The Loose Change forum

orphia nay said:
Of the 24 posts I made before being banned last week, 10 remain.
That's 58% deleted.
Of the 10 that remain, 2 of them were in a thread that was moved to the Ready Room.
So that's 66.6% of posts gone from public view.
Man, they must really love The Truth.
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But they told me that Truth was supposed to be 99 and 44/100ths percent PURE!

And now we're down to a third?

We should all pitch in and send LCF a huge drain plug to stop that Truth from escaping! Quick! Before it's all gone!!!
 
uk_dave said:
I get the feeling that the bannings and thread deletions are less to do with dylans own sensitivities than with an attempt to keep a clean house so that the money men behind LC:FC don't get nervous about the crap posted there, and the newbies which should be (but apparently are not) flocking to that site after the Hustler ...... erm....maybe not.... well, who might be flocking there after the RTE screening of LC:2E don't see the forum in all it's messy glory.
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Well, they (the LooseChangeLooseWithTheTruth boyz and their forumites) are tinhatters, don't forget. The vast majority of them are completely incapable of thinking rationally, critically or analytically.

Much like a hammer sees every problem as a nail, they see every post that might even potentially, theoretically, possibly, maybe kinda sorta, diverge from their cult-speak, or that might potentially, theoretically, possibly, maybe kinda sorta, be viewed as questioning the greatness and omnipotence of their loser "leader of the pack" as a bannable offence.

Do-over is still too stupid and too immature to stop himself from putting his foot in his mouth every time he posts on the Loose Change (LooseWithTheTruth) forum, but then gets all riled up in his typical juvenile fashion when he doesn't receive the 100% devotion and genuflecting reaction that he craves, and just bans anyone who doesn't grovel sufficiently.

Then, when it sinks in to his thick skull how petty and juvenile his posts are, how petty and juvenile his reactions are, and how petty and juvenile his actions will appear to those he is currently trying to impress, he deletes the evidence of his own ineptitude, pettiness, and juvenile tendencies.

EDITED to quote the post I was responding to, as I messed up and didn't hit the "quote" button the first time. Edited again to clarify the "they" I was referring to in the first sentence.
 
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LashL said:
Well, they (the LooseChangeLooseWithTheTruth boyz and their forumites) are tinhatters, don't forget. The vast majority of them are completely incapable of thinking rationally, critically or analytically.

Much like a hammer sees every problem as a nail, they see every post that might even potentially, theoretically, possibly, maybe kinda sorta, diverge from their cult-speak, or that might potentially, theoretically, possibly, maybe kinda sorta, be viewed as questioning the greatness and omnipotence of their loser "leader of the pack" as a bannable offence.

Do-over is still too stupid and too immature to stop himself from putting his foot in his mouth every time he posts on the Loose Change (LooseWithTheTruth) forum, but then gets all riled up in his typical juvenile fashion when he doesn't receive the 100% devotion and genuflecting reaction that he craves, and just bans anyone who doesn't grovel sufficiently.

Then, when it sinks in to his thick skull how petty and juvenile his posts are, how petty and juvenile his reactions are, and how petty and juvenile his actions will appear to those he is currently trying to impress, he deletes the evidence of his own ineptitude, pettiness, and juvenile tendencies.

EDITED to quote the post I was responding to, as I messed up and didn't hit the "quote" button the first time. Edited again to clarify the "they" I was referring to in the first sentence.
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Nominated. Brilliant post, Brilliant deductions and a Brilliant "calling out" of the twoofer's overall mentality. I only wish that they (twoof revolutionaries) could just soak in one moment of what they are and critic themselves rationally. Unfortunately...that remains my wish. I was once a CT...long before I understood the power of critical thinking and the relevance of actual evidence to support my thoughts. I was utterly changed by this forum. I'm glad I saw the light. Thanks TAM.
 
orphia nay said:
Of the 24 posts I made before being banned last week, 10 remain.
That's 58% deleted.
Of the 10 that remain, 2 of them were in a thread that was moved to the Ready Room.
So that's 66.6% of posts gone from public view.
Man, they must really love The Truth.
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Before I was banned over there (I was 'A Very Sly Denial'), I noticed a few of my posts dissappear, too.

