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Common Sense

LashL said:
I don't lie, 28th. You, on the other hand, are a notorious and proven liar, and you can't even blame that on your poor reading comprehension skills. You can see the school in the video that you cited in your post and that I also linked to in my response, for crying out loud.

It's right here in YOUR post which I replied to:



http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2247154&postcount=1392

Or are you going to go back and edit it and claim that you didn't write it?

You are now changing your tune because you are referring to an entirely different video, LIAR.
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if you watch the video the off-camera voice doesn say there is a secondary device in the buidling, he says there is a report of a secondary device in the area

i wouldnt chalk this up to dishonesty on 28ths part though, he probably read on some other forum from some other CTer and simply repeated what they said without bothering to check the video himself
 
28th Kingdom said:
Lemme ask you something... do you think brain surgeons care about people? Do you think brain surgeons like to see people with head injuries? Are brain surgeons good people? Do you think if brain surgeons had the power to prevent all future brain/head injuries from happening - with a snap of the fingers... that they would do it, even if it means they would be out of a career that they have devoted over 10 years of schooling to?
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Of course they would. In a heartbeat. Every day they have to see the consequences of all the brain injuries and diseases they can't fix. Some of them would give up more than that.

Even if losing their career means... losing their home/family(wife,kids)/possessions, because they can no longer afford to (payfor/support) them?
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Of course. They can get other work. And that big number "2" at the beginning of the year means wake up, it's the third millennium, you don't lose your family because of a pay cut, unless they were only around for the money, in which case good riddance.

So, if brain surgeons wouldn't stop people from getting brain injuries...
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Wait, are you saying they wouldn't? That they'd let people, people they talk to face to face every day, die horribly and live with crippling injuries in order to save their jobs?

Oh you poor poor guy. What kind of people have you been stuck living with all your life, to think things like that?

Find a new bar to go to, one where the people who you buy rounds for don't insult you behind your back and then find ways of letting you know they did it. Find a new job, where your co-workers don't blackmail you into doing their scutwork and then piss in your lunch pail. Tell that family of yours who would leave you the moment you had to switch to a lower-paying job that slavery's been abolished and they can look for another meal ticket. Get the hell out of whatever benighted hellhole you're in, pronto, and find some better people. They're out there.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
28th Kingdom said:
You are a liar and a gatekeeper. Those firefighters saying, move back that building is about to blow up...or it's blowin... or it's about to blow up....or that building will be coming soon...is NOT ABOUT A SCHOOL. NEITHER IS THE VIDEO...where the firefighter says to clear out there is a bomb in the building... OR WHERE ANOTHER ONE SAYS... there are secondary devices in the building. SECONDARY TO WHAT? HUH? SECONDARY TO WHAT?

You have been exposed as a fraud... - now... be gone from my sight you tyrant.
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There were several bomb scares and gas leak warnings in that area after the tower collapses. How do you know he's not referring to one of those? How do you know he's not simply using a colloquial expression?

Answer, you don't. You'd rather ignore the obvious, rational explanations in order to claim that the FDNY was in on it. That's despicable.

Your posts continue to be a blight on this forum.
 
Brain surgeons are also qualified surgeons in other fields. You can't be a brain surgeon without having a degree that would qualify you for a lot of other medical work. There are other jobs they could enter. Your analogy, 28th, is pretty simplistic and... well, just horrible.

It's the same with firefighters. They wouldn't just keep quiet to save that one job. They could avenge the death of 343 of their brothers. I would lose any job I had for that. If I knew that the buildings were brought down in controlled demolition I wouldn't keep quiet no matter how important my job was.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Lemme ask you something... do you think brain surgeons care about people? Do you think brain surgeons like to see people with head injuries? Are brain surgeons good people? Do you think if brain surgeons had the power to prevent all future brain/head injuries from happening - with a snap of the fingers... that they would do it, even if it means they would be out of a career that they have devoted over 10 years of schooling to? Even if losing their career means... losing their home/family(wife,kids)/possessions, because they can no longer afford to (payfor/support) them? So, if brain surgeons wouldn't stop people from getting brain injuries... does that mean they (brain surgeons) like seeing people suffer just for their own greedy benefit? Does that mean that brain surgeons are these dark figures who get off by preying on others' misfortunes?
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Nominated for most idiotic logical fallacy, ever.
 
So 28th, was it something we said? Tell us, so we can be sure to keep repeating it!
 
defaultdotxbe said:
if you watch the video the off-camera voice doesn say there is a secondary device in the buidling, he says there is a report of a secondary device in the area

i wouldnt chalk this up to dishonesty on 28ths part though, he probably read on some other forum from some other CTer and simply repeated what they said without bothering to check the video himself
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I realize that, defaultdotxbe. But that video is about the Stuyvesant High School and NOT about building 7, as 28th has claimed repeatedly. He was specifically referring to the "there's a bomb in the building" quote and it was the high school they were talking about.

I respectfully disagree with you about not chalking it up to his dishonesty. Reading it on another forum and repeating it without bothering to check it himself, and then calling me a "liar and a gatekeeper" when his error is pointed out to him instead of trying to check it out himself makes him dishonest all by itself. As is his then changing his story in response to my post and trying to pretend that he was talking about a different video (which was, in fact, at building 7 when the firefighter says the building is about to "blow up". Both are acts of dishonesty, in my opinion.

Edit to add: normally, I would not ascribe to malice something that can be easily explained by stupidity (and there has been ample evidence of the latter in his case) but having seen far too many of his denigrating posts, I believe that malice fits in this case.

Edit to further add:
I quit.
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Oh, too late.
 
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LashL said:
I realize that, defaultdotxbe. But that video is about the Stuyvesant High School and NOT about building 7, as 28th has claimed repeatedly. He was specifically referring to the "there's a bomb in the building" quote and it was the high school they were talking about.

I disagree with you about not chalking it up to his dishonesty. Reading it on another forum and repeating it without bothering to check it himself, and then calling me a "liar and a gatekeeper" when his error is pointed out to him instead of trying to check it out himself makes him dishonest all by itself. As is his then changing his story in response to my post and trying to pretend that he was talking about a different video (which was, in fact, at building 7 when the firefighter says the building is about to "blow up". Both are acts of dishonesty, in my opinion.
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I've heard someone say he's a liar. Oh, yeah, that was me, along with a few others.
 
LashL said:
I realize that, defaultdotxbe. But that video is about the Stuyvesant High School and NOT about building 7, as 28th has claimed repeatedly. He was specifically referring to the "there's a bomb in the building" quote and it was the high school they were talking about.

I respectfully disagree with you about not chalking it up to his dishonesty. Reading it on another forum and repeating it without bothering to check it himself, and then calling me a "liar and a gatekeeper" when his error is pointed out to him instead of trying to check it out himself makes him dishonest all by itself. As is his then changing his story in response to my post and trying to pretend that he was talking about a different video (which was, in fact, at building 7 when the firefighter says the building is about to "blow up". Both are acts of dishonesty, in my opinion.

Edit to add: normally, I would not ascribe to malice something that can be easily explained by stupidity (and there has been ample evidence of the latter in his case) but having seen far too many of his denigrating posts, I believe that malice fits in this case.
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well hes definately proved hes dishonest, but i still put this one more toward the stupid/lazy research end of the spectrum, lol (although liek most things its a little from column A a little from column B)
 
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