How Loony are the Loons?

[WildCat]

this is too easy

from NIST

I predict that pdoh RB will move the goalposts and demand a precise model of the entire collapse.

 

[Horatius]

this is too easy

from NIST

No they have not!! Please provide the page that they define the mechanism. I have looked it over and do not see it ANYWHERE!

Beautiful! I guess that should read:

I have overlooked it and do not see it ANYWHERE!

What was that about "learning to read and comprehend"? Oh, right!

If you notice the FINAL comment in that sentence it says "I will look for it"! MORON, learn to read and comprehend!

So, does this mean I can call you "MORON" from now on?

 

[aggle-rithm]

Well, that's because I am OPEN to the evidence, unlike most of you in here. I review the information and determine what the truth is. I DO know that the Governments version is a FARCE!

And yet you DON'T know how to use the quote button. Very strange.

I can validate the math that I come across as being factual, but I am NOT a structural engineer.

That's OK. It shouldn't be an obstacle to using the quote button. Give it a try! You might enjoy it, and many obstacles to clear communication will be removed.

I rely upon people who are more educated than me or are direct workers in the field.

Some of these people have told you how to use the quote button, but it appears not to have sunk in.

 

[hellaeon]

RB Jref

My ignore list is full of pretty much only CTers.

 

[aggle-rithm]

I've noticed that a lot of troofers seem to have control issues. 28K exerts control by putting anyone who disagrees with him on "ignore". The current bozo does it by refusing to adhere to even the most basic netiquette.

So, what's the difference between these guys and Adolph Hitler? Adolph moved out of his mom's house, eventually.

 

[Horatius]

So, what's the difference between these guys and Adolph Hitler?

Hitler actually had people take him seriously.

 

[Kiwiwriter]

So I have to ask again...

Just like the government would NEVER attack it's own. Yet there are plenty of examples, the U.S.S. Liberty is one that can't be disputed.

You have made this statement, but you have yet to provide a single proof of your claim that the US attacked this ship.

It is well documented that Israel attacked it, and wound up paying compensation on this issue. Even neo-Nazis, who hate Israel and Jews with a passion, blame this attack on Israel.

So, same question as before to 28thKingdom:

Can you prove that the United States has EVER launched a "false-flag" attack on its own citizens?

 

[Kiwiwriter]

"Hermetically sealed?"

I'm still waiting for the evidence he promised yesterday that the WTC towers were "hermetically sealed" - seriously, he really said that!

This guy has never been in them, obviously.

 

[LashL]

Yes, he really said that they were "hermetically sealed"

This guy has never been in them, obviously.

Obviously, you are correct

And, just as obviously, RemoveBush has no idea about what "hermetically sealed" means.

 

[RemoveBush]

"Sorry, but lack of evidence isn't evidence of anything. Please provide some links demonstrating widespread scientific dissatisfaction with the NIST investigation."

Will provide in a few, looking for them now.

"What aspect of the "mechenism" [sic] of the collapse do you feel was inadequately addressed? Various reports deal with the damage from the impact, the fire damage, and the collapse initiation itself. Assuming you read all the final reports, what do you feel should have been talked about more."

No they really don't. I have read them but it was a while back so I cannot quote any specific part right now! They did not provide answers to the fundamental questions of the collapse!

"Not a good debating practice. It makes you look 10 times worse than they do."

Yeah, but so be it! I'm not going to stand by and get attacked by people because I believe in EVIDENCE over OPPINION about something.

"You hauled up the same topics as every other CTist that has come here. I would assume this is because you believe you are capable of convincing us. Did you bother to chart the course of the other discussions, or did you just dive right on in?"

As I have already addressed... I came in here because someone posted my reply to a government agency and were attacking me with insults. I came in here to address those that wanted to debate the article I posted on another web site that was in turn copied to here and being insulted with NO support other than just name calling.

"Nor did I say you did, but thank you for putting those words in my mouth regardless. When I use quotes I am not implying you stated something. I use the quote function for that."

Oh really, notice that you DID NOT copy the original comments I made about this, but only the comment I made????

