Christophera's Other Conspiracy

[Loss Leader]

Is it reasonable to suppose that the Director of the Santa Barbara County Mental Health Department and the Chief Medical Doctor of that department would "carry your request forward to the state" if they DID NOT approve of the proposed treatment?

Is it reasonable that they would forward your request if they did not approve? Yes. All that they need to do is send the letter with a post-it note that says , "Here." Then, they can wash their hands of the whole thing.

However, here is what is more reasonable: that they would SAY they were carrying your request forward and then forget about the whole thing. This is by far the most reasonable course of action because it allows them to respond politely to you while still doing the nothing they always intended to do.

Christopher, the "proofs" that you show are frequently just form letters and polite thanks for your inquiries. In the years that you have been mailing these people, nobody has ever taken up any of your ideas. It is not because they are being silenced or that they fear for their jobs. It is because your ideas are obviously symptoms of mental illness.

Get help today.

 

[Christophera]

Is it reasonable that they would forward your request if they did not approve? Yes. All that they need to do is send the letter with a post-it note that says , "Here." Then, they can wash their hands of the whole thing.

However, here is what is more reasonable: that they would SAY they were carrying your request forward and then forget about the whole thing. This is by far the most reasonable course of action because it allows them to respond politely to you while still doing the nothing they always intended to do.

Christopher, the "proofs" that you show are frequently just form letters and polite thanks for your inquiries. In the years that you have been mailing these people, nobody has ever taken up any of your ideas. It is not because they are being silenced or that they fear for their jobs. It is because your ideas are obviously symptoms of mental illness.

Get help today.

Apparently your ability to reason is impaired by attitudes.

The Director and Chief Medical Doctor were sincere and were planning to go to Sacramento anyway. That is why they used the term "carry". They saw my request as a timely opportunity to bring such ideas to the table.

BTW, the director resigned about six months later. From what associates of mine who knew her say, she was a very sincere person and truly working for the peoples interests. I feel she saw that her superiors did not have the integrity to the people interests she had and so she could never meet her own standards for public service and left it.

 

[Christophera]

Chris, it's Hogmanay or whatever you guys call New Year in the States. Away and have a good time, eh?

Happy New Year (it's 1am here in Scotland).

It seems you are really indicating Winter Solstice.

http://www.hogmanay.net/events/orkney/maeshowe

Which is past, the true, ancient new year.

The practices of our ancestors of Celts and Druids, the people and the Shamans and the keeping of oral histories with the circadian rhythm in the unconsicous mind, that brought the history of earth to the present, BEFORE the written word.

 

[Architect]

Trivia fact about Maes Howe:

Every year, Historic Scotland (the government agency who care for the monument) have to import a tonne or so of gravel for the floor because tourists keep pinching it, believing it to be an authentic historic feature!

Trivia Fact no.2:

Only about half of the viking grafitti is translated, because it's all along the lines of "Fin Mac Fin O der Finnson Shagged Helga Olavsdottir here"

 

[Loss Leader]

The practices of our ancestors of Celts and Druids, the people and the Shamans and the keeping of oral histories with the circadian rhythm in the unconsicous mind, that brought the history of earth to the present, BEFORE the written word.

What is the verb in that sentence?

 

[Mr.D]

It seems you are really indicating Winter Solstice.

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Which is past, the true, ancient new year.

The practices of our ancestors of Celts and Druids, the people and the Shamans and the keeping of oral histories with the circadian rhythm in the unconsicous mind, that brought the history of earth to the present, BEFORE the written word.

Have you informed the Chinese? According to you, they've been getting the "true" new year wrong much much longer than the western world - and they have written records to show it.

By the way, you may want to research Japanese/Buddhist superstitions regarding numbers - you might find out some interesting traditions involving numbers like 46 (twice 23 - ooooh, scary).

 

[Christophera]

Have you informed the Chinese? According to you, they've been getting the "true" new year wrong much much longer than the western world - and they have written records to show it.

