Gravy. Gentleman and hero

What's really cool , while watching Gravy dismantle the CTers, is knowing that Gravy only has to use three brain cells to do it (two to process information, one to reload). Any more brain cells than that and it's more like an aircraft carrier taking on a rubber ducky!

Keep fighting the good fight, Gravy!!
 
What's really cool , while watching Gravy dismantle the CTers, is knowing that Gravy only has to use three brain cells to do it (two to process information, one to reload). Any more brain cells than that and it's more like an aircraft carrier taking on a rubber ducky!

Keep fighting the good fight, Gravy!!
currently they are fixing the Intrepid up in Bayonne, NJ's dry dock. The CTers don't have a rubber ducky to stand on.
 
All respect to you man. I've watched quite a few of the videos of you with these people and I'm honestly in awe of how you can hold yourself together in these situations. I'm very unlikely ever to be in New York to buy you a beer, but if it counts, you can certainly have a virtual one on me. [Can't find a pint of beer smiley]

Keep up the good work and don't let them get to you.
 
Thanks, Puffin, and welcome to the forums! Be sure to check out the other subforums. Folks in the conspiracy section can sometimes forget there's a world out there that doesn't resemble an asylum.

There will be some more enlightening video from Ground Zero coming soon.

Now can we please let this thread die? Please?
 
The only video I have seen of Gravy at ground zero involved him calling someone an &&&hole. The man he abused then asked him what brought building 7 down and Gravy's pregnant pause gave us the answer.
 
The only video I have seen of Gravy at ground zero involved him calling someone an &&&hole. The man he abused then asked him what brought building 7 down and Gravy's pregnant pause gave us the answer.
Welcome to the forum.

What was the answer?
Who is "us"?
Who's foot are you on?
 
The only video I have seen of Gravy at ground zero involved him calling someone an &&&hole. The man he abused then asked him what brought building 7 down and Gravy's pregnant pause gave us the answer.

Well there's your problem! Hearing answers when no one is speaking is a recognised psychiatric condition. I'd have that looked at if I were you.
 
Well there's your problem! Hearing answers when no one is speaking is a recognised psychiatric condition. I'd have that looked at if I were you.

I think a Body Language Expert may disagree unless you think they are also as insane.
 
The only video I have seen of Gravy at ground zero involved him calling someone an &&&hole. The man he abused then asked him what brought building 7 down and Gravy's pregnant pause gave us the answer.

I've seen Gravy in action. Complete with statistics, citations, and facts.

Then I've heard the ct'ers talk about:

Fires that were almost out

Fires that weren't really that hot.

Buildings falling at the speed of Gravity.

Thermite explosions.

Steel spirited away

Falling in their own footprint (If they were wearing snow shoes maybe!)

and other assorted bilge water.

Gravy's got the foot notes, the end notes, and the bibliography.

CTers have "feelings"
 
I think a Body Language Expert may disagree unless you think they are also as insane.

OK so it wasn't the pause.

I haven't seen this particular clip of Gravy in action. The only one I've seen is him dealing with Alex Jones. Maybe you should watch that one to get a good look at some interesting body language.
 
The only video I have seen of Gravy at ground zero involved him calling someone an &&&hole. The man he abused then asked him what brought building 7 down and Gravy's pregnant pause gave us the answer.

From previous threads:

I appreciate your concerns, but keep in mind that the Ground Zero video is edited to give the impression you got. It doesn't show me giving the facts that refute the CT arguments. It doesn't show their inablilty to name a single thing I was wrong about when I asked them, including the camera crew. It doesn't show the reason that I was mad at the guy in the beginning. Don't worry about my debate style or my command of the material. :)

By the way, I only cursed at the guy in the beginning because, after I had corrected everything he had just said to the public, he brought up "NORAD's stand down," he refused to listen to my correction about that, and then he said he was proud of what he was saying. That really set me off. I'm surprised that people thought I was keeping my cool. I don't call people a-holes every day!

