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WTC Discussion: Core Column Temperature & Failure.

defaultdotxbe said:
let me give you an illustration

and elephant is placed on you shoulders, with posts extending to the ground to hold the weight, then you are shot in the leg, despite this injuray you remain standing and the posts support the elephants weight, then the posts are knocked down and all the elephants weight is on your shoulders

what happens now?

A: because there is no falling weight you good leg and injured leg continue to hold the elephants weight

B: you collapse like a sack of pototoes
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Please, remove yourself from my thread...you have rendered yourself completely useless...the same goes for Stateofgrace, Horatis and anyone else who wants to constantly crack jokes instead of discussing this topic...there are other forums you can play in...this isn't one of them.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Please, remove yourself from my thread...you have rendered yourself completely useless...the same goes for Stateofgrace, Horatis and anyone else who wants to constantly crack jokes instead of discussing this topic...there are other forums you can play in...this isn't one of them.
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28th Kingdom said:
Please, remove yourself from my thread...you have rendered yourself completely useless...the same goes for Stateofgrace, Horatis and anyone else who wants to constantly crack jokes instead of discussing this topic...there are other forums you can play in...this isn't one of them.
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Please lay out the ground rules next time you start a thread.
 
Hey 28th, if you ever get around to it I have a thread up asking for specifics on why NIST is wrong. Take a look if you want to have a serious discussion.
 
Horatius said:
He's mostly better now. I think his previous family didn't do a good job of socializing him. The first 6 months I had him were pretty violent, but he's settled down now, except for the occasional lapse. The 23rd is our aniversary!
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I would really like to get into this... but in light of IQ28's previous post...

But yeah, let's get into this.

How old is your cat? And what is his/her name?
 
28th Kingdom said:
Please, remove yourself from my thread...you have rendered yourself completely useless...the same goes for Stateofgrace, Horatis and anyone else who wants to constantly crack jokes instead of discussing this topic...there are other forums you can play in...this isn't one of them.
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this from the guy who drops anvils on eggs and thinks an asteroid could hit the WTC and not hurt it
 
The problem is...we know the buildings fell...since all of you are working from the premise that it's impossible for explosives/therma/ite to have been involved...of course you are going to trick yourself into believing a fallacy. Why? BECAUSE WE KNOW THE BUILDINGS FELL...so it's not so hard to assume....THAT IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE BUILDINGS TO FALL.

But, if you choose to omit certain crucial factors and/or variables (like explosives) you are setting up a mental blindspot, which is preventing you from seeing the truth.

This is exactly what happened to NIST...they didn't even test for explosive residue on the steel they recovered from ground zero...which shows you they were working with crippled information. Crippled information equals crippled analysis equals crippled theories.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Please, remove yourself from my thread...you have rendered yourself completely useless...the same goes for Stateofgrace, Horatis and anyone else who wants to constantly crack jokes instead of discussing this topic...there are other forums you can play in...this isn't one of them.
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"Please stop pointing out the insanity of my posts."

When will you learn that we don't have to play by your rules?

We've tried to discuss the topic, but you either ignore our well-reasoned responses, or dismiss them by saying "Scientific!"

Why waste time trying to answer you seriously when you won't respond with anything other than absurdities? At least I know cat pictures don't advance science. You are still under some delusion that your posts do.

And remember, you've lost the right to be taken seriously. You know what you have to do to regain that right.
 
There was no proof of explosives for them to test. Is that going to be the new policy now? Everytime a building collapses you have to test for explosives and conspiracy theories? Please address the thread I have up by the way...you seem as if you may have the answer.
 
Bell said:
I would really like to get into this... but in light of IQ28's previous post...

But yeah, let's get into this.

How old is your cat? And what is his/her name?
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He's just under 2 years. He was about 10months when I got him, one year ago this saturday. His name is Hector. Don't ask me why, it just popped into my head when I saw him, so I figured that must be his name :)

I've officially declared this Saturday Hector Day in his honour.
 
