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Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

Hi Guys--I have posted the links to Big Les- I hope they work. You will need a valium sandwhich before you a re finished! We have masses of saved stuff on these lines--not to mentions plenty of funny pictures! But much of it is going down the same road, as you seem to be doing and the vampire lady who first set the subject off! We aren't sure whether he is truly bonkers and cant help it or is just being a naughty boy and a cting like a spoilt child if he doesnt get his own way all the time ! There are loads of these Old Catholic bishops around but he is the one whose credentials are in doubt because he wont tell us about his church services for starters, and he hasnt a boss, he's a sort of one man band"autocepahlous", not to mention the Highgate--and Kirklees---vampire stories ----anyway, read on!

barbara and catherine
 
Thanks for the links Barbara and Catherine; I must say it's all a bit bewildering! For now I'll just repost them here for you while I have a good look through myself. I will say that I was highly tickled by the idea of Manchester producing a Princess Diana tribute song!

Here are the links as provided to me (note that the second two require membership):

http://groups.msn.com/TheGreatHighgateHoax

http://groups.msn.com/TheEnigmaofTheOldCatholicChurch

http://groups.msn.com/LordSeanManchester

http://groups.msn.com/bossybishopsandnaughtynuns

Manchester's actual ecclesiastical affiliations are unclear from what I've read thus far, but he seems to have his own church.

Wow.
 
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Hrm, this Manchester reminds me of Killtown from LCF. I don't think they're the same person, but very similar mentalities it seems.
 
Hi Big Les

Thank you so much for posting our links on for us. I'm sure that they will be a source of amusement for your readers. We have found the board highly interesting.

I would like to point out that Vampire406 has no hidden agenda in joining our David Farrant Highgate Forum why should she have? However we will support her as much as we possibly can as we are well aware of what Manchester is like and she can also post as much as she wants on our forums. The only thing we ask is that no proper names are mentioned as he [Manchester] would only try and get us shut down. That is in the groups that are not private. Obviously Private groups go ahead and post away whatever you want because he has not got access to these. If anyone else is interested then please do join, the more the merrier.

On another note The Independent Catholic Alliance who recently gave support to the Ad Clerum [just google in] have taken their names of the document and renounced all support to Manchester which is great news. Manchester has linked up to the one and only person who is supporting him. Nobody else even recognizes him as a bishop. Not even the highest authority of the Roman Catholic Church in England recognise him as being valid.

Catherine and Barbara
 

To clarify RE:

The Church that dare not speak its name.

The British Old Catholic Church and its clergy (comprising of one bishop---Manchester !) is only recognised by one Old Catholic Church of another branch--so what they think does not matter anyway. This is the The Independent Old Catholic Church of the Utretch Succession.


The INDEPENDENT OLD CATHOLIC CHURCH DO NOT RECOGNISE HIM, NEITHER DOES THE OLD CATHOLIC CHURCH OF THE UNION OF UTRETCH,
NEITHER DO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC OR ANGLICAN CHURCH ACCORDING TO THE OPINION OF REPRESENTIVES OF THEIR SENIOR CLERGY.


(Quick summary--its VERY complicated as they all have similar names--it took us quite a long to time sort it all out! We have letter and e mails to verify everything above.)
Also we have never been able to pin M down about his church services and pastoral ministry--other than he owns three big swanky cars for his "ministry" -----one for emergencies(????an outbreak of vampires!!) one for "rough terrain " (???) and one for personal use!!!!!!!!!!



B and C
 
Catherine and Barbara - welcome to the forum.

The names are very complicated, indeed. However, in just a short time the majority of Old Catholic churches have told me the same thing: They have no record of anyone by the name of Sean Manchester. One archdiocese answered with "not even a deacon!" by that name.

The only thing I can find connecting Manchester to an Old Catholic organization is a reference with the IOCCUS. This appears to be a small, fee-for-service church in London with a degree by internet college. I have seen the term "diploma mill" associated with the organization on other websites, but that is opinion.

In the US, Public Records are open to all. Churches claiming tax exemption n must file public financial statements by law. I am unsure of UK laws. Are Public Records open to all in the UK? If so, where do I start?
 
