Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[tsig]

It is often work to obtain the proof.

Pruf is work indeed

die, die, die

let it die.

How many stakes does it take till he knows

That the vampire is really dead

The answer my friends

is written by you

And is truely written in the wind.

 

[Ketyk]

I apologize for not reading all the past 10,000+ post before this.

Maybe Christophera can answer a small question I have.

Which tower fell first, and why? I always get the North Tower mixed up with the South Tower, and actually don't know which was WTC1 and which was WTC2. I should know, but don't, so any help would be appreciated.

 

[Oliver]

I apologize for not reading all the past 10,000+ post before this.

Maybe Christophera can answer a small question I have.

Which tower fell first, and why? I always get the North Tower mixed up with the South Tower, and actually don't know which was WTC1 and which was WTC2. I should know, but don't, so any help would be appreciated.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



...another 5000-posts question...

 

[tsig]

I apologize for not reading all the past 10,000+ post before this.

Maybe Christophera can answer a small question I have.

Which tower fell first, and why? I always get the North Tower mixed up with the South Tower, and actually don't know which was WTC1 and which was WTC2. I should know, but don't, so any help would be appreciated.

Apolagy NOT accepted.

Why would you think we would acept it!

I like rabbit fur coats

 

[Christophera]

I apologize for not reading all the past 10,000+ post before this.

Maybe Christophera can answer a small question I have.

Which tower fell first, and why? I always get the North Tower mixed up with the South Tower, and actually don't know which was WTC1 and which was WTC2. I should know, but don't, so any help would be appreciated.

WTC 2, the south tower fell first although WTC 1 was hit first on the north side, it fell north. The first tower hit was hit near center with most of the fuel entering the tower to burn. The second tower to be hit, WTC 2, was almost missed, being hit on the south east corner, only one engine contacted the concrete core and most of the fuel burned outside of the tower in a midair firebal, the tower fell east.

BTW, the very top of WTC 1 fell south and the very top of WTC 2 fell west

 

[Christophera]

You've lost, Chris. Go away

The fact that cat pictures and baking recipes with pitiful erroneous claims instead of raw evidence of steel core columns are posted, proves the opposite is, ............ indeed the fact.

 

[Christophera]

No problem proving how many interior box columns were cut at uniform lengths with square cut ends.

You're funny, chris. We can clearly see different lenghts on your picture.

Of course there are different lengths dummy, but look how many are the same. duh

And the ones the same length look like this on the ends.

Sheared Columns​

 

[defaultdotxbe]

WTC 2, the south tower fell first although WTC 1 was hit first on the north side, it fell north. The first tower hit was hit near center with most of the fuel entering the tower to burn. The second tower to be hit, WTC 2, was almost missed, being hit on the south east corner, only one engine contacted the concrete core and most of the fuel burned outside of the tower in a midair firebal, the tower fell east.

BTW, the very top of WTC 1 fell south and the very top of WTC 2 fell west

you forgot to mention WTC2 was hit about 15 stories lower than WTC1 (which means 15 stories more weight bearing down on the damaged section)

 

[Christophera]

you forgot to mention WTC2 was hit about 15 stories lower than WTC1 (which means 15 stories more weight bearing down on the damaged section)

True, but it also mean 15 times stronger at that level which is why the towers stood for 33 years. All structures logically must be designed this way. They were built 6 times stronger than they needed to be if I remember correctly.

The concrete core was there to resist torsion from the occasional hurricane force winds which justified the high strength.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

True, but it also mean 15 times stronger at that level which is why the towers stood for 33 years. All structures logically must be designed this way. They were built 6 times stronger than they needed to be if I remember correctly.

The concrete core was there to resist torsion from the occasional hurricane force winds which justified the high strength.

so your sayign the concrete core of your got thicker as it went down? (or rather thinne as it went up)

 

[twinstead]

The record for the longest thread by an op who was demonstrably wrong before the end of the first page.

