This is the thread that may very well change the way you look at 9/11 FOREVER!
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Empty our minds so we can see what you claim? Sorry but that IS a cult tactic.
thread proves nutters could be getting nuttier - threat condition red
So when will you and Charlie Sheen share this overwhelming and irrefutable evidence?
You mean the bone head plan we never did, made up by fools and not done because there are normal people not like you in charge sometimes.
You forgot, Japan attacked us, and we attacked Germany? So we always do the wrong guy for the wrong crime. But gee, we locked up some guys from the guys who sent the guys who did 9/11. We still have them, we are still looking all over for UBL, are you actually awake?
Iraq is a whole different story, Iraq bombed me in 1991, so we busted him in 2003, now Iraq is bombing Iraq, who knew they never liked each other, and they are Islam, but some Islam is not Islam to some Islam. Sounds like UK and and the IRA, or some other things. Freedom seems tougher than dictators, but then who said life was easy or fair.
Iraq, not related that much to 9/11, but then they did not exactly send help either. But you seem to trying to tie Iraq to 9/11, why? UBL would be easier. Do you have any facts to back up anything you say, or are you plugged into political junk news.
We did not do Operations Northwood. Did not happen, so what does that prove, we do not do dumb things you think we would do. Does that mean you would do dumb things to do the things you want to do? No, there is no evidence of controlled demolition. You have no evidence and your are totally frustrated you can not find any. Too bad.
Oh no! The insider trading, it was not insider trading silly, it was made up by CT guys. The SEC can track trading and we would have the bad guys by now, but gee, people were already shorting the airlines and they checked the rumors and they came up empty. Go ahead do some silly trading and see if you get caught; Talk to Martha Stewart, she was trading stocks and lied, she was in jail, we put everyone in jail. Not one piece of good evidence. What motive? Bush was reading kids books, no opportunity.
No, according to the evidence a commercial airliner, flight 77 hit the Pentagon. There is not one thing I can think of protected from airplanes flying into them. Now or ever in the United States. We do not have kill zones around our citizens, we try not to kill ourselves. NORAD was about to do what had never been done, and if flight 93 passengers had not fought back we may have shot down flight 93, but it is not easy finding and identifying the terrorist aircraft. So still, you have nothing. good job, zero stuff right so far.
You are at 100 percent BS level this day!
There is no blinding evidence from you yet.
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So when will you and Charlie Sheen share this overwhelming and irrefutable evidence?
You mean the bone head plan we never did, made up by fools and not done because there are normal people not like you in charge sometimes.
You forgot, Japan attacked us, and we attacked Germany? So we always do the wrong guy for the wrong crime. But gee, we locked up some guys from the guys who sent the guys who did 9/11. We still have them, we are still looking all over for UBL, are you actually awake?
Iraq is a whole different story, Iraq bombed me in 1991, so we busted him in 2003, now Iraq is bombing Iraq, who knew they never liked each other, and they are Islam, but some Islam is not Islam to some Islam. Sounds like UK and and the IRA, or some other things. Freedom seems tougher than dictators, but then who said life was easy or fair.
Iraq, not related that much to 9/11, but then they did not exactly send help either. But you seem to trying to tie Iraq to 9/11, why? UBL would be easier. Do you have any facts to back up anything you say, or are you plugged into political junk news.
We did not do Operations Northwood. Did not happen, so what does that prove, we do not do dumb things you think we would do. Does that mean you would do dumb things to do the things you want to do? No, there is no evidence of controlled demolition. You have no evidence and your are totally frustrated you can not find any. Too bad.
Oh no! The insider trading, it was not insider trading silly, it was made up by CT guys. The SEC can track trading and we would have the bad guys by now, but gee, people were already shorting the airlines and they checked the rumors and they came up empty. Go ahead do some silly trading and see if you get caught; Talk to Martha Stewart, she was trading stocks and lied, she was in jail, we put everyone in jail. Not one piece of good evidence. What motive? Bush was reading kids books, no opportunity.
No, according to the evidence a commercial airliner, flight 77 hit the Pentagon. There is not one thing I can think of protected from airplanes flying into them. Now or ever in the United States. We do not have kill zones around our citizens, we try not to kill ourselves. NORAD was about to do what had never been done, and if flight 93 passengers had not fought back we may have shot down flight 93, but it is not easy finding and identifying the terrorist aircraft. So still, you have nothing. good job, zero stuff right so far.
You are at 100 percent BS level this day!
