"Evolution isn't science"

Skeptic Guy said:
Why, if God is such a benevolent being, would he require his "son" to die for our "sins"?
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According to Christianity, God bacame man, then committed suicide, in order to save his own creation from his own wrath.

Rather the long way around, isn't it?
 
jesus_freak said:
That must have taken a long time...good thing we got billions of years to fall back on
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In fact, we do. Humans inherited sexual reproduction from the same place all other sexually reproducing creatures did: that is, the common ancestor that "invented" sex (I know, I know--I'm simplifying). That ancestors almost certainly lived at least a billion years ago.
 
jesus_freak said:
lol I am sorry he said that...
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JF, are you basically denying that Darwin used a rhetorical device when he was talking about the incredulity of the construction of the eye by evolution - even though he clearly goes on to explain how it could work?

What do you hope to gain from such dishonesty? Are you trying to look like a complete fool or what?
 
According to Christianity, God bacame man, then committed suicide, in order to save his own creation from his own wrath.

Rather the long way around, isn't it?
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Committed suicide? what Bible verse is that?
 
JF, are you basically denying that Darwin used a rhetorical device when he was talking about the incredulity of the construction of the eye by evolution - even though he clearly goes on to explain how it could work?
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OK that one was taken out of context...sorry...How about the other?
 
jesus_freak said:
Committed suicide? what Bible verse is that?
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Well, according to Christianity, Jesus was God. Also, according to the bible, his (His?) crucifixion was part of God's plan from all eternity. So Jesus planned from the start to get himself crucified. I'd say that's suicide, wouldn't you?
 
jesus_freak said:
lol I am sorry he said that...how about this one?
"Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may have devoted myself to a fantasy"
Charles Darwin, Life and Letters, 1887 Vol. 2, P.229
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How many times are you meant to say sorry to the man who does wrong by you? Nice easy one for you JF - it's in the bible

You misquoted Darwin to try to prove a point - you should say sorry - it's what Jesus expects from you.
 
You seemed to have worked admirably on the species question; there could not have been a better plan than reading up on the opposite side. I rejoice profoundly that you intend admitting the doctrine of modification in your new edition;* nothing, I am convinced, could be more important for its success. I honour you most sincerely. To have maintained in the position of a master, one [Page 25] side of a question for thirty years, and then deliberately give it up, is a fact to which I much doubt whether the records of science offer a parallel. For myself, also, I rejoice profoundly; for, thinking of so many cases of men pursuing an illusion for years, often and often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may not have devoted my life to a phantasy. Now I look at it as morally impossible that investigators of truth, like you and Hooker, can be wholly wrong, and therefore I rest in peace. Thank you for criticisms, which, if there be a second edition, I will attend to. I have been thinking that if I am much execrated as an atheist, etc., whether the admission of the doctrine of natural selection could injure your works; but I hope and think not, for as far as I can remember, the virulence of bigotry is expended on the first offender, and those who adopt his views are only pitied as deluded, by the wise and cheerful bigots.
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Just who the hell do you think you are going to fool JF?
 
"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact." (Dr. T.N. Tahmisian. Atomic Energy Commission, The Fresno Bee, August 20, 1959
 
"A five million year old piece of bone that was thought to be the collarbone of a humanlike creature is actually part of a dolphin rib...The problem with a lot of anthropologists is that they want so much to find a hominid that any scrap of bone becomes a hominid bone." (Dr. Tim White, anthropologist, University of California, Berkeley, quoted in New Scientist, April 28, 1983.
 
jesus_freak said:
I'm affraid not!
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I have just demonstrated otherwise.

*Sigh*

"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact." (Dr. T.N. Tahmisian. Atomic Energy Commission, The Fresno Bee, August 20, 1959
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Not withstanding that the words of a man involved in atomic energy from the 50s seems somewhat irrelevant science is not a matter of a battle of quotes.

There are far more scientists that accept evolution than do not.

You will lose such a battle. Do not waste your time.
 
"Scientist concede that their most cherished theories are based on embarrassingly few fossil fragments and that huge gaps exist in the fossil record."
Time magazin, Nov. 7, 1977
 
jesus_freak said:
lol I am sorry he said that...how about this one?
"Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may have devoted myself to a fantasy"
Charles Darwin, Life and Letters, 1887 Vol. 2, P.229
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Great thing about science... it doesn't matter if even the author of the idea believes in the evidence.

Of course, if someone were to say "all that stuff about Moses in Egypt is bunk" then where does that leave Jesus?
 
jesus_freak said:
Is it an evolutionary miracle that that give or take a few percentage points humans reproduce at a 50% male to female ratio. How does evolution know to do something like this? Let me guess over a long period of time it figured it out for its self?
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Get back under your bridge; the Third Billy Goat wants to meet you.

I bet you are just as amazed by some one tossing a shiny coin, aren't you?

:boggled:
 
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