thaiboxerken
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Wrong, both sides cannot be right at the same time. Either your bible is the work of a god, or it's not. Either it has contradictions, or it doesn't.
The Bible is 100% true and to be read literally
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Although, strangely science completely disagrees
How do you immerse something tangible in something entirely insubstantial?
Why?
Answer the questions.
Only if that prayer requests divine intervention to suspend the normal functioning rules of the universe.
We are talking about the creator of the universe?
Are you saying that he doesn't have the powers or that you know for sure that he can't?
He says that he can that's the reason he is God.
Yes sir!
In the case of electromagnetic waves (gamma rays, x-rays, radio waves, heat, and light of various wavelengths), Maxwell found that the aether possessed an electric-field scaling parameter, called "dielectric permittivity," and a magnetic-field scaling parameter, called magnetic permeability, such that the velocity of light was equal to one over the square root of permeability times permittivity. In support of the notion that the aether was a real medium it was observed that empty space behaved like a transmission line with a "characteristic impedance" of 377 ohms, (which is the ratio of permeability to permittivity for "free space.")
Maxwell's equations also explained how light slows down in glass, in gases, in water--because media other than the vacuum have differing permeabilities and permittivities. The aether was once again thought of as a very real medium which could be stretched or compressed--it had resilience or compliance, and inertia. Yet no known physical substance had a stiffness to mass density ratio anywhere near 9 x 1016 which was required of the aether as a medium. The aether appeared to possess elasticity but negligible inertia.
The idea that some kind of aether medium existed prevailed until 1887 when Michelson and Morley an interferometer in an attempt to detect the relative motion of the earth and the aether--the aether must be viscous and should be dragged along at least partially with the earth. According to 19th Century preconceptions, the velocity of the earth going around the sun should be about 30 km/sec. Yet when the measurements were made no motion of the earth relative to the ether could be detected at all. In other words, the aether apparently did not exist. Until Einstein's Theory of Relativity was published in 1905 the negative result of the M-M experiment baffled scientists.
Einstein showed that the velocity of light has the same value in all reference frames, whatever their velocity may be relative to other frames. From this point modern physics took off in the direction of Special and General Relatively Theory, and Quantum Mechanics. For many scientists the notion that an actual aether medium existed was simply discarded. Yet the apparent non-existence of an aether raised many problems---the M-M experiment was not the end of the story.
If all the air molecules are pumped out of a chamber, the chamber still contains residual radiation (electromagnetic noise from stars, x-rays, and heat radiation). Even before quantum mechanics, it was shown by classical radiation theory that if the temperature of the container is lowered to absolute zero, there remains a residual amount of thermal energy that can not by any means be removed. This residual energy in an empty container at absolute zero, was named "zero-point ZPE.
Read the link.
Why not, the only thing your wrong about is that it means nothing, and it's all a lie.
Believers know because they have made the leap of faith and have been shown what's important and relivent to us now.
That's where we part.
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Isn't that the elegance of science? Hypothesis which leads to prediction which leads confirmation or rejection of the hypothesis which can lead to revised hypotheses. Science, by design, is built to incorporate new knowledge and correct prior misconceptions.
Hmmm, now what can we say about a belief system based on a 2,000 year-old self-contradictory text now frozen in time?
thaiboxerken
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The bible is a book of mythology.
Believers don't KNOW anything, they simply believe. That's where we part. A skeptic looks for evidence and will change mind based on evidence. A believer, however, is closed off from facts and evidence because they have "the truth."
The bible cannot be infallible and have contradictions as well. That is a logical fact.
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Assertion based on nothing.
Except when they don't, which is puzzling. Fortunately that only tends to inspire more questing.
Best not to assume anything. The universe has repeatedly shown us that physical reality is far stranger than most of us have imagined. Glorious photos of bizarre things in the universe brought to you courtesy of HST... a scientific instrument.
Too bad it doesn't always work out that way. Don't paint science with too broad a brush.
Recorded and promulgated only in the physical universe. Ink is particles in suspension which dry on paper. Information has a physical medium.
Meaning also that it may have ZERO OBSERVABLE EFFECT on the physical world. (bolding: mine)
You're right about that.
That's your opinion, it's a matter of faith not science.
No, I'm saying it's not a miracle unless a divine being suspends the laws of nature; merely answering your prayers doesn't count.
I say lot's of things, doesn't make me god or them true.
If that's a response to my exhortation to answer the questions, I was referring to the ones previously asked by myself and others.
An example of scientists acquiring knowledge and revising their opinions accordingly.
Dolphin certainly is a man with a silly name... and a poor physicist:
CapelDodger
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What's to prefer? How does one differentiate between that and "The devils greatest lie was to convince man that he doesn't exist"? Gods, devils, lies, and tricks are all human inventions. You might as well prefer a Harry Potter spell to one of Saruman's.
Now you're just being silly.
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But I can make a leap of faith to believe that Muhammad was God's final prophet, sent to correct all the prior misrepresentations of his word. Or I can make a leap of faith to believe in the Hindu pantheon, or Wotan, or the Aten, or Huitzilipotchli. How is your leap of faith to be differentiated from the faith of those who worship gods other than your own?
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Blasphemer! Saruman would totally kick Harry Potter's arse!
Saint Paul library does not have what I was looking for. Tomorrow I will head to Minneapolis.
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There is, if you will note, something of a logical paradox in that statement.
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How do you know if it is or isn't? With what accuracy?