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Prison driving Olympic bomber crazy....

So you want to have to pay say 200 thousand a year or more per inmate?

Increased cost would serve as a very good incentive to reduce the prison population, so yes, that would probably be a good idea.

Please support this view, with gangs and such it is somewhat questionable about the number of maximum vs other security level prisoners. Please show some data.

I'm not quite sure what it is that you're contesting.
Are you claiming that most prisoners would be violent?
Are you claiming that most prisoners are prone to escape?
Are you claiming that most prisoners today are detained in high-security facilities?

I would claim the opposite to each of these statements, but it would be good to know where the disagreement is.
 
So you just need to convice people to significantly increase spending on prisons.

... or to significantly reduce the number of people sent to prison, so that the prison population can be handled with existing staffing levels, which would be my preferred choice.
 
... or to significantly reduce the number of people sent to prison, so that the prison population can be handled with existing staffing levels, which would be my preferred choice.

That's a lot of people.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061130/ap_on_re_us/prison_population

WASHINGTON - A record 7 million people — or one in every 32 American adults — were behind bars, on probation or on parole by the end of last year, according to the Justice Department. Of those, 2.2 million were in prison or jail, an increase of 2.7 percent over the previous year, according to a report released Wednesday.
More than 4.1 million people were on probation and 784,208 were on parole at the end of 2005. Prison releases are increasing, but admissions are increasing more.
Men still far outnumber women in prisons and jails, but the female population is growing faster. Over the past year, the female population in state or federal prison increased 2.6 percent while the number of male inmates rose 1.9 percent. By year's end, 7 percent of all inmates were women. The gender figures do not include inmates in local jails.
"Today's figures fail to capture incarceration's impact on the thousands of children left behind by mothers in prison," Marc Mauer, the executive director of the Sentencing Project, a Washington-based group supporting criminal justice reform, said in a statement. "Misguided policies that create harsher sentences for nonviolent drug offenses are disproportionately responsible for the increasing rates of women in prisons and jails."
From 1995 to 2003, inmates in federal prison for drug offenses have accounted for 49 percent of total prison population growth.
That war on drugs is costing a lot of money.
 
Everyone seems to be thinking that just because someone is there for drug offenses that they are not dangerous. Well that might be true in some cases, but in others if say they have enough of a back ground in gangs or just that culture violence is the way to demonstrate worth and respect to others.
 
I find it very hard to believe that Americans for some reason would be about ten times more disposed towards crime, than the inhabitants of many other nations. It seems to me that the American judicial system creates criminals/prisoners. This seems supported by the fact that some American states apparently have a prison population that is comparable with other democratic countries.
 
Everyone seems to be thinking that just because someone is there for drug offenses that they are not dangerous. Well that might be true in some cases, but in others if say they have enough of a back ground in gangs or just that culture violence is the way to demonstrate worth and respect to others.


I see. So you want to lock people up in conditions known to cause insanity, not because of what they've done, but because of their background and culture.

Why don't you just lynch the uppity n******s instead? Save society the cost, not only of prison, but of a trial, and lawyers, and all that. For that matter, why only lynch the uppity ones? Since the ones that aren't uppity are part of the same culture, you could just ship 'em all to special camps....
 
I see. So you want to lock people up in conditions known to cause insanity, not because of what they've done, but because of their background and culture.

Why don't you just lynch the uppity n******s instead? Save society the cost, not only of prison, but of a trial, and lawyers, and all that. For that matter, why only lynch the uppity ones? Since the ones that aren't uppity are part of the same culture, you could just ship 'em all to special camps....

Yea, keep just the Aryan Nation in the prisons?

I was dressing the issue of how violent prisoners are, so of course it is racist? And this is based on your long experiance in the DOC?
 
I don't care that he is in prison for what he did, but I also think this qualifies as 'cruel and unusual punishment'. Not because I feel sorry for him, but just on principle.


As I suspected from other threads some principle is more important than people killed. Go for it. I personally think he got off way too light. (he is still alive and a specialist did not get to help him leave this plane of existance).
 
The Eighth Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. Of course, Rudolph seems to conceed that the circumstances of his confinement involve neither. From the article:

"Using solitary confinement, Supermax is designed to inflict as much misery and pain as is constitutionally permissible," he wrote in a letter.

(emphasis added)

Not that I'll be losing much sleep over it either way.
 
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