Everybody's got a little CT in them somewhere

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bernit said:
Everyone in the world is a CT in some form or another
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Not trying to call bernit out here, but this is an interesting statement that might be fun to delve into.

On the surface, this seems no different than saying, "everyone in the world is a little <woo> in some form or another". I don't know that I agree with that statement, but I'm not yet ready to say that it is flat out wrong.
 
bernit, since you brought about this thread, how about explaining why you think this is true?
 
I guess it depends on where you draw the line between being suspicious of something, and being a CTist.

There's lots of things I might be suspicious of, but I'm not likely to go off and "find" a lot of "evidence" to "support" my position.

For instance, I was listening to the radio on the way to work this morning, and they were talking about some City politics, in which the newly elected sort-of right wing mayor is having problems with the incumbent sort-of left wing city counsellors, in that they're trying to screw up his "0% tax increase" promises. There are some people who are thinking that the counsellors are doing this as part of a plan to try to influence the next provincial election in their favour, by making the conservatives who support the new mayor look ineffectual. Could be true, might not be.

But if I consider this all to be a possibility, am I being a CTist? How about if I think they're all doing it just to pork up their budgets for the next few years?
 
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Not trying to call bernit out here, but this is an interesting statement that might be fun to delve into.

On the surface, this seems no different than saying, "everyone in the world is a little <woo> in some form or another". I don't know that I agree with that statement, but I'm not yet ready to say that it is flat out wrong.
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Myself, I can be quite superstitous, especially when it comes to sports. I have a "lucky" shirt than I wear for big games and it hasnt failed me this year(knock on wood), thus reinforcing my woowoo-ness in this matter.
Many of my friends have also remarked to me that they find me to be incredibly lucky(I am!), and I've even been nicknamed accordingly - so thats a negative reinforement for my superstitions.

I also used to believe in ghosts and I still get somewhat spooked easily by strange noises and even will get that sense of being cold all of the sudden. I'll even look over my shoulder to make sure that nothing is there. I guess that's not so much woo as it is human nature.

No woo follows...

C'mon guys, fess up. :D
 
I'll be brave. I think Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, but I'm not SURE he wasn't a stooge for some other organization.

I think it's more than likely that there is extraterrestrial life and that some of them have arrived at the level of achieving space travel, although I agree that visits to Earth are pretty clearly debunked.

I have to have tamales and black-eyed peas on New Year's Day.
 
I used to spend a lot of time in the politics forum. While it may not fit the strictest definitions of CT or woo, even in a "skeptical" forum, political beliefs are held with religious fervor and there is plenty of suggestions that organizations and "other guys" are in cahoots against "your guys", all supported with the same level of evidence as our CTist friends here.
 
To me, the 2000 presidential election seemed a little suspicious. I can't really bring myself to say that it was rigged or bought by GWB...but I'm open to that belief.

As a kid I loved reading about the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot...but I was about 9 when I gave that up.

Lastly, I swear I've seen a UFO...but...I was also drinking that night. :wackyerr:
 
I'm sorry, I'm going to be very boring and state categorically that I do not believe in anything, no woo, nothing.

I'm that shallow.

That's according to the pixies living on that large toadstool at the bottom of my garden anyway. I just can't wait for that alien ship to come back and scoop them up, then maybe the ghosts of the monks who used to live in the old abbey nearby will stop keeping me awake at night and allow me to dream of where the gold is hidden so I don't have to read palms for a living anymore.

God willing.
 
For me, the distinction is between pattern recognition and/or suspicion; and acting on it without having taken said thoughts and examined them in a more critical manner.
 
Elizabeth I said:
I'll be brave. I think Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, but I'm not SURE he wasn't a stooge for some other organization.
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I have a problem with imagining the CIA, Mafia or whoever trusting a loose cannon like LHO to do their dirty work. And wouldn't they have had some tame cop standing by to catch him in the act ready ti shoot him dead in the book depository, in the sniper nest, holding the rifle? Preferably with a witness?

That would have tidied up a lot of loose ends.
 
I have to agree that I have a bit of Woo-ness when it comes to sports. (ie I see ever bad call made against my team but scoff at anything short of a mugging that goes for the other team.)

Also, there are times I could almost swear that there are ghosts and the cats can see them. They just sit their tracking something across the room and I can never see what it is.:eye-poppi

ETA: Oh yeah I also believe in aliens and some sort of supreme being.

With the aliens I figure that just wth the size of the universe there has to be someting out there. I've heard of an equation (Drake IIRC) that speaks to that but I'm not sure if that was an actual equation or sometihng made up by a Sci-fi writer.

Ar far as the supreme being, No set religion just that something is out there... watching us... laughing when we loose our keys.
 
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Redtail said:
Also, there are times I could almost swear that there are ghosts and the cats can see them. They just sit their tracking something across the room and I can never see what it is.:eye-poppi
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They're just messing with your head........


...or you have spiders.
 
Redtail said:
I have to agree that I have a bit of Woo-ness when it comes to sports. (ie I see ever bad call made against my team but scoff at anything short of a mugging that goes for the other team.)
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Confirmational bias

Redtail said:
Also, there are times I could almost swear that there are ghosts and the cats can see them. They just sit their tracking something across the room and I can never see what it is.:eye-poppi
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That's just the cat fragging with you.
 
I just think most people want to believe that someone is in charge of the world. When things happen that no one could have predicted - we want to know that it was designed somehow.

I can never say that anything is or isn't a CT. I just trust in the innate ability for people not being able to keep secrets to somehow come out some time. Otherwise - it really doesn't affect me.

Scottch
 
Anybody with a human brain is susceptible to woo. There are little pockets of woo in everyone's life - little woo-bunnies that hide under the furniture of your mind, just looking for a pancake.
 
Elizabeth I said:
I'll be brave. I think Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, but I'm not SURE he wasn't a stooge for some other organization.
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Big Al said:
I have a problem with imagining the CIA, Mafia or whoever trusting a loose cannon like LHO to do their dirty work. And wouldn't they have had some tame cop standing by to catch him in the act ready ti shoot him dead in the book depository, in the sniper nest, holding the rifle? Preferably with a witness?

That would have tidied up a lot of loose ends.
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That's why I'm not SURE. :D
 
Well, I can't think of something offhand, but it seems to me that I often have trouble believing conspiracies that eventially have been proved. Like, I remember scoffing at the whole CIA-putting-exploding-cigars-in-Fidel's-way conspiracy. It sounded right out of a Peter Sellers movie. And surprise!!!

So although I don't give a hoot for the 9-11 conspiracy theories, I am still open to the smaller poison-umbrella-tip caper and to the conspiracy of the tobacco companies putting more nicotine into the cigs than they led on....
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