Hi THERE---it could indeed by a tax dodge! Saying you are a church on your tax form, and we did wonder if INLAND REVENUE knew. We found out he was not a regsitered charity but he runs a"retreat house" that is not recorded officially anywhere. The person who "ordained him" is called Bishop Illtyd Thomas of the Celtic Catholic church, but whether HE is valid is another big question mark. You can find him via Google very easily, but the people who are saying Manchester is valid are from the INDEPENDENT OCC of the Utretch Succession, Father John Kersey.
There seems to be loads of these guys around, all "playing" bishops and dressing up---however, no one is really bothered what they do, but it is Manchester who has brought the investigation on his own head by his behaviour over the past 30 years. Before he was promoted to Bishopdom he said he was "Lord" Manchester a descendent of Lord Byron. He says in his autobiogrpahy he was some sort of immaculate conception and his parents only had one child--him--and ahem never ahem you know again, cos he was so "perfect".!!
I ask you, what bunkum. But he has done some really awful things to David Farrant because he was jealous of him over the Highgate Vampire, and to a lesser extent caused me and Catherine a lot of hassle and some danger, mainly cos we have got above our humble stations and begged to disagree with him over certain matters.

let us know if we can help further. It is confusing trying to find out what church manchester belongs to--in a nutshell--his own! We have even written to Cardinal Cormac Murphy o Conner--who aint impressed! s Manchester is always showing this photo that was snapped at Westominster cathedral several years ago of him and the late Cardinal Hume in the same frame, and Manchester is saying thsi proves that they were best friends and Cardinal Hume said he was valid--naturally the cardinal cannot answer for himself, so Manchester can get away with it!

all the best

barbara and catherine
 
oops sorry--just checked the link--you got the right church!!!!!!!!!That is John Kersey, the ones supporting Manchester--though they did say he was causing the whoLER Old Catholic movement a massive headache and it was considered he needed psychiatric help, but they say he is valid! Still whats valid and who are they to decide? Are they valid???

tata
 
The Vampire said:
Catherine and Barbara - welcome to the forum.

The names are very complicated, indeed. However, in just a short time the majority of Old Catholic churches have told me the same thing: They have no record of anyone by the name of Sean Manchester. One archdiocese answered with "not even a deacon!" by that name.

The only thing I can find connecting Manchester to an Old Catholic organization is a reference with the IOCCUS. This appears to be a small, fee-for-service church in London with a degree by internet college. I have seen the term "diploma mill" associated with the organization on other websites, but that is opinion.

In the US, Public Records are open to all. Churches claiming tax exemption n must file public financial statements by law. I am unsure of UK laws. Are Public Records open to all in the UK? If so, where do I start?
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from http://www.johnkersey.org/ministry.html
The Liberal Rite has the status of an excepted charity in England and Wales under the Charities Act 1993.
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Yet I can't find it on the Inland Revenue's website; they have a searchable list of tax-exempt organisations here. There are no "Old Catholic" or "Liberal Rite" church organisations listed, nor does the apparently Clapton-based Cathedral Church of the Good Shepherd appear. Same goes for the UK Charity Commission database. It's also customary to quote your registered charity number when stating that that's what you are, to allow easy verification.

In other, more lighthearted news, Catherine and Barbara have sent these lovely links to some of Manchester's stunning artwork.
 
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Thank you for posting the link Big Les. I also found a book this weekend by Carol Page who wrote a less than flattering chapter on Manchester. It appears Manchester tried to get her to publish faked pictures of his "Highgate Vampire." One picture was a night shot of a policeman with his hat blacked out with a felt tip marker.

This is becoming so cloak and dagger. I guess I should get my fedora and trenchcoat out and put on the Peter Gunn soundtrack while reading all the stuff I've found! :D
 
I've just rediscovered Manchester's main Highgate Vampire webpage:

http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Highgate Vampire Picture.htm

I find it extremely distasteful that these pictures of someone's grandfather, father and/or son have been, and still are used in this way. There must be descendants who might recognise the cinder-block sealed tomb, if not the decomposed body (assuming it's real of course - it looks it).
 
Manchester had a complete blow out of Carol Page--quote by SM If I am remembered for nothing else then I wish to be remembered for being the inventor of the original hand held stake."
Gawd--how else do you hold a stake?
But of course,we have looked into the descendents of the tomb he vandalised or said he vandalised at Highgate--the Wace family--and have found no descendents. All the same it is disrespectful , undignified and illegal to go messing around with peoples coffins--even if you are deluded enough to believe it is a vampire--and this is what he is still advising in his websites,message boards and bookTHE VAMPIRE HUNTERS HANDBOOK!

