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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

28th Kingdom said:
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary..."
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An almost perfect description of this video



Jones says the Madrid hotel didn't collapse due to fire, while they were showing the video of the steel framed portion of the hotel collapsing.

And you think a casual usage of a simile in an informal document is somehow a better example?

Keep up the doublethink, you're getting quite good at it. Nice to see you're good at something.
 
28th, am I correct, based upon your continued dodging and weaving, that you will not be presenting a formalized argument/proof of any kind supporting your claims?
 
LOL. 28th Kindom those quotes about doublespeak are about YOU.

Face it. There are those who are every bit as intelligent, world-aware, compassionate, and free thinking as you who TOTALLY disagree with not only your theories, but your very world view.

To come to that conclusion as an adult would be pretty freaky.
 
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How to achive nirvana

28th kingdom.. Pour a puddle of brake fluid in the palm of your right hand. With your other hand scoop up a palm full of granulated chlorine. Now put your hands together and try and mush them all together into a paste.. report back to me.
 
A W Smith said:
28th kingdom.. Pour a puddle of brake fluid in the palm of your right hand. With your other hand scoop up a palm full of granulated chlorine. Now put your hands together and try and mush them all together into a paste.. report back to me.
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My brother and his school mate once did something similar to this and managed to burn a fair portion of a national park. So I wouldn't really recommend it.
 
28th Kingdom said:
When you become enlightened....you realize that you are one with it all.
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Hmm. So Doc, on your psychiatric skills, heretofore hidden (MAN am I glad I stuck this thread out might never have known we had a Real Sawbones onboard), are you advising:

We should get in touch with our inner thermate?

What if my inner thermate makes a diagonal cut across my spinal cord, will I be paralyzed from the patella down, or just the 2nd joint of my middle left toe?
 
28th Kingdom said:
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."
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Thank god I wasn't using the drugs these guys were...

"His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully-constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them; to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy; to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the art of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the world [sic] 'doublethink' involved using doublethink."

Read those and tell me your head doesn't ache. That's the power of this warped mentality.
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No that is the power of verbal diarrh...I mean verbal gymnastics.

And enlightened or not, I am not one with it all. I am a distinct collection of hydrocarbons. The energy that exists within me can not be created or destroyed. When I die, the energy within be will be released, not destroyed. The kinetic energy will disipate as heat, the potential energy to be consumed either by fire as fuel, or by bugs as fuel...EOS.

I'll skip the bong...thanks.

TAM;)
 
T.A.M. said:
Thank god I wasn't using the drugs these guys were...



No that is the power of verbal diarrh...I mean verbal gymnastics.

And enlightened or not, I am not one with it all. I am a distinct collection of hydrocarbons. The energy that exists within me can not be created or destroyed. When I die, the energy within be will be released, not destroyed. The kinetic energy will disipate as heat, the potential energy to be consumed either by fire as fuel, or by bugs as fuel...EOS.

I'll skip the bong...thanks.

TAM;)
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did you know the iron in your blood was formed in a supernova? :cool:
 
I have to admit that I have been through dozens of threads on several forums where someone claimed 9/11 was an inside job but I didn't believe them. However this one was different. This was changed my whole belief system. 28th kingdom, you have shaken up my world! I am now convinced the 9/11 could never have been an inside job, no chance no how!
 
28th Kingdom said:
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth."

"His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully-constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them; to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy; to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the art of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the world [sic] 'doublethink' involved using doublethink."

Read those and tell me your head doesn't ache. That's the power of this warped mentality.
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Plagiarism is you new game? You lie and plagiarize?
 
To further illustrate this point: NIST claims that this material which has no visual signs of burning is composed of burned (past participle of burning - meaning it wasn't burning anymore - because if they would have used the word burning - it would read: this material which has no signs of burning is composed of burning material) organic material like computers, furniture and carpet. NIST says that burned organic material such as this displays an orange-glow. So furniture or carpet that has been burned (past tense, which means it's not burning anymore) has an orange glow to it. I thought everyone knew that materials like this which had been burned were only black due to the burning. So according, to NIST - a silvery molten aluminum mixed with black burned debris equals an orange glow.