Dylan had referenced Korey's comment that errors were intentionally left in LC2. I responded by asking if errors were, in fact, left in on purpose. The entire thread disappeared. I then started a thread to ask the question. Once again the thread dissappeared. I finally asked a third time in a thread that Dylan was posting in. Finally Dylan responded by saying that errors were NOT intentionally left in.

So... Either

A ) Dylan is lying and Korey was telling the truth

or

B ) Korey was lying and Dylan is telling the truth.

Any way you slice it, one of the Loose Change crew was/is lying. It's no wonder that my question was continually deleted. I'm not sure why he finally answered it... maybe it was becoming obvious to others that he was running away from questions.
 
This was posted in the Skeptics Area over on the LC forum:

pdoherty76 said:
I am often told by skeptics, such as JREFers, that the NIST report must be sound because the structural engineering population of the entire world have not challenged it.

My question is: How can they challenge it when NIST have NOT released their computer simulations?
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And then later:

pdoherty76 said:
Isnt it quiet in here. It seems the skeptics dont like difficult questions
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Someone might want to explain to him that the reason it's so quiet is because almost all of the skeptics have been systematically cleaned out of the LC forum.

And for the record, the question isn't even remotely difficult. It is, however, flawed. It doesn't take into account the following:

1) If NIST's computer simulation models were the sole resource for studying the WTC collapse, then how did all the those structural engineers and other qualified experts manage to research their published papers (you know, the ones that disprove the CT)?

2) Why has there been no outcry in the structural engineer community about lack of access to this information?

3) Why would a structural engineer need to see a computer simulation to determine what every CTer claims is blatantly obvious?

I'd post this response on the LC forum, but of course, I was banned.
 
johnny karate said:
This was posted in the Skeptics Area over on the LC forum:

And then later:

Someone might want to explain to him that the reason it's so quiet is because almost all of the skeptics have been systematically cleaned out of the LC forum.

And for the record, the question isn't even remotely difficult. It is, however, flawed. It doesn't take into account the following:

1) If NIST's computer simulation models were the sole resource for studying the WTC collapse, then how did all the those structural engineers and other qualified experts manage to research their published papers (you know, the ones that disprove the CT)?

2) Why has there been no outcry in the structural engineer community about lack of access to this information?

3) Why would a structural engineer need to see a computer simulation to determine what every CTer claims is blatantly obvious?

I'd post this response on the LC forum, but of course, I was banned.
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Gah ! :D
Stop snivelling !
Find yourself a proxy and get at 'em ! (if you can bear it) - or have you already? And this is your cover?.... oooops
:duck:
:catfight:
 
I see that the people at LC don't mind admiring ads, which just HAVE to be put in by the government since they have to distract us from all the crimes that the government committed that day! I made a thread there before my time there was terminated about whether they use Facebook or MySpace, and a couple of members kind of ganged up on me and said that the government created these two as well as the entire media, the notion of school and other things to distract us. Now, they talk about the hot girls you see in the ads on their forum :rolleyes:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2916
 
I don't think this deserves an own Thread, but I have to tell you this. I just debated a Truther in a german Forum for the first time. A textbook example of a Truther. Refering to Nonsense like like the "pull it" quote and blaming the jooooos. You think you made a good point, but he is totally stuck to his believes and comes up with more and more stuff, ignoring the things you just said. It is true, the dumber the CT, the more intelligent he thinks he is. This is so frustrating, I wonder how you guys can do this over and over again :D
 
Another one new to the forum, so apologies if this has been raised before. The term conspiracy theorists worries me. Relativity and gravity are theories. Even some of the more esoteric social science theories have a degree of schlorship, research and rationality about them. Raising the myriad and often contradictory beliefs of those on the LC forum to "theories" give them status they dont deserve and imply they are really debatable - and I haven't seen a proper debate on that forum.