Quad, baba...you are welcome. Hor, State, Default and all the rest of you need to move along, because I am trying to accomplish something important here. There are chat forums you can play in. I don't like any of you, I don't want to talk with any of you, if you reply to this thread again, you will all be put on my ignore list indefinitely, so now you are only hurting those who actually have an interest in discussing these serious topics.
 
28th Kingdom said:
The problem is...we know the buildings fell...since all of you are working from the premise that it's impossible for explosives/therma/ite to have been involved...of course you are going to trick yourself into believing a fallacy. Why? BECAUSE WE KNOW THE BUILDINGS FELL...so it's not so hard to assume....THAT IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE BUILDINGS TO FALL.

But, if you choose to omit certain crucial factors and/or variables (like explosives) you are setting up a mental blindspot, which is preventing you from seeing the truth.

This is exactly what happened to NIST...they didn't even test for explosive residue on the steel they recovered from ground zero...which shows you they were working with crippled information. Crippled information equals crippled analysis equals crippled theories.
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explosives leave very obvious physical traces that you can see (with your eyes, just so we're clear on this) that were not present at the WTC

why bother with chemical testing, if the physical traces (you know, the actual DAMAGE done by the explosives) isnt present?

as far as thermite, how does it cut a vertical column again?
 
28th Kingdom said:
Quad, baba...you are welcome. Hor, State, Default and all the rest of you need to move along, because I am trying to accomplish something important here. There are chat forums you can play in. I don't like any of you, I don't want to talk with any of you, if you reply to this thread again, you will all be put on my ignore list indefinitely, so now you are only hurting those who actually have an interest in discussing these serious topics.
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OHNOES!!!1!!!
 
28th Kingdom said:
Quad, baba...you are welcome. Hor, State, Default and all the rest of you need to move along, because I am trying to accomplish something important here. There are chat forums you can play in. I don't like any of you, I don't want to talk with any of you, if you reply to this thread again, you will all be put on my ignore list indefinitely, so now you are only hurting those who actually have an interest in discussing these serious topics.
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I'm sorry, but you do not own this thread, nor this forum. You have demonstrated no willingness to discuss anything that interferes with your fantasy. You'll have to deal witht he fact that you've made some of the dumbest comments ewcver made in this forum, and that is saying a lot.

Face it: We're not laughing with you.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Please, remove yourself from my thread...you have rendered yourself completely useless...the same goes for Stateofgrace, Horatis and anyone else who wants to constantly crack jokes instead of discussing this topic...there are other forums you can play in...this isn't one of them.
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You forgot to say Simon says (again).

Translation, please stop bothering me with stuff that makes sense, I want to indulge in my paranoid fantasies, so please leave me alone.

Sob, sob, where is my mates?

YOU accuse innocent people of mass murder.

YOU do so with no evidence.

YOU are mocking this event.

YOU will be mocked, you will be belittled, you will be exposed as the liar you are. If you will not address what has been said to you repeatedly and you will not address your critics, then leave.
 
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28th Kingdom said:
But, if you choose to omit certain crucial factors and/or variables (like explosives) you are setting up a mental blindspot, which is preventing you from seeing the truth.
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You see, this is what Hector and I are on about. Here you are, once again pretending we haven't addressed the issue of what sorts of evidence we'd expect there to be is explosives were used, which evidence is entirely lacking.




Show me even one video that has these obvious sounds. Show me even one video that has obvious, coordinated flashes.

No one reported anything that would lead us to expect that explosives were used, so why would we waste time and effort looking for something that almost certainly wasn't there?

Now get on with ignoring this well-reasoned post, and complain about my cat again.
 
28th Kingdom said:
how did the 37 core columns all start buckling in the span of one second....apparently continuing to buckle and snap at every floor, all the way down some 80+ floors. How can we explain this?
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Well they didn't. They only failed for about 20 floors, because a good 60+ floors of core column remained standing.

Keep up!

-Gumboot
 
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