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This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!

Audio Interview 6/9/06: Thom Hartmann: "Are you of the opinion there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government?"

Robert Baer: "There is that possibility, the evidence points at it."

Hartmann: "And why is it not being investigated?"

Baer: "Why isn't the WMD story being investigated? Why hasn't anybody been held accountable for 9/11? We held people accountable after Pearl Harbor. Why has there been no change in command? Why have there been no political repercussions? Why has there [not been] any sort of exposure on this?"

Robert Baer – Former CIA Case Officer, Specialist in Middle East, Directorate of Operations. Awarded Career Intelligence Medal. 21-year CIA veteran.
 
28th Kingdom said:
"I knew from September 18, 2001, that the official story about 9/11 was false.

Capt. Gregory M. Zeigler, PhD, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer
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I knew from December 9, 2006, that 28th had no evidence and would consistantly lie and avoid the serious questions presented to him.

You're an exercise in futility 28th.
 
28th Kingdom said:
Regarding 9/11: "The official story could not possibly have happened. It’s not possible. It’s not operationally feasible. ... The Commission was a whitewash."

You want a lot of government officials who question the US on 9/11? This page has ALL MAINSTREAM media quotes from these people:

http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport
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What are you doing now? So they are all nuts like you? These guys got facts?

Thermite, what happened to the thermite? Did you find the real truth?
 
28th Kingdom said:
"I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up."

Raymond L. McGovern – Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates, CIA. Responsible for President’s Daily Brief (PDB) for Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1232419751782017310
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Dude! We're a forum of sceptics! Just because we don't subscribe to a loony-tunes controlled demolition conspiracy, it doesn't mean we swallow everything that comes out of the White House press office hook, line and sinker. We know (and the 911 commission knows, and the global press has widely reported) that the government agencies haven't been the most transparent in the aftermath, but hey - what's new?

Just because we don't have to do thought-experiments about explosive demolition devices that can't exist in reality, it doesn't mean we all sit and smile at everything that comes out of Fox News or Bill O'Reilly's ass!

We're SCEPTICS!
 
28K, you know what happens when you try to pull peoples' chains, don't you.






All your own ◊◊◊◊ gets flushed.
 
"I first began to suspect that 9/11 was in inside job when the Bush-Cheney Administration invaded Iraq. … We can prove that the government’s story is false."

Morgan Reynolds, PhD – Chief Economist, Department of Labor under George W. Bush 2001-2002. Former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis. Professor Emeritus, Texas A&M University.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8180123292618944278
 
28th Kingdom said:
I know...a dumb cave dweller with 19 of his close cave dwelling buddies...who somehow outsmarted the most advanced and powerful military in the world....and he didn't even have to use any weapons...this guy is GOOOOD.
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Are you really that stupid. Do you always spue off shaite that dumb. Have you even bothered to look up the education of some of the hijackers, or OBLs educaton. Or the education level of KSM. You are so godamn ignorant with a post like that.

As well, they were hardly all hiding in caves PRIOR to 9/11.

As for OBL's motive...ie what did he get out of it...

Hmm...he is now the greatest hero in modern history for all Islamic Fundamentalist/Extremists. He is the leader of the Terrorist organization deemed the biggest threat to US security...He will go down not only as a martyr, but as a hero and a legend in the hearts and minds of millions of muslims...hmmm

What did BUSH get....

Rating all time low. Likely his party will not get back into the white house in 2008. His party has lost the senate and the House. Will go down in history as the guy who lead his country into a war they couldnt win. Has his SOD resign on him before his term is over...for a "war" president this is horrible...

Shall I go on.

What did Rummy get out of it? What did Dick get out of it?

TAM
 
mattlodder said:
Where's that thermite that can cut through vertical beams again?
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Since he's never going to show us, I will once again do his homework for him.

US Patent 6 805 832

2002-07-09 US2002000191607 Filing date
2001-07-09 US2001000303949P Earliest priority date (they filed a provisional application, which usually means they have a basic idea, but haven't produced a complete working design yet)

Abstract: An improved nozzle for thermite cutting torches provides an elongated nozzle dimensioned and configured to direct a maximized flow of cutting flame to the desired cutting location on a workpiece. The nozzle includes an exterior wall defining the nozzle face having an arc dimensioned and configured to center the cutting aperture over the desired cut when the cutting torch is clamped to the workpiece. The nozzle also includes a groove for directing the flow of reaction products, thereby minimizing backpressure in the nozzle region, and eliminating the need for a standoff distance.
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From Background Summary:

What has not been disclosed in the prior art, however, is use of a thermite-based apparatus for directing or focusing a cutting flame derived from the activation of a thermite charge for the purpose of effectively focusing the cutting flame across a desired cutting location on an elongated, round or possibly rectangular workpiece, and for providing relief for reaction products, thereby preventing back pressure around the nozzle.
In spite of the foregoing known apparatus and methods for cutting material, there remains a real and substantial need for an apparatus for cutting material which employs a thermite-based charge to ensure a safe and efficient cutting action.
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Summary of the invention:

It is a further object of the present invention to provide a thermite cutting torch that may be used by clamping it against the work piece.
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Detailed Description:
Preferred materials for fabricating the nozzle 300 include high-density graphite and mineral/phenolic. High temperature plastics, such as glass-filled polyetheretherketone, may also be used.
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The workpiece-engaging surface 108 is preferably dimensioned and configured to match the surface of a workpiece. An example workpiece is a steel-reinforcement beam of a concrete wall, for example, one that must be breached by a military or law-enforcement entry team. Therefore, the workpiece-engaging surface 108 is preferably arcuate and concave, but may also be flat if a flat workpiece is to be cut.
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Not clear that this device can be used to cut a vertical column. You'd think they'd mention that explicitly. The do mention beams, which I understand to mean horizontal members. Engineers here can check me on that.

No clear statement on the dimensions of the device, but the cutting nozzle is shown to be smaller than the circular endcap of the cylindrical housing. So placing two or more in a line would not overlap the area of effect of each nozzle, resulting in incomplete cutting. Also, no indication of what thickness of material may be cut.

Time to go out and swing swords. I'll post more patent stuff later.

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28th Kingdom;2176761[B said:
Morgan Reynolds, PhD[/B]
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Finally the truth comes out about you 28th - you're a star wars beam weapon, T.V. video fakery, no planer! The circle is complete.
 
Kent1 said:
And here's what the dope said....
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/Zeigler Statement.html
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Lessee what he says:

That was when I realized that the perpetrators had made a colossal blunder in collapsing the South Tower first, rather than the North Tower, which had been hit more directly and earlier.

Another one who thinks he's a structural engineer. This has been explained a million times.

Other anomalies poured in rapidly: the hijackers' names appearing in none of the published flight passenger lists,

Idiocy. he thinks 'victim lists' presented by CNN should have the hijacker's names. Been done to death:

http://www.911myths.com/html/no_hijackers_on_the_manifests.html


BBC reports of stolen identities of the alleged hijackers or the alleged hijackers being found alive,

THe BBC corrected itself on this one. Can't these guys get any new material.

the obvious demolitions of WTC1, 2, and 7,

That is somehow magnically not Obvious engineers or demolitionists around the world.

the lack of identifiable Boeing 757 wreckage at the Pentagon,

You have GOT to be kidding me, right?

the impossibility of ordinary cell phone (as opposed to Airfone) calls being made consistently from passenger aircraft at cruising altitude,

Shame most calls were made with Airphones, eh? Oh, and some quack flying his piper cub above bumfuddle, Canada and failing to get a signal does not make for 'impossible'.

etc., etc., etc.

Nothing, nothing, nothing.

I know some dumb guys make officer, but geez. This one would have lost to dryer lint.
 
Soon you'll have quotes from every CT nut that was associated with politics. Von Beulow, Reynolds...whos next dude?
 
How can I win TAM? I told you that...if I find all these government officials and military personal who don't believe the governments 9/11 story...what you would do to them...and I was exactly right.
 
28th Kingdom said:
How can I win TAM? I told you that...if I find all these government officials and military personal who don't believe the governments 9/11 story...what you would do to them...and I was exactly right.
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how many of them beleive what you beleive? how many think the towers were brought down in a controlled demolition planned and executed by the bush administration?

no one here ever said the governments story is 100% gods own truth, but the gist of it (19 hijackers slammed planes into buildings, etc) is the truth
 
They are well known, well documented 9/11 truthers...Show me some loyal govt officials who couldnt take it any more and then whistle blew. These guys are the same fellas we argue over daily here...gotta do better.

TAM
 
This is the thread that may very well waste your time forever as your counter points and questions will go unanswered. Another Christopher Alfred Brown. 28th Kingdom You are a complete and utter fool and like Chris I will no longer waste my time with any of your posts. Consider yourself DEBUNKED by all of the above.
YOU LOSE.
Bye
 
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