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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

defaultdotxbe said:
i await your reply
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Don't worry default, 28 is right now searching all the CT websites so he can cut/paste the appropriate lies to tell you:

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kookbreaker said:
Find anywhere in the Northwoods documents where they stated they would kill US citizens. Go on.
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Here you
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Courtest is a requirement on this forum. 28th Kingdom, stop this or face sanctions.
drip:

"We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba."

"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner in route from the United States to Jamaica ... the passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday..."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
 
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Mercutio said:
1) thermite silliness? dead end--wrong color residue, no mechanism to aim sideways, no evidence of any delivery system, no precedent for demolition of this sort, utterly and wholly debunked.

2) witnesses claiming explosives? dead end--they claimed explosions, not explosives, and later recanted.

3) "free fall" nonsense? dead end--video, photographic, and seismic evidence agree with theoretical/mathematical analyses. Not merely no requirement for explosives, but evidence is inconsistent with any explosive setup.

4) molten steel lunacy? dead end--even the eyewitness statements you list are incompatible with molten steel; the best you get is "red-hot". Other accounts are second-hand and/or hyperbole.

5) which floors had explosions? dead end--7, 8, 10, 13? Your account is based solely on a misinterpretation of an eyewitness account.

6) "no plane debris at pentagon"? dead end--a drive-by attempt to derail your own thread? But then, what hasn't been? Photo, video, eyewitness evidence shows astounding ignorance on your part.

7) "no steel building has ever collapsed due to fire..."? dead end--both factually wrong and logically incoherent.

8) tilting of top portion of tower? dead end--your analysis shows ignorance of inertia, as well as presupposing the demolition of underlying floors, which was supposed to be your conclusion.

9) "pull it"? dead end--remarkable, how someone can come in here so excited to have found the truth, when something as simple as this can show that he has done absolutely no research whatsoever.

10) "Bye"? dead end--at least two drama-queen exits, and you are still here.

11) Exploding walls? dead end--video evidence clearly shows buckling of the walls rather than their exploding.
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Excuse me, 28K--could we get a quick word from you as to whether you are abandoning these former stands, now that you have moved on to quotes-"R"-us? You clearly have no evidence supporting your earlier claims on any of these items, so it would be no big deal for you to grow a pair and admit it. Then we can let these ones die and simply enjoy the quotes you dig up.

Oh...yeah, that's right--one of your earlier claims was about a quote, and that did not go well for you. Are you certain these people agree with you? Can you prove that?
 
28th Kingdom said:
Here you F****** drip:

"We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba."

"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft and attacked and shot down a charter civil airliner in route from the United States to Jamaica ... the passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday..."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
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how very dishonest of you


8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.

a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.
b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal.
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no one killed, try again

a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba.

b. We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presence of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existent crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.
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nope, no one killed here

next!
 
28K you are a moron. they were going to "Fake" such an instance with a drone aircraft.

You really are delusional.

READ THE DAMN PAPER ITSELF. GO LOOK IT UP, DOWN LOAD THE PDF and READ IT!!!!

I just did, and there is NONE, NOT A SINGLE reference to ACTUALLY KILLING US CIVILIANS/CITIZENS.

There are lots of reference to "pretending to" "faking" such things, but not once does it suggest in the paper that they ACTUALLY KILL PEOPLE.

TAM
 
28th Kingdom said:
Here you F****** drip:
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And you cannot read.

"We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba."

"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner in route from the United States to Jamaica ... the passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday..."

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
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Defaultdotxbe beat me to it.

You lose.
 
HOLY
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Courtesy is a requirement on this forum.


ARE YOU PEOPLE THAT
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See above.
DENSE?!!?!?!? THE drone plane WAS A WHOLE SEPARATE IDEA!!!! NOTICE IT HAD IT'S OWN NUMBER BY IT!!!!
 
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28th Kingdom said:
HOLY SH**********************

ARE YOU PEOPLE THAT F************ DENSE?!!?!?!? THE drone plane WAS A WHOLE SEPARATE IDEA!!!! NOTICE IT HAD IT'S OWN NUMBER BY IT!!!!
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no, your post was section 8, below it are the letters a and b (subsections of 8)

have you ever had to do an outline for a school essay?
 
We are not dense...you are. I have read the document in its entirety. I suspect there is no way you have, or you really are a mindless truther.

TAM
 
Tell me why they said this:

"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner in route from the United States to Jamaica ... the passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday..."

DO YOU SEE THE PART ABOUT COLLEGE STUDENTS AS PASSENGERS? When they say demonstrate convincingly...they mean...make it look like Cuban is the one who shot the plane down.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Tell me why they said this:

"It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner in route from the United States to Jamaica ... the passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday..."

DO YOU SEE THE PART ABOUT COLLEGE STUDENTS AS PASSENGERS? When they say demonstrate convincingly...they mean...make it look like Cuban is the one who shot the plane down.
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read the rest of the section, the "college student" are traveling under "carefully prepared aliases" and will be evacuated befor eht drone is blown up

if its a separate plan why is it 8a/b and not 9?
 
ok 28K, let me explain it to you in grade 3 terms.

1. They choose a legitimate flight. They fill it with "alleged" college students, or they choose a flight that has a tourist contingent already on board.
2. They do a mock up of a drone aircraft to perfectly match the exterior of the chosen flight.
3. The legitimate flight is sent up into the air, as is the drone. They then safely land the legimitate aircraft and EVACUATE the passengers. Meanwhile, the drone has taken over the flight path of the original plane, and the "accident" then occurs to the drone aircraft.

Why is it we all read it this way, and only you read it so obtusely?

TAM
 
28th Kingdom is your name Kent Hovind? Because you sure do change the subject a lot when asked simple questions about your theories, or should I say the theories you have ripped off from over 9/11 CT websites. Sadly you have presented nothing new it's all been discussed before.

Anyways don't mind me on with the paranoid, delusional, tin-foil hat, 9/11 CT spam fest...

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