By the way, you may want to research Japanese/Buddhist superstitions regarding numbers - you might find out some interesting traditions involving numbers like 46 (twice 23 - ooooh, scary).

No, those numbers aren't scary. Check this thread, now this is, .. oooh, scary.

SezMe (22nd November 2006)
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69171








Okay, .........

That the Chineses calendar comes from the 16th century and instead of being much older says a great deal. Then you look at its' origins and you learn more.

Okay, .............. engage and open mind, logic etc. Answer a question in order to see a possible infuence.

Q:
"Really, what was the great wall for?"

Now, what does the following represent in relation to offense/defensive manuever over time?

Adam Schall (??? [???], T?ng Rùowàng, 1591-1666), Imperial Astronomer in Beijing. Designed the current Chinese calendar

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13520a.htm
Johann Adam Schall von Bell

An especially prominent figure among the missionaries to China, b. of an important family at Cologne in 1591; d. at Peking, 15 Aug., 1666. He studied at Rome, where he entered the Society of Jesus on 20 Oct., 1611. After his novitiate and some years devoted to philosophy and theology, he asked to be sent on the missions and in April, 1618, he set sail from Lisbon for China. When he reached Macao (1619) the Chinese Christian settlements were still deeply troubled by the war waged against them since 1615 by the high mandarin Kio Shin. Four of the chief missionaries, two of them from Peking, had been expelled and conducted to Macao; the others had only escaped the same fate through the devotion of some Christian mandarins who hid them in their houses. It was only in 1622, when the persecution began to relax, that Schall could penetrate to the interior. He laboured first at Si-ngan-fu in Shen-si. His ministry, which for a long time was difficult and thwarted, had just begun to afford him great consolation when he was summoned to Peking in 1630. He had to replace Father Terrentius (deceased) in the work of reforming the Chinese calendar. The task was far removed from his ordinary duties of the apostolate but it was one on which the future of the mission then depended.

Politically, China is divided into 22 provinces (including Taiwan), five autonomous regions and the three municipalities of Beijing (Peking), Tianjin and Shanghai, which are directly under the central government.[/i]




Over all, do you see how there is kind of temporal/numerological symetry represented here, even down to the strange multiples of one of the ancient days of sunworship, 21, 22 & 23, that you introduce as a modification which was enacted by a european and not a chinese?

Check the religious and national origins.

Sure, all the numbers are not 22 or whatever, ...... but they are always there right in the middle of significant events that relate in some way to esoteric factors. Then of course that unconscious world would not expose itself by being so obvious as to ocasionaly cause all the dates and numbers to fall on the ancient sun numbers, that would violate the 11th commandment.

 

[Christophera]

What is the verb in that sentence?

What if it had no nouns?

 

[DarkMagician]

EDIT: Oh, aren't we at kitten pictures yet? Sorry, my bad.

 

[Christophera]

Trivia fact about Maes Howe:

Every year, Historic Scotland (the government agency who care for the monument) have to import a tonne or so of gravel for the floor because tourists keep pinching it, believing it to be an authentic historic feature!

Wow!

That is very good to know. I mean this indicates that the people visiting have a sense of the sacred that overcomes them to the point where they lose regard for the deep Scottish sense of thrift, and steal from the government.

Trivia Fact no.2:

Only about half of the viking grafitti is translated, because it's all along the lines of "Fin Mac Fin O der Finnson Shagged Helga Olavsdottir here"

Ohh, very bad.

Just because it is a fertility shrine doesn't mean that sex is okay. In fact that would be tabboo. No doubt "Fin Mac Fin O der Finnson" and "Helga Olavsdottir" paid a severe price for such behavior, even if they were invaders, especially if they were invaders and left their names instead of taking gravel.

The ancient emphasis was on "responsibility for fertility" or being responsible socially for the futures of the product of fertility, the children. The rites were taught to the attendees while in a deep trance state called "somnambulism", a name not very adequate as technically it describes a sleep state rather than a deep hypnotic trance. This was taught to them perhpas before they were 6 years of age making the responses to the conditions of the rituals felt very deeply.