This is a prime example of the extremes a person with dementia will go to in order to make something fit into their own warped sense of reality. The reason I made such a strong point about this - is because I scientifically proved (through max burning temps and melting points for various fuel and metal/steel contained in the towers) at why nothing in those buildings could have produced a yellow-orange glowing molten metal like that. NIST couldn't say that it was steel from the towers, because NIST knows that the fires from jet fuel and/or organic debris can't burn hot enough to melt steel - so the impossible theory they twisted together was pure Doublethink...that manufactured a belief which says that burned (not burning) organic material glows orange.
 
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28th Kingdom said:
To further illustrate this point: NIST claims that this material which has no visual signs of burning is composed of burned (past participle of burning - meaning it wasn't burning anymore - because if they would have used the word burning - it would read: this material which has no signs of burning is composed of burning material.) organic material like computers, furniture and carpet. NIST says that burned organic material such as this displays an orange-glow. So furniture or carpet that has been burned (past tense, which means it's not burning anymore) has an orange glow to it. I thought everyone knew that materials like this which had been burned were only black due to the burning. So according, to NIST - a silvery molten aluminum mixed with black burned debris equals an orange glow.

This is a prime example of the extremes a person with dementia will go to in order to make something fit into their own warped sense of reality. The reason I made such a strong point about this - is because I scientifically proved (through max burning temps and melting points for various fuel and metal/steel contained in the towers) at why nothing in those buildings could have produced a yellow-orange glowing molten metal like that. NIST couldn't say that it was steel from the towers, because NIST knows that the fires from jet fuel and/or organic debris can't burn hot enough to melt steel - so the impossible theory they twisted together was pure Doublethink...that manufactured a belief which says that burned (not burning) organic material glows orange.
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Are you able to read and comprehend? You are not making any sense. You have taken simple stuff and made up junk about it.

If you do not understand the NIST report; you do not have enough education. When you get to high school you may learn enough to understand the NIST report.

Education is the key. I assume you are in grade school.

You have failed to understand the material you are reading. No you can not take 1984 and apply a work of fiction to the NIST study. Not even a good try.

1984 is fiction. Your ideas are fiction. You are officially debunked again.
 
My Theory: Elements of the US government hired 19 arab men to take part in some kind of training/mission/operation - in the same way the FBI hired Emad Salem to take part in the 1993 WTC bombing. The FBI mislead Emad to believe he was taking part in a sting operation that was designed to thwart the bombings, but when Emad discovered that he had been intentionally mislead, he blew the whistle on the FBI, and said they knew the four men accused of the bombings - were going to try and blow up the WTC. http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc_bombing3.wmv (Note: notice how Dan Rather says the FBI were applauded for how quickly they apprehended the four suspects...much in the same way the government discovered the 19 identities of the supposed hijackers from 9/11 in less than a day)

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00617FE3A5C0C7B8EDDA90994DB494D81

There have been reports of a connection between a Pakistani ISI (CIA) chief (General Mahumd) being directly involved in the wiring of $100,000 to Mohammad Atta (lead hijacker)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?xml=0&art_id=1454238160

On Sept. 11, 2001, this ISI chief General Mahumd was in Washington meeting with US congress members and he also met with Colin Powell, Secretary of State. Mysterious September 11 Breakfast Meeting on Capitol Hill. "This meeting was described by one press report as a 'follow-up meeting' to that held in Pakistan in late August." Neither the Congressional 9-11 inquiry or the 9-11 Commission would touch this money trail from the ISI with a ten-foot pole.

So, the US government hired these 19 men to participate in some type of training/mission/operation - (the US probably mislead them about the exact intent of the operation much in the same way they lied to Emad Salem about his role in the 1993 bombings) They had these 19 men train at various US flight schools in order to create a compelling back story that meshed with the official story. The 19 men probably had no idea of the elaborate plot they were taking part in.

On 9/11 - I believe the US government simply took drone aircrafts (a la ONW) and flew them into the twin towers. I think the reason they used drone aircraft was not to save the lives of the people on board the flights, but because they couldn't find pilots who would fly the planes into buildings.

Since, the government were the ones who hired these 19 men (just like 1993 bombings) they obviously knew everything about them, so that's how they "discovered," the identities of the "hijackers" in less than a day.
 
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Your theory? Yours and probably half the other truthers out there.
When do you plan on introducing your new evidence? At least try something not seen very often, instead of the same old stuff.
 
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