Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[Christophera]

Please,guys, I've been tying my fingers in knots trying to resist feeding the troll.

Please, please just KILL THE THREAD!

It's like a sick addiction...

Yea, when humans realize there brothers and sisters were murdered, there is a compulsion to make accountability, even if there is a great deal of fear involved. This is because we have instincts to protect our children and the ones we love.

You are acting like a junkie who is trying to intevene in his addiction by using a fork to dig out the vein. At least apply the pure unadulterated drug of denial.

I would recomend you "one up" the "no planers". Something like, There were no towers. It was all a fabrication of media.

bomavanados would approve of this method.

 

[Oliver]

Yea, when humans realize there brothers and sisters were murdered, there is a compulsion to make accountability, even if there is a great deal of fear involved. This is because we have instincts to protect our children and the ones we love.

You are acting like a junkie who is trying to intevene in his addiction by using a fork to dig out the vein. At least apply the pure unadulterated drug of denial.

I would recomend you "one up" the "no planers". Something like, There were no towers. It was all a fabrication of media.

bomavanados would approve of this method.

Hello Christopher,

wouldn´t you like to make some more threads concerning
your other conspiracy theories since this one is discussed
to death?

Cheers,
Oliver

 

[Christophera]

you don't remember urls? have you forgotten your photographic memory?

The reason I know why there is a slope to the top of the rebar in this image is because I remember an image from the documentary showing the sloping concrete inside the forms. The narrator was explaining that engineers required that the concrete joints not be on a horizontal plane to increase the resistence to torsion and that the butt weld of rebar were on the same slope.

3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS​

when you refuse to display a much improved pic on your site?

No refusal at all. I always use the best images I can find and upgrade as soon as I find better.

I believe you refer to this image of the a part of the top of WTC 2 as it falls onto WTC 3

 

[firecoins]

Is this the right thread for an argument?

 

[Architect]

Hello Christopher,

wouldn´t you like to make some more threads concerning
your other conspiracy theories since this one is discussed
to death?

Cheers,
Oliver

OR go to the pub, get a hobby, do charitable work, and a host of other worthwhile pursuits!

 

[bonavada]

Is this the right thread for an argument?

i already told you once!

BV

 

[firecoins]

i already told you once!

BV

Is that the 100 posts or the full 20,000 posts?

 

[Oliver]

OR go to the pub, get a hobby, do charitable work, and a host of other worthwhile pursuits!

Mhmm - it would be a nasty idea but also funny to see a
Hardfire-discussion between Christopher and Gravy...

Or Gravy vs Killtown...
or Killtown vs Christopher...

 

[Christophera]

Is this the right thread for an argument?

If you had one.









But you don't. You do not even have evidence. Only lies and misrepresentations, and that, ............. is before you get ahold of it, ................... whereupon it becomes

pitiful.​

with regard to integrity to reason.

Get some spine, stand for your Constitution, ............ our Constitution.



Stand for something. Try using your real name.

 

[hcmom]

Mhmm - it would be a nasty idea but also funny to see a
Hardfire-discussion between Christopher and Gravy... http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/11107451d93669e73a.gifhttp://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/11107451d93669e73a.gifhttp://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/11107451d93669e73a.gif

Or Gravy vs Killtown...
or Killtown vs Christopher...

Oliver...by then it would have sunk so far into fantasy land there would be no returning.


Hmmmmmmmm.......

 

[Oliver]

Oliver...by then it would have sunk so far into fantasy land there would be no returning.

Hmmmmmmmm.......

Well, you might be right but it would be entertaining nevertheless.
I like Christopher - he just has to be a littlebit more openminded. :">

 

[Christophera]

Well, you might be right but it would be entertaining nevertheless.
I like Christopher - he just has to be a littlebit more openminded. :">

Ever hear that the truth is the strangest thing of all?

Okay, .......... if I accepted the truth, how strange would that be to you? And,...... if I did that would I already have had an open mind as least adequate to grasp the strangest possible thing?

Consistency, ............ consistency is very important.

 

[hcmom]

Well, you might be right but it would be entertaining nevertheless.
I like Christopher - he just has to be a littlebit more openminded. :">

I've confessed several times to liking Chris. And no matter how hard I try, I still end up checking in here...

 

[Oliver]

Ever hear that the truth is the strangest thing of all?

Okay, .......... if I accepted the truth, how strange would that be to you? And,...... if I did that would I already have had an open mind as least adequate to grasp the strangest possible thing?

Consistency, ............ consistency is very important.