Another glaring aspect of neglect by psychology. Only one other name is close to that name for a depth of trance and that is the "Eisdale" state, which is supposed to be deeper yet.

How much are we missing ni life without this aspect? Could this be responsible for modern parents inability to make small sacrifices to work together to protect the future for their children? I mean temporary comfort and security have been traded for long term security as parents avoid simple truthful discussion about world events just to maintain social comfort.

Deep neglect to our instinctual programs.

This must cause very deep disturbances in those that cannot ignore the simple facts of our apathy, neglect and social confusion.

 

[Architect]

the deep Scottish sense of thrift

About 90% of visitors to the Howe are from outwith Scotland; predominantly Europe, but with a sizeable proportion of North Americans (usually off of cruise ships which pull into Kirkwall)

Just because it is a fertility shrine doesn't mean that sex is okay

The Vikings broke in during Mediaeval times in order to loot it (but had been beaten there by persons unknow) and so left the graffitti. Like I say, a fair bit is so rude that it isn't translated for the visitors.

Just because it is a fertility shrine

It's a chambered tomb.

 

[yodaluver28]

Wow!

That is very good to know. I mean this indicates that the people visiting have a sense of the sacred that overcomes them to the point where they lose regard for the deep Scottish sense of thrift, and steal from the government.

Trivia Fact no.2:

Ohh, very bad.

Just because it is a fertility shrine doesn't mean that sex is okay. In fact that would be tabboo. No doubt "Fin Mac Fin O der Finnson" and "Helga Olavsdottir" paid a severe price for such behavior, even if they were invaders, especially if they were invaders and left their names instead of taking gravel.

The ancient emphasis was on "responsibility for fertility" or being responsible socially for the futures of the product of fertility, the children. The rites were taught to the attendees while in a deep trance state called "somnambulism", a name not very adequate as technically it describes a sleep state rather than a deep hypnotic trance. This was taught to them perhpas before they were 6 years of age making the responses to the conditions of the rituals felt very deeply.

Somnambulism is sleepwalking, nothing more, and contrary popular belief, sleepwalking rarely involves people actually walking around while sleeping. The average duration of a "somnambulic episode" is about 30 seconds and there is no evidence that there is any heightened awareness or deeper connection to the intellectual or emotional portions of the brain in this state that can't be accessed while the person is completely awake. Some have taken "somnambulism" as a synonym for "hypnotic trance" but this is incorrect.

Another glaring aspect of neglect by psychology. Only one other name is close to that name for a depth of trance and that is the "Eisdale" state, which is supposed to be deeper yet.

The so-called "Esdaile State" has nothing to do with hypnosis. Dr. James Esdaile pioneered the technique of mesmeric anesthesia in order to perform surgeries with relatively little pain during his practice in India before common chemical anethesia was available there. The process was long, arduous, and required a significant amount of direct physical stimulation of the patient, which Esdaile eventually delegated to this aides because of his failing health. Esdaile never studied or used hypnosis in his practice.

The misunderstanding probably comes from the fact that James Braid developled the hypnotic technique after studying Franz Mesmer's work in animal magnetism, which was often referred to by British physcian's of the time as mesmerism, but they are not similar in practice or purpose.

 

[Christophera]

Somnambulism is sleepwalking, nothing more, and contrary popular belief, sleepwalking rarely involves people actually walking around while sleeping. The average duration of a "somnambulic episode" is about 30 seconds and there is no evidence that there is any heightened awareness or deeper connection to the intellectual or emotional portions of the brain in this state that can't be accessed while the person is completely awake. Some have taken "somnambulism" as a synonym for "hypnotic trance" but this is incorrect.

I understand and appreciate your efforts to clairify something which is confused and not our fault.

If authoritive texts of psychology use the term "somnambulism", historically embedded, properly in relation to hyper amnesia, an effect that occures only with somnambulism, is modern psychology negligent for not making a better term to alleviate YOUR confusion. SEE TEXT OF "Emotions and Memory" below.