"All these things you've brought up have been discussed before, and most of the people here are getting tired of the same old BS being touted as "new evidence" that will simply blow our socks off."

See above for the following question:

"Please provide the point at which I have put words in your mouth, twisted your statements, or lied. Every quote from you I have simply used as a frame of reference for my responses to you. Please provide evidence that any other poster has done this."

"A long post on 911blogger.com by a deranged, semi-literate loon. It's fascinating that he gets NOTHING right. These are the people who want to change the world, who brand as "sheeple" others whose reasoning abilities are vastly superior. How can such an incredibly stupid person pontificate about subjects he can't begin to comprehend??"

"How Loony are the Loons?

Words fail."

"What scares me is these nut cases ... "

"Guy sounds like a fruitcake with extra nuts."

"I just hope that these loons are never let near positions of power, or, more importantly, weapons of mass destruction. Sadly, as Tim McVeigh shows us, they have."

This is all on just the 1st page. Notice not ONE person actually addressing any of the points I made to a Government Web Site.

Please provide the place ANYWHERE where I state that anything I state is "new" or "will blow your socks off". ANYWHERE! This is putting words in my mouth!

 

[RemoveBush]

Here is a list of HIGH level officials who question the results of what Bush's administration has provided...

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

 

[Kiwiwriter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah....

"Sorry, but lack of evidence isn't evidence of anything. Please provide some links demonstrating widespread scientific dissatisfaction with the NIST investigation."

Will provide in a few, looking for them now.

"What aspect of the "mechenism" [sic] of the collapse do you feel was inadequately addressed? Various reports deal with the damage from the impact, the fire damage, and the collapse initiation itself. Assuming you read all the final reports, what do you feel should have been talked about more."

No they really don't. I have read them but it was a while back so I cannot quote any specific part right now! They did not provide answers to the fundamental questions of the collapse!

"Not a good debating practice. It makes you look 10 times worse than they do."

Yeah, but so be it! I'm not going to stand by and get attacked by people because I believe in EVIDENCE over OPPINION about something.



"I just hope that these loons are never let near positions of power, or, more importantly, weapons of mass destruction. Sadly, as Tim McVeigh shows us, they have."

So I'll ask you again...

Do you have any evidence that the United States government attacked the USS Liberty, under a false flag or not?

Do you have any evidence that the United States government has ever made a "false-flag" attack on its own citizens, at any time?

As for your re-use of my quote...did I single you out, or did I write "these loons?"

Please present it.

 

[WildCat]

"Sorry, but lack of evidence isn't evidence of anything. Please provide some links demonstrating widespread scientific dissatisfaction with the NIST investigation."

Will provide in a few, looking for them now.

"What aspect of the "mechenism" [sic] of the collapse do you feel was inadequately addressed? Various reports deal with the damage from the impact, the fire damage, and the collapse initiation itself. Assuming you read all the final reports, what do you feel should have been talked about more."

No they really don't. I have read them but it was a while back so I cannot quote any specific part right now! They did not provide answers to the fundamental questions of the collapse!

"Not a good debating practice. It makes you look 10 times worse than they do."

Yeah, but so be it! I'm not going to stand by and get attacked by people because I believe in EVIDENCE over OPPINION about something.

"You hauled up the same topics as every other CTist that has come here. I would assume this is because you believe you are capable of convincing us. Did you bother to chart the course of the other discussions, or did you just dive right on in?"

As I have already addressed... I came in here because someone posted my reply to a government agency and were attacking me with insults. I came in here to address those that wanted to debate the article I posted on another web site that was in turn copied to here and being insulted with NO support other than just name calling.

"Nor did I say you did, but thank you for putting those words in my mouth regardless. When I use quotes I am not implying you stated something. I use the quote function for that."

Oh really, notice that you DID NOT copy the original comments I made about this, but only the comment I made????

"All these things you've brought up have been discussed before, and most of the people here are getting tired of the same old BS being touted as "new evidence" that will simply blow our socks off."

See above for the following question:

"Please provide the point at which I have put words in your mouth, twisted your statements, or lied. Every quote from you I have simply used as a frame of reference for my responses to you. Please provide evidence that any other poster has done this."