Call Guinness.

Or drink it. Whatever.

 

[Curnir]

True, but it also mean 15 times stronger at that level which is why the towers stood for 33 years. All structures logically must be designed this way. They were built 6 times stronger than they needed to be if I remember correctly.

The concrete core was there to resist torsion from the occasional hurricane force winds which justified the high strength.

I'm sorry but that made no sense at all.

 

[Christophera]

I'm sorry but that made no sense at all.

At least twinstead the muse is drunk, he has an excuse. You haven't even provided a simpletons explanation.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

 

[Christophera]

so your sayign the concrete core of your got thicker as it went down? (or rather thinne as it went up)

Yes. There was a serious sacrifice of floor space to accomodate the concrete core with its 17 foot thick walls (on the narrow axis end, 12 on the long axis). At the top it was only 2 feet thick as this image showing 1/4 of the core footprint from the top of tower 2 as it falls on WTC 3

NARROW AXIS SIDE
http://www-ifm.math.uni-hannover.de/~kadir/images/tradeben.jpg
LONG AXIS SIDE
http://misheli.image.pbase.com/o2/78/583378/1/52419073.wtclobby.jpg
http://www.newyork-net.de/images/WorldTradeCenter_Lobby.jpg

 

[chacal]

I haven't followed this thread because I think it should be moved to a psychology subforum. Can I ask you Christophera are there any other persons in the world that would agree or support your concretecorism? Anybody other than you alone?

For those who are not familiar with 17feet = 5.1816m. I didn't find that wall in your photo's Chris.

 

[Arus808]

May I remind those still arguing with Chris, that within 10,000 posts he has presented nothing that supports his claims. So please, no more.

Cats and recipes only

Cause you're boring Max

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[Christophera]

I haven't followed this thread because I think it should be moved to a psychology subforum. Can I ask you Christophera are there any other persons in the world that would agree or support your concretecorism? Anybody other than you alone?

For those who are not familiar with 17feet = 5.1816m. I didn't find that wall in your photo's Chris.

Considering we've passed 10k posts and 150k views; and there still is not one image of a steel core column at some elevation above ground in the core area shown in an image from the demo; there is a good chance about 50k people do but it's still unconscious for them.

They keep seeing these cat pictures and stupid posts of the deniers and realize, sheeit there IS NO EVIDENCE for steel core columns so the naysayers are just working to bury the truth in garbage.

 

[maccy]

I haven't looked into this thread for ages, but I'm glad to see that it's on its way out, finally.

If anybody wants to ignore this thread completely, you can go to the user cp in the menu above and click "Edit Options" from the side menu. Under "Thread Display Options" there's an option to "Hide Threads by Members on your Ignore List". If you change that option to yes and add Christophera to your ignore list, this thread will disappear.

I find it much easier to not get involved, this way.

 

[The Doc]

They keep seeing these cat pictures and stupid posts of the deniers and realize, sheeit there IS NO EVIDENCE for steel core columns so the naysayers are just working to bury the truth in garbage.

I am not reading 240+ pages worth of posts - so I'll ask directly. Do you really believe that the core was concrete and not steel?

I may have misread you but it looks like that's what you're saying...

 

[maccy]

I am not reading 240+ pages worth of posts - so I'll ask directly. Do you really believe that the core was concrete and not steel?

I may have misread you but it looks like that's what you're saying...

I'm going to put this thread on ignore again soon, but before I go I'll say that this is indeed what Chris believes and also that it was built for demolition with C4 coated rebar. Chris also believes in a lot of other strange things (including that the illuminati are revealing themselves to him by putting the numbers 22, 23 and 24 in receipts and correspondence and suchlike).

It is clear that he will not change his mind on the matter of the concrete core.

Many of us have come to the conclusion that Chris has a mental illness and that confronting him cannot help.

I strongly suggest that you don't engage Chris in an argument.

There's a shorter thread that gives some insight into Chris' state of mind here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69171