Bumper sticker. . .(shudder)

[Darth Rotor]

If chaos is deliberate, it does not preclude omnipotence or omniscience, but it certainly precludes omnibenevolence.

I would tend to agree with that, but then maybe I don't get what "omnibenevolence" means. Is that a canonical term in a sect I am not familiar with?

I love my kids. I have occasionally punished them. I realize that is a poor analogue, given my own limitations, but I don't see love and something other than spoiling the object of your affections as inconsistent.

If omnibenevolent means treating the human race a la spoiled and pampered children, that hardly fits with having to make a choice.

DR

 

[vIQleS]

I'm only about 10 pages in, and i don't know if we're still posting bumper stickers or not, but i saw this today that seemed particularly appropriate:

There's a pizza franchise in NZ called Hell Pizza, and they have a bumper stickers that simply reads "I'm going to Hell" with the Hell Pizza logo.

 

[Darth Rotor]

There's a pizza franchise in NZ called Hell Pizza, and they have a bumper stickers that simply reads "I'm going to Hell" with the Hell Pizza logo.

Your bumper sticker is a lot better than at least 20 pages worth of this thread, since it has darned few bumper stickers in it. (I added a few, but my favorite line of my own lately is (from another thread)

"On the internet, no one can hear you think."

DR

 

[Tricky]

Your bumper sticker is a lot better than at least 20 pages worth of this thread, since it has darned few bumper stickers in it. (I added a few, but my favorite line of my own lately is (from another thread)

"On the internet, no one can hear you think."

Of course, the internet forum equivalent of bumperstickers is the sig line. The one for this particular locale is: (In his best Ozzy voice)
"I'm goin' off the rails on this crazy thread."

 

[The Atheist]

"Shoot them before they shoot us"?

A long, long time.

Like we say around here; "as long as they're screwing with somebody else, they're leaving me alone."

It's like the Islamic terrorists. They aren't flying airplanes into buildings in Palmer, Alaska.

If y'all are the ones pissing them off, they're your problem, not mine.

You got a mouse in your pocket?

Push away. Just don't look to me for backup.

Ok, fair attitude, but I'm a little surprised you don't look to be a bit more active.

There's an old story which springs to mind. It goes something like this:

They came to take the Jews and I said nothing; I am not a Jew.

They came to take the Poles and I said nothing; I am not Polish.

They came to take the Socialists and I said nothing; I am not a Socialist.

They came to take me and there was nobody left to speak for me.

 

[The Atheist]

"On the internet, no one can hear you think."

DR

Shouldn't that be?

On the internet, thinking isn't essential

 

[Tricky]

Thanks, yeah I can't put up with it anymore. While I don't think he is an intentional troll he virtually is one to me. I've put him on ignore.

Really?

Yes, Huntster, really. At least for now. You see, RandFan is a sensitive soul who craves the interplay of ideas. He wants and gives honest opinions and he wants and gives thoughtful feedback on what he and other posters say to each other. He isn't here just to see who can insult each other better. He is not a flame warrior.

Maybe he doesn't see in you what I do: A spark of intellect. A hint of understanding. A whiff of reason. He is not willing to play the game to draw it out of you. Some people don't like the game. I do. I know it's a game. I'm know never going to insert a new thought into your chromium cranium, but I might win your respect as a worthy opponant. For some, that isn't enough, but for me, that's just fine. I never had any illusions about being a driving force for sanity in the world. I'm just here for the ride.

Hold tight.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Shouldn't that be?

Well, since my line is a spoof on the old tag line for the movie Alien

"In space, no one can hear you scream"

I had to match the meter to the original. I think you got the message, in any case.

"In a sensory deprivation tank, no one can hear you dream."

DR

 

[The Atheist]

Well, since my line is a spoof on the old tag line for the movie Alien

"In space, no one can hear you scream"

I thought the tag from those special effects was:

"In space, no on can hear you throw up"

 

[Paulhoff]

Maybe he doesn't see in you what I do: A spark of intellect. A hint of understanding. A whiff of reason.

I think you are being very generous.

Paul

 

[RandFan]

Yes, Huntster, really. At least for now. You see, RandFan is a sensitive soul who craves the interplay of ideas.

Ok, ok. You are laying it on a little thick but perhaps I deserve that.

 

[Paulhoff]

I get it, we are living a real life soup opera.

Paul

 

[Tricky]

Ok, ok. You are laying it on a little thick but perhaps I deserve that.

Yes. You're a thick man. You deserve thick praise.