I heard about the "Reality is the strangest thing of all"-issue
and i also expierienced this cognition in my life. My problem
is that you´re not able to back up your believes. Such things
like finding the inital documentary you use to cite. It must
be somewhere - or at least a mention of it, don´t you think?

 

[Christophera]

I heard about the "Reality is the strangest thing of all"-issue
and i also expierienced this cognition in my life. My problem
is that you´re not able to back up your believes. Such things
like finding the inital documentary you use to cite. It must
be somewhere - or at least a mention of it, don´t you think?

My biggest point about disinformation against the core is that those against it are working to keep the core from being a common public issue. The entire campaign of "no concrete" is specifically designed to disallow an environment where more people are encouraged to start looking for tape copy of documentary. They exist and I know it, so do those that are arguing "no concrete".

As long as readers are confused, they won't call up their local 9-11 activist buddy and say, "Hey, we better start making noise about this concrete core issue, we could really be missing an important point here."

Disinformation has created social fear of publically accepting concepts. First, by introducing concepts that sound quasi rational and citing a slew of authority which has been falsely authorized. Then a big crew of blow hards come in and makes it look stupid by citing a bunch of special interest "science" or simply "prepositioned science" and shoot it down, supporting each others perceptions and ridiculing any random supporters with lots of rude emoticons.

That makes a gate.

Conduct that operation a few times in front of an internet crowd, then send in somebody with a completely solid and rational proposal having raw evidence logically verified. Guess what happens when there is a little criticism for their concepts from the gatekeepers?

The gatekeepers only let useslesss information through.

 

[Oliver]

My biggest point about disinformation against the core is that those against it are working to keep the core from being a common public issue. The entire campaign of "no concrete" is specifically designed to disallow an environment where more people are encouraged to start looking for tape copy of documentary. They exist and I know it, so do those that are arguing "no concrete".

As long as readers are confused, they won't call up their local 9-11 activist buddy and say, "Hey, we better start making noise about this concrete core issue, we could really be missing an important point here."

Disinformation has created social fear of publically accepting concepts. First, by introducing concepts that sound quasi rational and citing a slew of authority which has been falsely authorized. Then a big crew of blow hards come in and makes it look stupid by citing a bunch of special interest "science" or simply "prepositioned science" and shoot it down, supporting each others perceptions and ridiculing any random supporters with lots of rude emoticons.

That makes a gate.

Conduct that operation a few times in front of an internet crowd, then send in somebody with a completely solid and rational proposal having raw evidence logically verified. Guess what happens when there is a little criticism for their concepts from the gatekeepers?

The gatekeepers only let useslesss information through.

Well, but i´m certainly no disinfo agent because i don´t understand
why a conrete- or non-concrete core couldn't damage the towers
the same was it happened. I see no difference - beside the fact
that a concrete core would be even heavier and accelerate the
collapse because it´s weight.

Where did your documentary go - did "they" delete every mention
of it on the internet?

 

[bonavada]

Is that the 100 posts or the full 20,000 posts?

This thread is no more. It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late thread. It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If you hadn't nailed it to the forum it would be pushing up the daisies. It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible.
THIS IS AN EX-THREAD!!!



BV

 

[Christophera]

Well, but i´m certainly no disinfo agent because i don´t understand
why a conrete- or non-concrete core couldn't damage the towers
the same was it happened. I see no difference - beside the fact
that a concrete core would be even heavier and accelerate the
collapse because it´s weight.

Concrete can be easily fractured with a relatively small amount of high explosive and it will fall instantly. Steel cannot.

If everybody knew the towers had a 80x120 foot concrete core 1300 foot tall & 17 foot thick walls at the base, and then everybody looked at ground zero for chunks of concrete and found only sand and gravel, do you think this might raise some questions??????

Where did your documentary go - did "they" delete every mention
of it on the internet?

It existed as a TV documentary.

Undoubtedly it was copied to tape. That was before the internet was in common use. .com didn't even exist then.

Then the web existed for ten years after that and the only special thing about the WTC was that it had the tallest towers which had been bombed once. Which doesn't have any thing to do with the documentary about the towers.

So there may never have been any mention of it on the web until I started posting about and made a web site.

 

[Christophera]

This thread is no more. It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late thread. It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace. If you hadn't nailed it to the forum it would be pushing up the daisies. It's run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible.
THIS IS AN EX-THREAD!!!

BV

Are you a gatekeeper bv?

You really put a lot of ridicule into the concrete core concept and have never adequately supported the steel core columns with explanations of how free fall was enabled with them in position while they are ALSO NEVER seen in images of the towers demise.

 

[Belz...]

Chris reminds me of Appolo in Rocky IV...

Throw the damn towel, already.