C AND B
 
Big Les said:
from http://www.johnkersey.org/ministry.html


Yet I can't find it on the Inland Revenue's website; they have a searchable list of tax-exempt organisations here. There are no "Old Catholic" or "Liberal Rite" church organisations listed, nor does the apparently Clapton-based Cathedral Church of the Good Shepherd appear. Same goes for the UK Charity Commission database. It's also customary to quote your registered charity number when stating that that's what you are, to allow easy verification.

In other, more lighthearted news, Catherine and Barbara have sent these lovely links to some of Manchester's stunning artwork.
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I think the self portrait says it all. A psychiatrist would have a field day wit that one.

Big Les said:
I've just rediscovered Manchester's main Highgate Vampire webpage:

http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Highgate%20Vampire%20Picture.htm

I find it extremely distasteful that these pictures of someone's grandfather, father and/or son have been, and still are used in this way. There must be descendants who might recognise the cinder-block sealed tomb, if not the decomposed body (assuming it's real of course - it looks it).
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Though I think I can understand why he would fantasize about "nocturnal visitations" (is that what the kids call it now?) from Lusia!
 
Big Les said:
from http://www.johnkersey.org/ministry.html


Yet I can't find it on the Inland Revenue's website; they have a searchable list of tax-exempt organisations here. There are no "Old Catholic" or "Liberal Rite" church organisations listed, nor does the apparently Clapton-based Cathedral Church of the Good Shepherd appear. Same goes for the UK Charity Commission database. It's also customary to quote your registered charity number when stating that that's what you are, to allow easy verification.

In other, more lighthearted news, Catherine and Barbara have sent these lovely links to some of Manchester's stunning artwork.
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an "exceptied" charity does not need to register with the commission.
neither does a registered place of worship. I need to look into how you become registered place of worship and what that means.
[charity comission said:
An excepted charity is one which does not have to register with us but, in most other respects, is fully within our jurisdiction. Under section 3(5) of the Charities Act 1993, the following charities fall into this category:
(a) any charity which is excepted by order or regulations;
(b) any charity which has neither:
(i) any permanent endowment; nor
(ii) the use or occupation of any land;
and whose annual income from all sources does not amount to more than £1000.
No charity is required to be registered in respect of any registered place of worship.
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It looks like to be a "registered place of worship" you need to bung your local council twenty eight quid, get some local support (20 signatures) and meet some fairly lax fire/ safety standards. this gives you few advantages, but it does mean that you are exempt from Charity Commission registration, but not HM Customs and Excise registration. However you only need to register with HMCE if you want the tax advantages.
Ir looks like this "church" registering is an attempt to gain some legitimacy in the public mind, not to rip off the taxman.
 
Hi folks
Just read your recent postings about Charities etc. From what I remember in the front of Mr. Manchester's Highgate Vampire book it is quite clear that Mr. Manchester is asking for donations to be paid in a Halifax Bank Account here in the UK. He says that the funds are going to be donated to the Church allegedly. If this is so then surely before he can ask for such funds he needs to be a registered charity. All other Churches and retreat houses here in the UK are all registered as far as we are aware of. Also Mr. Manchester set up a fake Memorial Fund when he was fatally wounded in a duel and all of a sudden miraculously nursed back to health by a nun in France. Another fund he set up to try and save Robin Hood's Grave here in West Yorkshire and accused Barbara of pocketing the proceeds which were addressed to HIM in the first place to PO Box 542 Highgate, London. Generally we are thinking that the Old Catholic Movement and Manchester himself are setting up a scam. It is so confusing as to what is what and it really needs someone to research the subject fully.

On another note Mr. Manchester has a retreat house in Bournemouth. We believe that he has not got the proper fire, health and safety regulations. Nor do the Bournemouth Tourist Information know about him much less want to get involved with him. We've also tried the trades description people and they have said that they cannot help and the retreat Society in the United Kingdom have never even heard of him. He is just one great big fake and a liar to boot. Basically he doesn't have a Church, he doesn't have a Ministry, no services and no congretation with the exceptions of his dopey wife and stoneage goofy brother Keith who makes nourishing broth out of magic mushrooms.

Catherine Fearnley and Barbara Green .

We can tell plenty of shenanigans about Mr. Manchester and his miscreants. Mr. Manchester has had his day.
 
You can make a living as a vampire hunter?

Since they don't actually exist (in the toothsome sense anyway - not including lawyers and estate agents) it must be the easisest job out there.

Does it pay well? Where do I apply?
 
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