(eta: and no, I don't lisp)

 

[The Atheist]

I get it, we are living a real life soup opera.

Paul

Correct. Man cannot live by bread alone.

 

[Huntster]

Yes, Huntster, really. At least for now.

No guarantees?

You see, RandFan is a sensitive soul who craves the interplay of ideas. He wants and gives honest opinions and he wants and gives thoughtful feedback on what he and other posters say to each other. He isn't here just to see who can insult each other better. He is not a flame warrior.

That wasn't my experience.

Maybe he doesn't see in you what I do: A spark of intellect. A hint of understanding. A whiff of reason.

How flattering.

He is not willing to play the game to draw it out of you.

I didn't like his game. I suppose it's fair that he didn't like mine.

Funny how that works sometimes, huh?

Some people don't like the game. I do. I know it's a game. I'm know never going to insert a new thought into your chromium cranium, but I might win your respect as a worthy opponant.

You might "win" both.

You may already have.

RandFan hasn't.

...I never had any illusions about being a driving force for sanity in the world. I'm just here for the ride.....

I used to, when I was young. Not anymore. I'm just hanging on.

Hold tight.

Well, not too tight. Gotta' be willing to go with the flow sometimes...........

 

[RandFan]

Correct. Man cannot live by bread alone.

"That's why god invented beer". That's what one of my professors was found of saying. That and, "shut up, I can't leave until we get through this and you are cutting into my drinking time". What can I say, the guy liked beer.

 

[fishbob]

"Shoot them before they shoot us"?

Like we say around here; "as long as they're screwing with somebody else, they're leaving me alone."

It's like the Islamic terrorists. They aren't flying airplanes into buildings in Palmer, Alaska.

If y'all are the ones pissing them off, they're your problem, not mine.

Bumper stickers for Palmeroids? or religious principles from the book of Cartman?

 

[BPScooter]

(One of the nicest pieces of poetry in my Western Tradition is the Song of Songs) ***miniature hiding...yes, I'm personally proud of that poem....I belong to the West...even though it was written so long ago by someone so far away...amazing poet wrote that stuff**** non-miniature pride, I'm also proud of T.S. Eliot and Vincent, of Gogh--even though they lived long ago and far away from me.

 

[Ossai]

Huntster

Thanks, yeah I can't put up with it anymore. While I don't think he is an intentional troll he virtually is one to me. I've put him on ignore.

Really?

Considering that RandFan was responding to me and not you, it would appear a true statement.

I don’t even need to reference the previous discussion, you’ve just provided a nice little example that you don’t follow the bible here.

"Follow the bible?"

My Bible is static. It's still laying where I left it.

Does yours travel on it's own?

You must deliberately want to play the imbecile. Keep it up at the rate you are going and you’ll be “goo goo-ing”* in a few weeks.
*baby talk

Since I don't "find" morality in the factory repair manual for my Audi, what good is that?

The Audi repair manual is for a specific purpose, assisting in the repair of an Audi. Of what purpose is the bible if the history it reports is incorrect (the figurative and literal bits are so mixed as to be indistinguishable), it contains no moral messages or instructions (as per you) and what few lessons it does contain you don’t bother to follow?

Why are you so put out when I agree that it is not a manual on morality?

Why do you repeatedly drag this tired game back up?

Could it be because you claim to be a Christian yet you ignore the entire basis of the religion. It would be like someone claiming to have a PhD but with them never having attended a university or even primary school.

Ossai

 

[Garrette]

Let me try this approach:

Manual:



The Bible is not a "manual."

Okay.

It is a collection of books of many types, written by many different individuals, over many different eras, under many different circumstances. For pete's sake, some of these books are obvious prayers or songs.

I agree.

Would you call the lyrics of John Lennon a "manual of morality"?

No.

It is the tribal and religious history of the Israelite/Hebrew/Jewish people,

Agreed, if by "history" you are not implying the historical accuracy of today.

and their struggle to understand their foundation with regard to the God of Abraham.

Partly agree. I would say it is also their struggle to create their foundation in order to homogenize their faith and people.

It is a collection of books written by wise men like Solomon, "Qoheleth", Sirach, and others.

Those are some of the attributions, yes.

It is a collection of some absolutely beautiful poems and songs.

Much of it is beautiful, I agree. More of it is not.

And it is a collection of testimonials regarding Jesus of Nazareth, whom the writers and others have determined was the Messiah prophesized in the Old Testament.

Okay.

It is also a history of the struggles of the first Christians, and some of the letters written between them.

Okay.

But that didn't anser my question which was:

What role does the bible play in your faith?