"A long post on 911blogger.com by a deranged, semi-literate loon. It's fascinating that he gets NOTHING right. These are the people who want to change the world, who brand as "sheeple" others whose reasoning abilities are vastly superior. How can such an incredibly stupid person pontificate about subjects he can't begin to comprehend??"

"How Loony are the Loons?

Words fail."

"What scares me is these nut cases ... "

"Guy sounds like a fruitcake with extra nuts."

"I just hope that these loons are never let near positions of power, or, more importantly, weapons of mass destruction. Sadly, as Tim McVeigh shows us, they have."

This is all on just the 1st page. Notice not ONE person actually addressing any of the points I made to a Government Web Site.

Please provide the place ANYWHERE where I state that anything I state is "new" or "will blow your socks off". ANYWHERE! This is putting words in my mouth!

All crystal clear.

 

[babazaroni]

"Just to rub some salt in here:

Just think, RemovedBrain. A lowly electrical tech can figure out how to use the quote function. Why can't an engineer of such supreme intelligence as yourself not do the same?

Just asking questions!"

I can.... It's just simpler to copy the comment and paste it than going through all the other crap I have to for the "quote".

If its that hard for you... Here is a clue.... Just look for " in the beging and the end of what is being quoted.... This has been used for HUNDREDS of years and it has worked just fine all that time!

Dude, bring your skills up to the modern era.

It's much simpler to use the quote function instead of "cut and paste" and you get the tremendous benefit of being able to see who made the quote and be able to move instantly to that quote.

Why don't you understand this?

 

[WildCat]

Why don't you understand this?

Dude, he's a troofer.

 

[ktesibios]

What calculations or formulas do you want to discuss??? "Newtons 3 laws", "Conservation of Energy"?

How about E = MC^2?

Well, IDW RemoveBush, I personally want you to show me the calculations involved in solving the two dead-easy problems I posed for you here.

The only mathematical skills you will need to do that are addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, raising a number to a power and extracting a square root, and you can use a calculator to do all of that. What you also need is a bit of knowledge, which I assure you a hasty Googling will not substitute for.

If you have the technical background you claim to, you will either have this knowledge ready to hand or be able quickly to refresh your memory and approach the problems from a position of understanding.

Just in case you can't manage either question, here's an alternative which will also serve to establish that you have at least a tech-school level of knowledge:

Explain, in your own words, the superposition theorem and give a simple, specific example of applying it in solving a basic circuit problem. Cut-and-pasting a statement of the theorem itself is acceptable provided that you give your own original explanation of what it means.

It's your innings, IDW RemoveBush. Will you demonstrate a minimum level of competence in the field you claim as your own, or should I conclude that you're just another obnoxious poseur with the language skills of an adolescent boy who reads only when coerced?

 

[Gravy]

No quote button, no reply. RemoveBush doesn't have the courtesy to use a simple forum function so that we don't have to edit his posts.

 

[RemoveBush]

"They falsified the DNA. How did they do that?"

How was this monitored? I bet there was no one but the FBI or government allowed to witness the sampling. You seriously think there is NO CHANCE for any falsification?

"And where are the actual passengers?"

Dead! Your putting the cart before the horse! First a complete INDEPENDANT investigation needs to be conducted in order to get to the level of asking that question if it comes up!

"And how did they fake the phone calls from the planes?"

That's the easy part! Having held a FCC equivilent license for over 8 years, I can tell you that cell phones did not work at cruising altitudes or over 200 MPH! The towers CANNOT negotiate properly! If it was so easy for cell phones to work, why would the airlines need to invest millions in a transponder on planes to allow for cell phone calls? Sure some might be able to make a call, but it WOULD NOT be able to hold a call longer than 15 to 30 seconds at that speed. PERIOD!

"And who attacked USS Liberty?"

Isreal, supposedly by request of the US.

"And what has USS Liberty to do with this?"

It shows that the government is capable and willing to kill it's own. Much like Operation Northwoods.

"How about some documented, provable answers, not theory, supposition, speculation, and conspiracy mania?"

I have provided many, but you just ignore it or call it a conspiracy! What's the point if your not even going to debate what I provide?