The so-called "Esdaile State" has nothing to do with hypnosis. Dr. James Esdaile pioneered the technique of mesmeric anesthesia in order to perform surgeries with relatively little pain during his practice in India before common chemical anethesia was available there. The process was long, arduous, and required a significant amount of direct physical stimulation of the patient, which Esdaile eventually delegated to this aides because of his failing health. Esdaile never studied or used hypnosis in his practice.

Technically you may be correct by reference to his actual techniques. However, the world doesn't know that. Meaning I prefer to stay on the same page with the rest of the planaet until better terms are applied/created by psychology.

http://www.answers.com/topic/hypnotherapy
Pioneers in this field, such as James Braid and James Esdaile discovered that hypnosis could be used to successfully anesthetize patients for surgeries.

http://www.hypnosis-tapes.org/hypnosis-history.htm
There, he reported on James Esdaile, a Scottish surgeon working in India, who had performed several hundred operations painlessly using only hypnosis (mesmerism) as an anesthetic.

http://www.laughingcherub.com/
Meanwhile, James Esdaile, a surgeon from Great Britain, utilized hypnosis successfully as an anesthetic for over three thousand surgical operations in India in the mid-1800s,

The misunderstanding probably comes from the fact that James Braid developled the hypnotic technique after studying Franz Mesmer's work in animal magnetism, which was often referred to by British physcian's of the time as mesmerism, but they are not similar in practice or purpose.

In practice perhaps not. The purpose is to induce a trance. All the different terms have been compiled into Braids coining of the word "hypnosis".

My point is that psychology has not sorted out the confusion. Instead they propagate such nonsense that people cannot be hypnotized without their knowledge or against their will.

This has made it so it is absolutely legal in California to hypnotize a person without their knowledge.

 

[Christophera]

About 90% of visitors to the Howe are from outwith Scotland; predominantly Europe, but with a sizeable proportion of North Americans (usually off of cruise ships which pull into Kirkwall)

Still, I would imagine the Scottish officials that must authorize the purchases of fresh gravel every year bemoan the compulsive thefts by tourists wishing to carry a little of the sacred shrine homw with them.

The Vikings broke in during Mediaeval times in order to loot it (but had been beaten there by persons unknow) and so left the graffitti. Like I say, a fair bit is so rude that it isn't translated for the visitors.

It's a chambered tomb.

Meaning that the area where the solar instrument terminates is separate from the part where the lustful vikings had their ways with their women. Still, the entire area is sacred and any behaviors of that type would perhaps linger for generations within the families involved. Especially if they left their names in flagrant contempt carved into the walls.

 

[Architect]

Still, I would imagine the Scottish officials that must authorize the purchases of fresh gravel every year bemoan the compulsive thefts by tourists wishing to carry a little of the sacred shrine homw with them.

Actually when I worked there, we all thought it was funny. Anyway a tonne bag of pea gravel only costs around £30, plus an afternoon for a couple of lads getting it into the tomb.

Meaning that the area where the solar instrument terminates is separate from the part where the lustful vikings had their ways with their women. Still, the entire area is sacred and any behaviors of that type would perhaps linger for generations within the families involved. Especially if they left their names in flagrant contempt carved into the walls.

They were just vandals looking for loot, mate, and having a quick shag while they were about it..........it's just one of those funny, historic things. It's not all Kirk and Tony and big, ornate horns you know.

 

[Christophera]

Actually when I worked there, we all thought it was funny. Anyway a tonne bag of pea gravel only costs around £30, plus an afternoon for a couple of lads getting it into the tomb.

Not to change the subject bu gravel comes in a tonne bag over there?

They were just vandals looking for loot, mate, and having a quick shag while they were about it..........it's just one of those funny, historic things. It's not all Kirk and Tony and big, ornate horns you know.

Oh no, ................ I had visions of Kirk and Tony hypnotizing Ingrid Bergman with everybody wearing horny Viking helmets then having wild pagan sex.

No wonder they don't translate the grafitti, it doesn't live up o th tourists expectations.

 

[Architect]

Not to change the subject bu gravel comes in a tonne bag over there?

