Truthers Take On NIST

[sophia8]

Bit of a naff website. Not really very convincing.

And there's no portfolio of his work, no mention of training, qualifications and experience, no bio. None of the stuff you'd expect to see on a proffessional's website.

 

[28th Kingdom]

28th,

Just because a few kids on the Loose Change forum are "waking up" doesn't count for anything, and neither do you.

Go outside, into the real world and you'll come to the shock realization that no one is buying into your crap.

28 pages against the official story, which all contain ridiculous errors and the official story is crumbling? Come on!

Last I checked Alex Jones said your movement was dying. Wake up buddy, you're going no where and 20 years from now you'll still be mouthing off on internet forums because that's as far as your story has gotten.

The 9/11 Truth movement has p*ssed off the victims and first responders at Ground Zero but that's as far as you have, and ever will have gotten.

Maybe you're the one in the coma...who could use a good dose of reality.

http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/23968.exclude.html

Charlie Sheen gave America the perfect chance to show what they think about Alex Jones and his nutty beliefs. Well, 54,000 of them spoke up AND 83% AGREE WITH CHARLIE SHEEN that the USG covered up the events of 9/11.

I'm sure you will make a joke about Charlie Sheen, even though this has little to do with him. It's the American people who voted in these two polls...

 

[The Doc]

Haha! Wizard. Stooped that low have you? Can't debate the facts so you bring up something that happened with me on another board (which I very rarely post on anymore) over a month ago.

Which is actually very funny because it was pdhorety who was following those events in the first place. So what does that say... Mr Dhorety.

28th.

Zogby - http://www.debunking911.com/zogby.htm
The CNN Poll - Do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of the 9/11 attacks?

Where does that indicate "Inside Job". Some people believe Flight 93 was shot down. That doesn't mean it was planned or let to happen. This isn't a black or white issue.

 

[Wizard]

Haha! Wizard. Stooped that low have you? Can't debate the facts so you bring up something that happened with me on another board (which I very rarely post on anymore) over a month ago.

Which is actually very funny because it was pdhorety who was following those events in the first place. So what does that say... Mr Dhorety.

28th.

Zogby - http://www.debunking911.com/zogby.htm
The CNN Poll - Do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of the 9/11 attacks?

Where does that indicate "Inside Job". Some people believe Flight 93 was shot down. That doesn't mean it was planned or let to happen. This isn't a black or white issue.

How was Pdoherty involved?

 

[The Doc]

http://www.belowtopsecret.com/thread233578/pg1

First poster - Pdohrety76.

Caught out buddy.

 

[Wizard]

http://www.belowtopsecret.com/thread233578/pg1

First poster - Pdohrety76.

Caught out buddy.

I just googled your name LOL i've never used the foroms and if i was pdoh I would hardly quote my own threads.

I love this bit:

My post over at Randi was downright appauling and stupid. I regret ever posting there and I sincerley regret any attempt at insulting the intelligence of anyone at ATS.

I am working to change my ways. And you have my assurance that this will be done .

1) Your a troll

2) Should I get your coat? You regret ever posting here

 

[28th Kingdom]

Zogby - http://www.debunking911.com/zogby.htm
The CNN Poll - Do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of the 9/11 attacks?

Where does that indicate "Inside Job". Some people believe Flight 93 was shot down. That doesn't mean it was planned or let to happen. This isn't a black or white issue.

"Some have argued that some leaders in the U.S. government knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to take action. Do you agree or disagree with this argument?"

The debunkers...are some incredibly desperate people. "Where does it say the administration blew up the WTC? Where does it say "The administration knew the time, place and date of the attack and did nothing"? Where does it say the administration had a conspiracy to destroy the WTC?"

Where, Einstein? Right here....U.S. government knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001.
Just because everyone can't conceive of how the USG might carry out the attacks...doesn't mean they can't all agree on one thing. And that is the fact that the USG knew 9/11 was going to happen, when and where it did...and they CONSCIOUSLY failed to stop it.

Whether the USG hired the 19 hijackers as decoys...and used drone planes...whether the USG paid the 19 to actually fly the planes or whether the USG knew about the 19 and their plans...and simply didn't act because they wanted 9/11 to happen, the fact remains...over half of New Yorkers and 83% of those polled on CNN, believe the USG is covering up the real-events of 9/11. And that, the USG CONSCIOUSLY failed to stop 9/11.

You left-brain people need everything spelled out for you. Don't reply to that line...just reply to the facts, which you are so desperately denying.

 

[beachnut]

Maybe you're the one in the coma...who could use a good dose of reality.

http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/23968.exclude.html

Charlie Sheen gave America the perfect chance to show what they think about Alex Jones and his nutty beliefs. Well, 54,000 of them spoke up AND 83% AGREE WITH CHARLIE SHEEN that the USG covered up the events of 9/11.

I'm sure you will make a joke about Charlie Sheen, even though this has little to do with him. It's the American people who voted in these two polls...

Charlie Sheen the high school dropout! on CNN show biz tonight a scientific pole for sure, fur sure

The NAZIs voted, they were wrong, and it appear voting is not wise when physics will do better!

Let us vote 2+2=4, but the nut case with Charlie come up with 3, you are nuts too.

Charlie Sheen's facts are still hiding in Al Gore's lock box, safe for the big one!

Charlie Sheen and Alex Jones, two dumb guys, no brains, no facts, no lie.

 

[Wizard]

Do you still stand by this Fungi?

My assumptions and generalizations are a thing of the past. From now on I am treating everyone as an individual as opposed to a group. Different people believe different things and sometimes there are bad apples in a group of wonderful people. With that respect I can assure you that although the majority of truth seekers are working for the good of their nation, alot of them are push an agenda. The thing is, however, I will no longer assume that all truth seekers are pushing an agenda.