 

[WildCat]

"Sorry, but lack of evidence isn't evidence of anything. Please provide some links demonstrating widespread scientific dissatisfaction with the NIST investigation."

Will provide in a few, looking for them now.

"What aspect of the "mechenism" [sic] of the collapse do you feel was inadequately addressed? Various reports deal with the damage from the impact, the fire damage, and the collapse initiation itself. Assuming you read all the final reports, what do you feel should have been talked about more."

No they really don't. I have read them but it was a while back so I cannot quote any specific part right now! They did not provide answers to the fundamental questions of the collapse!

"Not a good debating practice. It makes you look 10 times worse than they do."

Yeah, but so be it! I'm not going to stand by and get attacked by people because I believe in EVIDENCE over OPPINION about something.

"You hauled up the same topics as every other CTist that has come here. I would assume this is because you believe you are capable of convincing us. Did you bother to chart the course of the other discussions, or did you just dive right on in?"

As I have already addressed... I came in here because someone posted my reply to a government agency and were attacking me with insults. I came in here to address those that wanted to debate the article I posted on another web site that was in turn copied to here and being insulted with NO support other than just name calling.

"Nor did I say you did, but thank you for putting those words in my mouth regardless. When I use quotes I am not implying you stated something. I use the quote function for that."

Oh really, notice that you DID NOT copy the original comments I made about this, but only the comment I made????

"All these things you've brought up have been discussed before, and most of the people here are getting tired of the same old BS being touted as "new evidence" that will simply blow our socks off."

See above for the following question:

"Please provide the point at which I have put words in your mouth, twisted your statements, or lied. Every quote from you I have simply used as a frame of reference for my responses to you. Please provide evidence that any other poster has done this."

"A long post on 911blogger.com by a deranged, semi-literate loon. It's fascinating that he gets NOTHING right. These are the people who want to change the world, who brand as "sheeple" others whose reasoning abilities are vastly superior. How can such an incredibly stupid person pontificate about subjects he can't begin to comprehend??"

"How Loony are the Loons?

Words fail."

"What scares me is these nut cases ... "

"Guy sounds like a fruitcake with extra nuts."

"I just hope that these loons are never let near positions of power, or, more importantly, weapons of mass destruction. Sadly, as Tim McVeigh shows us, they have."

This is all on just the 1st page. Notice not ONE person actually addressing any of the points I made to a Government Web Site.

Please provide the place ANYWHERE where I state that anything I state is "new" or "will blow your socks off". ANYWHERE! This is putting words in my mouth!

All crystal clear.

"They falsified the DNA. How did they do that?"

How was this monitored? I bet there was no one but the FBI or government allowed to witness the sampling. You seriously think there is NO CHANCE for any falsification?

"And where are the actual passengers?"

Dead! Your putting the cart before the horse! First a complete INDEPENDANT investigation needs to be conducted in order to get to the level of asking that question if it comes up!

"And how did they fake the phone calls from the planes?"

That's the easy part! Having held a FCC equivilent license for over 8 years, I can tell you that cell phones did not work at cruising altitudes or over 200 MPH! The towers CANNOT negotiate properly! If it was so easy for cell phones to work, why would the airlines need to invest millions in a transponder on planes to allow for cell phone calls? Sure some might be able to make a call, but it WOULD NOT be able to hold a call longer than 15 to 30 seconds at that speed. PERIOD!

"And who attacked USS Liberty?"

Isreal, supposedly by request of the US.

"And what has USS Liberty to do with this?"

It shows that the government is capable and willing to kill it's own. Much like Operation Northwoods.

"How about some documented, provable answers, not theory, supposition, speculation, and conspiracy mania?"

I have provided many, but you just ignore it or call it a conspiracy! What's the point if your not even going to debate what I provide?

Sorry, I do not reply to such improperly formatted crap.

 

[A W Smith]

No they really don't. I have read them but it was a while back so I cannot quote any specific part right now! They did not provide answers to the fundamental questions of the collapse!

well i answered that one page back but I wont provide the link. You will just have to search and respond to it since you refuse to use forum functions.