I will make one last post in this thread and let it die as requested.
I was a construction supervisor and industrial piping designer. I supervised construction projects for steel mills. I was an on site piping designer for the Toole Utah facility I mentioned above. I was part of a damage assessment team for two sites. One was for a company called IMC/Angus in Louisiana and the other was for Shell Chemical in Belpre, Ohio. All I can say is that I've seen some pretty amazing stuff. I've seen steel beams twisted like spaghetti.
I would just like to know a few things.
1. Where is he getting the 3" diameter on 4' centers from?
2. How can he tell that the spire picture, which was taken at 7500 feet away, contained 3" rebar? That's like telling me that he can recognize one of his friends from that distance.
3. I have not seen one picture showing the plywood structure, concrete pouring mechanisms, or the 3" rebar used in construction of the supposed concrete core.
4. It has been stated numerous times that the architect wanted to keep the core light in weight which is why he had the steel beam core encased in Sheetrock, not concrete.
5. In my experience in construction, I've never seen 3" diamater rebar used (not to say that it hasn't, just that I've never seen it). Even the 4' thick walls of the Toole facility, built to contain a possible explosion, didn't use 3" rebar. It used vary closely spaced, smaller diameter rebar. There was so much rebar that I remember standing in front of it before the concrete was poured, and I couldn't see through it.
6. Lastly, I have yet to see a clear picture that shows a piece of the concrete with 3" rebar sticking out of it. You can refer me to the picture taken of what was left of the core with the supposed 3" rebar sticking out of the concrete, but I just don't see it. Those could be pipes. That picture proves nothing. Come to think of it, I have never seen a picture of 3" rebar anywhere. You would think that there would have been a huge pile of it somewhere.
7. How was the concrete poured in place for the core if it was always below the current floor being constructed (a convenient explanation I might add).
Only when the blueprints are produced will we know the truth and can put Christopher's claims to rest. All of his "raw" images that he says proves his claims are all subject to interpretation. What I mean is that there is not one photo that he provides which distinctly proves that the core was concrete with 3" diameter rebar. The spire picture looks like part of the exterior facade to me. The other picture he uses shows what he claims to be 3" rebar. I could be piping. I see no pictures of a plywood structure used to form the core. I see no 3" rebar lying around waiting to be used. I see no pictures of the 3" rebar set in place before the supposed concrete was poured. I see no pictures of a piece of concrete with 3" rebar sticking out of it. I see no account of 3" rebar being scrapped.
All I see are pictures to back up what NIST describes in their paper.
Again, the only way that Chistophera can prove the concrete core existed is with pictures of the blueprints that show it.
I will not post again in this thread as I fear the wrath of the "elder posters". My they have mercy on my soul.
Oh, come on, twinstead - you know I didn't mean that!