Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[uruk]

The Tacoma bridge disaster had nothing to do with the steel (except that it's maximum stress load was exceeded). It had to do with the design. Most steel bridges have open lattice beam trusses that allowed the wind to pass through. The Tacoma Narrows bridge had plate girders that caused the wind to divert abouve and below the bridge that set up the oscillations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge

The WTC tower's steel "tube with in tube" and floor truss was designed to resist the wind load.
http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/small/eng-news-record.htm
Scroll down to where it says:
HOW COLUMNS WILL BE DESIGNED FOR 110-STORY BUILDINGS

 

[uruk]

Hey, great....we run America. Where's my share of the loot?


But come on Chris, you're bein funny surely. Are you really trying to claim that we do still run the US at some level? I'm sure you would have noticed!

And do you really believe a web site which refers to "England" at a time when that political entity no longer existed? That a percentage of your taxes goes straight to the UK? And no-one has ever blabbed?

Come on!

He's quoting from another crackpot's site.

Psst. The tax check is in the mail mate.

 

[Arus808]

Your not getting it Chris. Oxford University is not in the United States. It is in England.
Why would a British university be complicit to an American cover up?

Or remove reference of a supposed publication from the millions of periodicals that list all publications made? from the millions of libraries?

 

[Architect]

He's quoting from another crackpot's site.

Psst. The tax check is in the mail mate.

That's cheque, you disloyal colonial you!

It'll really confuse them all when they find out that you yanks have to pay us in sistertii.

Or was it the old wooden shekels?

 

[MG1962]

If you're silly enough to trying laying out (say) 50x25mm softwood timber floor joists at 900mm centres over a 3m span and they fail, it's not an indication that timber is crap for floors! It's a sign you should have used 150x50mm timbers at 450mm centres.

No it is evidence you should have used some 15mm compressed fibre cement, that my company just happens to make

 

[Architect]

No it is evidence you should have used some 15mm compressed fibre cement, that my company just happens to make

Is it coated in explosive?



Do they actually still make fibre board? I thought it went out with the Arc.....

 

[MG1962]

Is it coated in explosive?



Do they actually still make fibre board? I thought it went out with the Arc.....

I could arrange it for you

But without derailing this thread FC sheeting is alive and well. Feel free to PM me if you like

 

[Spindrift]

Wrong book. Keyes book was about the first book and he was too high on LSD to remember the main points.

What first book?

This one? (Lifetide by Lyall Watson who came up with the term Hundredth Monkey):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...=pd_bbs_1/002-9173614-2104808?ie=UTF8&s=books

 

[Belz...]

1.)You cannot explain what the solid object in the WTC 2 core photo is. No one can unless they call it a steel reinforced concrete core.

That's not true. I call it DUST.

Also, you might want to answer Bell's question:

If the concrete core followed the rest of the building by 7 floors, why can we see through the pictures he showed ?

 

[Belz...]

There are very tight alignments between government, the military and academia, in case you havn't noticed. We've been allowed to think that OUR informationis a priority, it is not. The secret control of informtion IS the priority and always has been.

If it's so secret, how come you know about it ?

If it's so secret, how come the author of the book you're about to mention knew about it ?

Perhaps you have not noted that there is good reason to believe that the US is still a British Colony in some ways.

So they DIDN'T win the war of independence ?

 

[MG1962]

So they DIDN'T win the war of independence ?

No - they just let you think that. otherwise you might taken up cricket or something really bad like that

 

[JimBenArm]

No - they just let you think that. otherwise you might taken up cricket or something really bad like that

Yeah, didn't you take notes in NWO school?

Whoops, wasn't supposed to say that out loud, was I?

 

[JonnyFive]

Yeah, didn't you take notes in NWO school?

Whoops, wasn't supposed to say that out loud, was I?

No, you weren't. I hope you enjoy being erased from existence.

Look on the bright side, less than 30 posts until a big party or possibly another posting of the same "CONCRETE CORE" images.