The cameraman and the two guys with the purple banner were from TruthMove.org, which only appears to have those three members. Another thing they edited out is them saying that I didn't know what I was talking about and me asking each of them to name a single thing I said that was wrong. Their reply: "I don't think we need to engage in that kind of thing." Right. No need to have evidence when you claim that someone is lying. I spend my entire time there correcting them, but no denier that I've encountered at Ground Zero has been able to tell me a single thing that I've gotten wrong.

They also chose not to include in the video my asking each truther (including those three) what NIST gave as the reasons for the tower collapses. Of course none of them have any idea, although their main argument at Ground Zero is that the towers couldn't have fallen the way they did without explosives.

This is as basic as it gets. If you're going to vehemently claim that a version of events is false, it helps to know what that version is. Not a single denier I've encountered at Ground Zero has ever known what the official version is!

If you want to know what Gravy's thoughts on WTC7 are he's written a paper about it, it tells you a bit more than your interpretation of a pause on a video edited by CTists.

http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.doc
or
http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Lies.pdf
 
Ok Maccy please accept my apologies. I did not know who edited the video. Although, it must be said, he did stop when asked that question and did not provide an explanation. He seemed to be just telling the guy that he should trust the experts.
 
OK so it wasn't the pause.

I haven't seen this particular clip of Gravy in action. The only one I've seen is him dealing with Alex Jones. Maybe you should watch that one to get a good look at some interesting body language.

It's here: http://911blogger.com/node/4688

And there's a thread about it here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69482

Anybody who hasn't already seen Mark Roberts aka Gravy debating with Alex Jones can see it here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8820426888499996890#26m30s

Again, this is a CTist video (this time by the very people who brought you Loose Change)
 
Ok Maccy please accept my apologies. I did not know who edited the video. Although, it must be said, he did stop when asked that question and did not provide an explanation. He seemed to be just telling the guy that he should trust the experts.

No worries, apology accepted and kudos for making it.

I can't answer for him, but maybe he'd just run out of patience?
 
Gravy,

I was wondering if you got my PM from a few days back... when I tried sending you an e-mail it told me that your inbox was too full.

Could you please AIM me at Albaholic or e-mail me at otvertchenkoATgmailDOTcom? I wanted to discuss that anti-LC movie idea you've mentioned a while back in our e-mail exchanges.

-Dima
 
Hmmm wow, just watched gravy v alex jones
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8820426888499996890#28m33s

Is Alex Jones some sort of 'shock jock'? We have conservative radio presenters over here in Australia (one of them oddly enough with the name Alan Jones) who use the same sort of weak sarcastic insults when confronted with an argument they cannot simply silence. He claims Gravy has the style of a lawyer, well personally I'd say that's something to be proud of when confronted with someone who has the style of a sly politician.

Love your work Mark... I did notice alot of young wankers in the 'truth movement' on that video, just wanted to say that not all us university kids are such dickheads.
 
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Just watched the Gravy and Alex Jones video. Yes, Gravy clearly won the debate and Jones wasn't prepared and was being evasive. My question would be, why didn't the video makers edit this video to make Gravy look bad?
 
Grinder? Hoagy? Po'boy? Submarine?

Hero is judged best in retrospect, not spur of the moment.

That said - Gravy's got the right stuff. Proud to say I've met him.

As a Philadelphian, I have to say....it's spelled "hoagie". And that's really the only acceptable name for it.

Ok Maccy please accept my apologies. I did not know who edited the video. Although, it must be said, he did stop when asked that question and did not provide an explanation. He seemed to be just telling the guy that he should trust the experts.

I would think that trusting the experts is a hell of a lot better than trusting the novices, wouldn't you?

Try this. Given the choice, would you rather trust the experts who say that electricity will shock/kill you, or would you rather just stick your fingers in the outlet and find out yourself?
 
Just watched the Gravy and Alex Jones video. Yes, Gravy clearly won the debate and Jones wasn't prepared and was being evasive. My question would be, why didn't the video makers edit this video to make Gravy look bad?

I noticed edits throughout - Chances are that was their attempt to make him look bad. They're so into their movement perhaps that they think Alex Jones's ignorance/high 5's etc were actually something good to show.
 

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