How Loony are the Loons?

"Wearing a railroad hat, blowing a wooden wistle and going "Look at me, I'm a train on a track, I'm a train, I'm a train, I'm a chucka train, woo woo!" does not make one an engineer."

Case in point!! So what prey tell makes YOU an expert?

Please ENLIGHTEN us oh wise one!

Where did I claim I was an expert?
 
"A lab setup and a 110 story building kind of have different forces working on the structure. Did the NIST truss sag, yes or no?"

Oh yhe of little scientific knowledge!!! I'll answer your question with a YES, however that is not meaningful!

The trusses did sag, but it took (I beleive) 4 hours at extremely HIGH temperatures. Obviously, the buildings were not that hot as there were people standing in the holes! Therfore, the temperature was low and the smoke showed this as well. Thick black smoke signifies a fire being smothered and about to die. The temperature in the building was low, even according to the fire department with their many audio recordings.....

So just because the NIST lab experiement sagged, 3 or 4 hours under EXTREME heat does not mean that the WTC would have sagged sooner. You forget that the trusses were not laying on top of one another, in other words the floors were not stacked on each other to create more stress.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the NIST data shows otherwise!

This post is so full of false assumptions, I don't know where to begin. How's about a picture of the 'dying' fires? Jerk...

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RB:

Is there a particular reason why you have not replied to me. I have only acted civil to you, yet seem intent on ignoring my reply to you.

as for the "quote" function. You should use it, or if you wish to cut and paste, than just add the [sling][/sling] tags (put "quote" in where you see "sling") around what you have cut/pasted.

TAM
 
"Please, point out the two isolated pockets of fire on the 78th floor. Also point out the not so large fires. Thanks much."

Hey brainiac! No one is not saying that there were no fires..... Once again TWISTING and DISTORTION!

Bolding mine.

Where did I say that you said there were no fires? Twisting and distorting much? Jerk...

Well, considering that the firefighters state on the released tapes that there were only small pockets of fire and could be contained, I would say that the fire was not that large. Not large enough to cause that damage. If it would take 2 lines to put out those fires, then I guess the towers should have fallen long ago from the fires one of the WTC experienced years earlier when it took out multiple floors that took many more than 2 hoses to put it out.
 
Once again, it's nice to see you acknowledging the work the FBI and NTSB did on the investigations into 9/11. One wonders why you only have such bouts of sanity intermittently.

Oh, well, I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation for it.

There is an explanation - I wrote that...not RB. :D
 
If the fires were so STRONG how can people stand in the windows? Would they not just burn up with such heat? So that would mean that the fires were not that hot since a person could stand in a room with it.
That does it.

You and your ilk sicken me. Beyond belief.

Grow...

the f***...

up.
 
I guess that the US has never attacked it's own? Does the U.S.S. Liberty ring any bells? LBJ "I want that god damn ship on the bottom of the ocean!"


CT Tactic, throw out another conspiracy when you are losing an argument, then hope someone brings it up so you can get them to forget the other points.

Typical
 
"Going to provide any proof for this particular lie? Even the most rabid anti-Semites blame that on the Israelis! :boggled:

And while we're at it...relevance, Milord?

I think this is a straw man argument. arugmentum ad prosper hoc...I'll let the experts on this correct me. I call it idiocy. :)"

It is just soooo easy! You people really are lost, aren't you?

You refuse to open your eyes even when high level people are stating what the truth is. I feel sorry for the stupidity you have and the blinded following you give something. This article is just ONE of many, but you will call them all "anti-semetic" or what ever! Just like pointing out things the Bush administration does is ALL "Bush Hatting". Now read and learn....


http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/
The attack has been a matter of controversy since 1967. Survivors and many key government officials including Secretary of State Dean Rusk and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Moorer say the attack was no accident. CLICK HERE to see a long list of notable officials who believe the attack was deliberate. Two Israeli officers have come forward to admit that the attack was no accident. Yet the Israeli government and its supporters insist it was a "tragic case of misidentification" and charge that survivors and their eyewitness supporters are lying.
(If you have RealAudio, click on Admiral Moorer's picture at the left and hear what he has to say about the attack.) Please read Admiral Moorer's statement on the 30th anniversary of the massacre by CLICKING HERE.

Admiral Moorer, together with Jim Ennes made stirring speeches at a forum held in Washington, DC on Sept. 7, 1985. You can hear this 16-minute file of the speeches in an .MP3 file.
To hear the file, CLICK HERE
 
"Just to rub some salt in here:

Just think, RemovedBrain. A lowly electrical tech can figure out how to use the quote function. Why can't an engineer of such supreme intelligence as yourself not do the same?

Just asking questions!"

I can.... It's just simpler to copy the comment and paste it than going through all the other crap I have to for the "quote".

If its that hard for you... Here is a clue.... Just look for " in the beging and the end of what is being quoted.... This has been used for HUNDREDS of years and it has worked just fine all that time!
 
Hey, RB:

Not a second you spend on any of this is going to result in "RemoveBush" any earlier than when the gentleman's term expires on January 20, 2008. How does that make you feel? Inconsequential?

Good.
 
I can.... It's just simpler to copy the comment and paste it than going through all the other crap I have to for the "quote".

If its that hard for you... Here is a clue.... Just look for " in the beging and the end of what is being quoted.... This has been used for HUNDREDS of years and it has worked just fine all that time!

Sockboy,

Candles have been used for lighting for hundreds, nay THOUSANDS of years and they have worked just fine all that time! One must wonder why you became an "electronics" engineer rather than a candle engineer.
 
RemoveBush: Why can't you, an alleged college educated person, construct a coherent sentence? Why can't you develop a logical argument? Why can't you use the quote function?
Because he's a twoofer. Incoherent babble and poorly constructed replies are all they can manage.
 
"Just to rub some salt in here:

Just think, RemovedBrain. A lowly electrical tech can figure out how to use the quote function. Why can't an engineer of such supreme intelligence as yourself not do the same?

Just asking questions!"

I can.... It's just simpler to copy the comment and paste it than going through all the other crap I have to for the "quote".

If its that hard for you... Here is a clue.... Just look for " in the beging and the end of what is being quoted.... This has been used for HUNDREDS of years and it has worked just fine all that time!

But, if you use the quote function, others can follow the thread back to the original quote!

See how it says who said it at the top? If you click it, it will take you to the original post.

If it's too hard for you, I understand. After all, you're an engineer!
 
"Provide evidence of this. The NIST investigators and every other structural engineer in the world disagree with you."

Another EXAMPLE of YOU taking what YOU percieve as being the TRUTH and TWISTING it to fit your needs. There are PLENTY of structural/mechanical engineers who do not believe the official story.

Just quickly are some below!

"Alex Floum, Prof. Marcus Ford,
Derrick Grimmer (Ph.D.), Prof.
Richard McGinn, Kimberly Moore,
Robert Moore, Joseph Phelps
(MS, PE; structural engineering),
Prof. Diana Ralph, Robert
Stevens, Lon Waters (Ph.D.) and
Prof. Paul Zarembka."
 
I'm still waiting on the lies about USS Liberty and the DNA forgeries.

I'm still waiting for the evidence he promised yesterday that the WTC towers were "hermetically sealed" - seriously, he really said that!
 
If they were hermetically sealed, wouldn't that ruin his argument about the salt in the air?



They were hermetically sealed on in a mayonaise jar on the back porch of Funk and Wagnalls.
 

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