No longer will I refer to anyone as a "CT'er" or a "9/11 Denier". But with the same respect I also hope that people will no longer accuse me of being an agent, call me a NeoCon or a traitor.

Unbelievable what you find when you put a name into google

 

[beachnut]

"

You left-brain people need everything spelled out for you. Don't reply to that line...just reply to the facts, which you are so desperately denying.

Most of us use all of our brains; this is why we do not fall for junk of CT lies, or are able to find real facts.

After reading your posts, you do not have a brain able to find facts!

good luck,

 

[maccy]

Eric Douglas - Architect?

I found this guy in less than a minute.

Bit of a naff website. Not really very convincing.

and not that we should draw any premature conclusions but....



ahem

I hope, for that guy's sake, that it is really him. If it is not, and if the guy at the link is a legitimate architect, etc. and is not the author of the crappy paper, his reputation is going to be trashed as a result of a crappy paper written by someone else aligning himself with the troofers. Of course, if it is really him, he deserves the trashing.

(That said, the linked website is pretty lame and I certainly wouldn't contract his services to design even a deck at my cottage let alone anything else on the basis of that site. Most legitimate architects would actually provide credentials, office address, fax numbers, CV, details on their education, expertise and experience, etc. so I am instantly doubtful about this whole thing. Alas, it is late so the rest of this will have to wait until tomorrow, but suffice it to say that like nearly all of the other "experts" that align themselves with troofers, they always seem to fall short in the details, and always seem to be pretty obscure. Of course, I'll revisit that if evidence to the contrary is provided, but those are my initial reactions.)

ok, you're nobody

btw

american institue of architect has no listing for an 'eric douglas' and douglas architecture is actually.....

http://www.douglasarchitects.com/

Not that we should jump to any premature conclusions though...

There's another Douglas Architecture in New Jersey:

http://www.archiplanet.org/wiki/Douglas-Architecture_and_Planning,_Linwood,_New_Jersey,_USA
http://www.architectureweek.com/directory/firms.cgi?11975

The domain douglasarchitecture.com was registered on Aug 8 2006:

http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=douglasarchitecture.com&prog_id=godaddy

The address given by Eric in making the registration appears to be his home address:

http://phone.people.yahoo.com/py/lg...each&state=NY&zip=11414-2802&phone=7187381488

It's quite close to JFK Airport:

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?addr=15633+94th+St&city=Howard+Beach&state=NY&zip=11414-2802

A quick look at google earth seems to confirm that this is a residential address.

The phone number on the website 917-292-0355 is a cellphone:

http://www.bennetyee.org/ucsd-pages/area.html#917

Also he lists his full name as Eric Scott Douglas. A bit of googling later, I find http://www.ericscottdouglas.com/ which is registered to the same Eric Douglas:

http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=ericscottdouglas.com&prog_id=godaddy


Here is his resume:

http://www.ericscottdouglas.com/Resume.HTM

He has a BA in Architecture from UC Berkley but no professional experience as an Architect, he's been employed mainly as a drafter.

Edited to Add:

His resume looks to be seriously out of date as it has him working as a drafter for an Architecture Firm in Oakland, CA since July 2001. Nevertheless, I don't think he's an architect.

The A.B. degree is not a professional degree and is not recognized by the National Architectural Accrediting Board. The Master of Architecture is the only accredited professional degree offered by the department. However, at present the degree is accepted for partial credit toward licensure in California by the State Board of Architectural Examiners. It is generally not accepted in other states.

Source: http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/programs/undergraduate

 

[Gravy]

I just googled your name LOL i've never used the foroms and if i was pdoh I would hardly quote my own threads.

You are pdoherty/docker/laith/jessicarabbit et al, but your secret is safe with me. We can also work out a paypal arrangement if you don't want to have each sock puppet outed. It must be a pain for you.

 

[Wizard]

Fungi do you stand by this?

Cheers

Cheers Pepper

I respect your decision to doubt the official story, god knows I do to in some respects

In what ways do you doubt the official story?

 

[Wizard]

You are pdoherty/docker/laith/jessicarabbit et al, but your secret is safe with me. We can also work out a paypal arrangement if you don't want to have each sock puppet outed. It must be a pain for you.

Gravy you are wrong. I am not pdoherty.

 

[beachnut]

we voted you are

 

[The Doc]

In what ways to I doubt the official story? At the time I posted that I had doubts about Flight 93. I thought it may have been shot down. I no longer believe that.

"It's safe to go back to work". Would be one aspect of the official story I doubt.

I believe there was a lot of incompetance, not involvement.

As for standing by my statement, you damn well bet I don't.

 

[Gravy]

Gravy you are wrong. I am not pdoherty.

The omniscient JREF ninjas are not easily fooled, my unworthy adversary. We know things.

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[Wizard]

In what ways to I doubt the official story? At the time I posted that I had doubts about Flight 93. I thought it may have been shot down. I no longer believe that.

"It's safe to go back to work". Would be one aspect of the official story I doubt.

I believe there was a lot of incompetance, not involvement.

As for standing by my statement, you damn well bet I don't.

You are possibly the most disingenuous troll I have ever encountered.

You said that a month ago.

 

[Wizard]

The omniscient JREF ninjas are not easily fooled, my unworthy adversary. We know things.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/87904589bb2639dbc.jpg​

Well you better tell Boloboffin what you know because he said I was killtown earlier

 

[The Doc]

Opinions can't change in a month?

Look Wizard - You've done enough to derail this thread.

You are the Troll my friend. You've exposed yourself as pdohrety and you've done a terrible job at hiding it.