What we have here are religious-like dogmatists, so CDs????
 
lionking said:
Another one new to the forum, so apologies if this has been raised before. The term conspiracy theorists worries me. Relativity and gravity are theories. Even some of the more esoteric social science theories have a degree of schlorship, research and rationality about them. Raising the myriad and often contradictory beliefs of those on the LC forum to "theories" give them status they dont deserve and imply they are really debatable - and I haven't seen a proper debate on that forum.

What we have here are religious-like dogmatists, so CDs????
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Hello Lionking, welcome to the forum.

Indeed, some have raised that point as well. To my knowledge, a theory is a tested hypothesis (but I may be wrong about this). Subsequently, some here call them Conspiracy fantasists, or something similar.
 
beachnut said:
He censors his own posting then he deletes the whole thread.

I would be really upset if he edited out my support of his film in a paper!

Why did he cover up his film backers? Then he had to delete the whole thread!?

Maybe he had to ban himself for saying nice stuff about others.

He is the "truth NAZI"; then Dylan orders everyone else to get back to kowtowing...
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He's covering up the names of his Executive Producers since they are both Jewish. There was already one poster on that thread worrying about the influence of "international bankers" on Loose Change.

Dylan is treading a difficult line: he doesn't want to take a stand against the truthers who blame the Jooos because he needs the support of the movement to promote Loose Change. He also doesn't want them to know he's working with Jooos. Equally, if his Executive Producers should get wind of just how anti-semitic parts of the "Truth Movement" are they may well withdraw their support (actually I'd expect most producers who became aware of this to pull it - but for a Jewish producer the opinions of some truthers on the "Zionist plot" would be particularly galling).

I think this gives some context to a post from Russell in the "Why won't Dylan/LC ban Nazis?" thread.

Russell Pickering said:
The situation has been investigated and resolved.

The explanation given to me for the phrase and the flag background was that nationalism is not bad just because of abuses by certain nations in the past. Many countries are nationalistic and I agree with this. I do not agree with Nazism or any ism that kills people including our own.

Even though the authors quoted have other references to different topics the quotes were not supporting Nazism.

I found no Invision violations. The person responded forthrightly and openly to us.

I was going to let it stand but Dylan became aware of the controversy and decided the thread should be gone.
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(emphasis mine)

If I was in the business of disrupting Dylan's life, I'd suggest that people keep making posts about Zionism, Israel and Silverstein on the LC board.
 
The Silver Shadow said:
Remember, most of them are still children. They think that they can change the world with their flawed logic. Dylan just harbours that childlike state of mind because he can see himself gaining "respect" from the others who have a childlike state of mind. Mind you, the real kids who happen to be the preteens and early teens, who are dying to be rebellious, they're smart, they just have their brains in the wrong area and eventually, they will see the logic and feel betrayed by Dylan. The movement will collapse in due time, just do what we're currently doing...
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There's a "How old are you?" thread here:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1853
 
lionking said:
Another one new to the forum, so apologies if this has been raised before. The term conspiracy theorists worries me. Relativity and gravity are theories. Even some of the more esoteric social science theories have a degree of schlorship, research and rationality about them. Raising the myriad and often contradictory beliefs of those on the LC forum to "theories" give them status they dont deserve and imply they are really debatable - and I haven't seen a proper debate on that forum.

What we have here are religious-like dogmatists, so CDs????
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Yep, you've gotten it pretty much correct.

Theory

Most people use the word theory to mean uncertainty, guesswork, or a rough idea, but in science it has a different meaning. A scientific theory explains facts or phenomena that have been shown to be true by repeated independent tests and experiments. An educated guess in science is called a hypothesis.

Scientific theories are not laws, which describe phenomena thought to be invariable. Theories are generally used to describe why certain laws work. For example, the law of gravity is known to be true for falling bodies, but how and why it works is explained by Albert Einstein's general theory of relativity. Einstein's theory was accepted as true only after repeated experimentation and observation. Yet not even laws are absolute. They are rarely overturned, but they may be amended should new data warrant it.

--Maia Weinstock
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I call 'em Conspiracy Fantasists.
 
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