 

[Christophera]

The Tacoma bridge disaster had nothing to do with the steel (except that it's maximum stress load was exceeded). It had to do with the design. Most steel bridges have open lattice beam trusses that allowed the wind to pass through. The Tacoma Narrows bridge had plate girders that caused the wind to divert abouve and below the bridge that set up the oscillations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge

The WTC tower's steel "tube with in tube" and floor truss was designed to resist the wind load.
http://guardian.150m.com/wtc/small/eng-news-record.htm
Scroll down to where it says:
HOW COLUMNS WILL BE DESIGNED FOR 110-STORY BUILDINGS

You still haven't produced one image showing any of the supposed steel core columns at some elevation above ground from the demo images. This, ... while an entire web page having numerous images of the concrete is right here.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

 

[JonnyFive]

You still haven't produced one image showing any of the supposed steel core columns at some elevation above ground from the demo images. This, ... while an entire web page having numerous images of the concrete is right here.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

Soooo... first you ask us to show you images of the steel columns. We do that, so you ask us to show images from "some elevation above ground." We do that, so now it's "some elevation above ground from the demo images."

Man, you must be a killer at soccer defense. You can move the goalposts and everything.

 

[uruk]

You still haven't produced one image showing any of the supposed steel core columns at some elevation above ground from the demo images. This, ... while an entire web page having numerous images of the concrete is right here.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

So, you're still trying to divert attention away from your blatant error and lie.

O.k tell you what. Show me a picture of the concrete core going up ahead of the steel work in WTC1 and I'll repost ALL those pictures of the Steel core columns we've been posting and you've been ignoring.

And Chris. That's one website compared to hundred of websites mentioning and showing the steel core.

 

[Arus808]

Christophera,

When are you going to address that the Oxford University Press has never published a book called the Oxford Encyclopeodia of Innovation and Technology or anythinng similar to that title?

How that no periodical in the 10 libraries I've been, doesn't make note of such book.

How the term C4 could have been used in 1967 when it was only available to soldiers in Vietnam in the late 60's early 70's?

I've yet to see an answer from you on this.

 

[Spektator]

Ever hear of a book called "The Hundredth Monkey"? 10,000 were printed in 1962. In 10 years of trying to find one person who has even seen it, I have not. Ever hear of "book burnings"? Why did they do that? Is there a modern equivilant? What does it look like?

The 1962, 1963, and 1964 Books in Print volumes do not list any volume under that title.

More, the original researcher, Masao Kawai, first published his description of the spread of a behavior among Japanese macaques in Primates, a journal of primatology, in the year 1963 (4:113-115). More, the idea that the behavior spread among 100 monkeys apparently originated in the book Lifetide, by Lyall Watson, published in 1979. More, Kawai never described the behavior spreading among 100 monkeys. It peaked when 36 out of a troop of 59 monkeys picked up the behavior. There was no tipping point, no flash when suddenly all the monkeys knew the behavior. So how could a book dealing with the phenomenon of the "hundredth monkey" more or less similar to the tale told in Ken Keyes' book of that title appear the year before any research on the phenomenon at all had been published and seventeen years before the number 100 drifted into the discussion?

You are mistaken.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

1.)You cannot explain what the solid object in the WTC 2 core photo is. No one can unless they call it a steel reinforced concrete core. The fact is suppported by a number of other pieces of raw information as well as the reports of Ph.d's

I think that someone explained it as steel columns with debris in between. What other pieces of "raw information" support your claim? Who are these "Ph.d's"?

The construction photos do not show steel core columns because steel core columns are strong enough to survive and be seen in the demo photos. None are seen meaning they didn't exist.

Are you planning on offering any proof that core columns would have been strong enough to survive the collapse? They would only have had to be 67% stronger than "interior box columns" if they had to support 50% rather than 30% of the weight (and what is your source for the 20% concrete/30% "interior box column" load distribution anyway?).

if you ignore critical information as you do, because you are not interested in the truth, you have an agenda to prove something no matter what, meaning you are not going to be able to use the evidence properly. I would prefer that our government not be infiltated and thatthe towers were not demolished, but this is not the case. I can face it, you cannot.

Statements like this are the reason this thread is so entertaining.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

In which direction are you claiming the "wall" was 17 feet wide?

Since Christophera won't answer my question, I'll just point out that the distance between the column and the edge of what he labelled "17 foot thick (max.) cast concrete wall at tower base." is about twice the width of the column. This means that whatever the object is, it's no where near 17 feet thick.

http://algoxy.com/psych/images/core.corner.arrow.col.jpg