think.
 
aggle-rithm said:
WWCD (What Would Cyanobacteria Do)?
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WDJD is a actually a companion acronym to WWJD. (I know this because I saw the two different acronyms on two different sides of a hot air balloon.)

What Did Cyanobacteria Do? When some wild sinful phagocytizing single-celled organisms took the Cyanobacteria into their hearts they were born again as peaceful photosynthesizing lifeforms living in the light - ultimately the lilies of the field.

(note: do not take this literally.)

(JF, if you're still reading, did you learn about the concept that some of the organelles in our cells (and in the cells of other organisms, like plants) are thought to be the remnants of ancient bacteria?)
 
flume said:
(JF, if you're still reading, did you learn about the concept that some of the organelles in our cells (and in the cells of other organisms, like plants) are thought to be the remnants of ancient bacteria?)
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That reminds me of a questions that's been stuck in my head for a while now. Does any one know if chlorophyll-containing cells were the precursors to the light sensitive patches that preceded eyes? I mean, chlorophyll takes light and converts into sugars (ok, the process has GOT to be way more complex, but I'm just a biomech, not a botanist), it makes sense to me that it would be a precursor.

I could be wrong.

In fact, I'd lay money that I am.

I mean, if a bacteria can become our mitochondria, and transposers are thought to be virsuses that have taken up residence, then couldn't it happen?

I guess that our eyes don't use chlorophyll would be a major argument against this little theory of mine, but weirder things have happened than just me being right.
 
flume said:
(JF, if you're still reading, did you learn about the concept that some of the organelles in our cells (and in the cells of other organisms, like plants) are thought to be the remnants of ancient bacteria?)
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Yuck!

For some reason, I feel like I need to take a shower.
 
kmortis said:
That reminds me of a questions that's been stuck in my head for a while now. Does any one know if chlorophyll-containing cells were the precursors to the light sensitive patches that preceded eyes? I mean, chlorophyll takes light and converts into sugars (ok, the process has GOT to be way more complex, but I'm just a biomech, not a botanist), it makes sense to me that it would be a precursor.

I could be wrong.

In fact, I'd lay money that I am.

I mean, if a bacteria can become our mitochondria, and transposers are thought to be virsuses that have taken up residence, then couldn't it happen?

I guess that our eyes don't use chlorophyll would be a major argument against this little theory of mine, but weirder things have happened than just me being right.
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It could be one of those cases where two similar things (in this case, sensitivity to light) evolved independently, because the function is just so darned useful.
 
aggle-rithm said:
It could be one of those cases where two similar things (in this case, sensitivity to light) evolved independently, because the function is just so darned useful.
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Yeah, that was the other theory that I keep coming back to. I just think it'd be neat for eyes to have evolved from chlorophyll.
 
Eos of the Eons;2298210<SNIP> Yet said:
Hey, I know someone that is "a son in some young girl's body". Pretty good work, but not from a rib or any dirt, but some good ol' Amurican medical know how.

Never understood why the ol' guy had to kill his son in order to forgive us for whatever he thought he needed to forgive us for...

And aren't we supposed to be sheep of His flock or some such nonsense? Sounds like that would fit his expectations better than being a sibling.

Baaa, baaa, baaa....
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