25kg bags (bit of a waste of time), 1 tonne aggregate bags which can be dropped off a hi-ab delivery truck, or of course you can go and get 10 tonnes or whatever off a dumber truck.

Oh no, ................ I had visions of Kirk and Tony hypnotizing Ingrid Bergman with everybody wearing horny Viking helmets then having wild pagan sex.

Wasn't it Janet Leigh that was the heroine?

 

[Christophera]

1 tonne aggregate bags which can be dropped off a hi-ab delivery truck, or of course you can go and get 10 tonnes or whatever off a dumber truck.

So they actually have a 1 tonne bag?

What is a hi-ab delivery truck? Is that what we call a "roll off" box here?

And I assume "dumber truck" is a typo and you mean "dumper truck". I always thought the dump was a pretty good idea. I've loaded thousands and dealt with the contents of thousands in the past.

Wasn't it Janet Leigh that was the heroine?

You are correct. My recall of old movies (not construction documentaries) is vague.

Below is an image of the 1992 Winter Solstice from the coastal mountains behind Santa Barbara. The "Keepers of the Eastern gate", one tribe is called, Abanaki, from Maine refer to it as "The Great Shrine of the West". The local people, the Samala or Chumash (the "Keepers of the Western Gate") call it "The Grandmother Shrine"

The camera is placed at the crotch of a 200 foot long stone shape which crudely resembles a woman, Grandmother. On Winter Solstice, the light of Grandfather Sun tavels through that hole in a distant cave and lands on her crotch.

Here is some info on the spiritual elite of the "Keepers of the Western gate", the 'antap.

http://algoxy.com/miskno/antap.html

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4959&stc=1&d=1168109827

 

[Architect]

Yes, 1 tonne bags are quite common for smaller jobs - for example, 1 tonne of sand and 1 of aggregate (together with some cement) produces rather a lot of concrete.

Hi-ab lorries are those flatbed trucks with the hydraulic articulated arm behind the cab for offloading materials.

And I did mean dumper truck, apologies for the spelling mistake.



Surely materials are delivered in broadly similar quantities (albeit imperial) in the States?




And there's no evidence of fertility rites or anything inside Maes Howe; we certainly know that by medieval times, the original entrance and the Viking tunnel had both been lost and it was just a big mound of earth.

In Orkney there was an issue with the removal of these sites by the unversally Christian post-Viking community as they were, of course, pagan sites....

 

[A W Smith]

Yes, 1 tonne bags are quite common for smaller jobs - for example, 1 tonne of sand and 1 of aggregate (together with some cement) produces rather a lot of concrete.

Hi-ab lorries are those flatbed trucks with the hydraulic articulated arm behind the cab for offloading materials.

And I did mean dumper truck, apologies for the spelling mistake.



Surely materials are delivered in broadly similar quantities (albeit imperial) in the States?




And there's no evidence of fertility rites or anything inside Maes Howe; we certainly know that by medieval times, the original entrance and the Viking tunnel had both been lost and it was just a big mound of earth.

In Orkney there was an issue with the removal of these sites by the unversally Christian post-Viking community as they were, of course, pagan sites....

No not really. Ive never seen bagged material over 80 lbs. Everything else is loose in 2000 lb measure or cubic yards. They just come and dump it on the ground. Deliveries are scaled before being sent. Articulated arms on flat bed trucks are for delivering 4" x 4' x 4' cubes of concrete block or clay brick. 3 x 3 pallets of roofing or for banded material (lumber or sheet goods). Not too many 'skips' as you call them over here either. Just roll off dumpsters in 10, 20, 30, 40, cu yard increments. What would look like "skips" in the UK are mostly used as 1, 2, 4, cu yd for commercial restaurants, retail and business municipal waste.

If you dinnae have skips, what do you get rid of the rubbish in?

see above. we call them dumpsters. Think of a dump truck body thats not attached to the truck. it rests on truck bed rails and slides off.

http://www.brickmanhouse.com/journal05/dumpster.jpg

oh forgot to mention. we dont have rubbish either