There is no blinding evidence from you yet.
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Could you at least try to check the bs you post. 7 billion is what he asked for the towers and 861 million is what he got for WTC7.
Z
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Just a side note: the Pentagon is, by far, NOT the most protected building in the world. Never has been. Yes, it's reinforced; but other than that, it's a fairly typical office complex. There's no anti-aircraft guns, or laser beams, or force fields. There are no tanks or artillery patrolling the grounds. And a major airport is nearby - so there's no anti-aircraft-anything on hand.
There's not even automatic guns in the hallways.
And until 9/11, the thought than any threat would reach the Pentagon before the military could reacto was never considered. No one ever figured a hijacked plane would be flown into the Pentagon before. They expect normal military actions - which would all probably fall far short of the Pentagon by the time they got stopped.
NORAD HQ is far better protected than the Pentagon.
Stop with the verbal diahrea and start with the thinking.
There's not even automatic guns in the hallways.
And until 9/11, the thought than any threat would reach the Pentagon before the military could reacto was never considered. No one ever figured a hijacked plane would be flown into the Pentagon before. They expect normal military actions - which would all probably fall far short of the Pentagon by the time they got stopped.
NORAD HQ is far better protected than the Pentagon.
Stop with the verbal diahrea and start with the thinking.
Provide evidence of this. I personally know of a fireman who forbid his children from working in the wtc complex as it was well known to be a "death trap."
Right....1.2 billion pounds of debris were removed from GZ so your "everything to dust" theory just died.
Now it becomes clear. Fuel-laden.....bin Laden....oh my god...it's a coverup!!!!
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Do I believe there were mistakes in the official story? Yes.
Do I believe that it is possible that some people might be embarrassed about their own incompetence and thus try to alter their story a little to make themselves look better? Yes.
Do I beleive that inconsistencies can be found in anything and that the more complex an event is and the more closely it is investigated the more strange little anomalies will crop up? Yes.
Do I believe any of the above proves a government conspiracy? No, for that you have to present actual evidence of the conspiracy not wild speculation and supposition.
I thought you guys/gals were.......This board is not monolithic. I disagree with people here more often than not so saying "you guys" about anything is not really accurate.
Frankly the 9/11 CT folks convince me that there was not a conspiracy with every argument they try to make. Every time it comes down to hard facts of figures the argument turns to smoke.
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Do you really wonder?
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Oh good, something I can sink my teeth into...
Well, not zero. But it's pretty pathetic for threats from domestic aircraft.
False. Washington DC does not even have a restricted status. A temporary ADIZ was introduced in 2003 as a result of the 9/11 attacks. You do know what an ADIZ is right?
Yup, they sure do. You're right there. I thought we were talking about NORAD? Now you're onto the FAA? Stay on target!
No, they hijacked aircraft with knives, fake bombs, mace, and box cutters.
What about The Pentagon crash is impossible?
This would be Northwoods right? The rejected plan that didn't involve killing Americans?
(And then a big pointless rant from 28K)
What, no more NORAD? Aw C'mon. I thought you had an argument?
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Well, interesting...
Because that picture comes from here:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5
Did you read what they have to say about the spikes?
Emphasis mine.
So maybe before you go grabbing pictures from articles you should read them?
I started reading this thread and got an overwhelming sense of dejavu. Only problem is, it isn't a mystical and strange feeling about my ability to see something for the first time and KNOW FOR CERTAIN that I've seen it before.
No, unfortunately the dejavu I got this time is the sort you get after hitting your head against a brick wall ten or twenty times and then seeing the familiar patterns of bricks and mortar once again approaching.
I think I need a new hobby. My brain hurts.
No, unfortunately the dejavu I got this time is the sort you get after hitting your head against a brick wall ten or twenty times and then seeing the familiar patterns of bricks and mortar once again approaching.
I think I need a new hobby. My brain hurts.
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It's easy to make this claim when you obviously haven't even bothered to read your own evidence, let alone the evidence provided to you by those here at JREF.
One must wonder about the mental state of someone so convinced of his correctness, but who is too afraid to actually address the real evidence and arguments against his beliefs. It must be a sad and lonely world you live in.
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Why is almost everything you say almost verbatim from a conspiracy website?
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But if the building collapsed into dust where did the 20 thousand tons of steel come from that were removed from ground zero? Again, have you spoken to Joe Casaliggi personally? Have you done ANY research beyond Google?
Is anyone else getting the same vibe I'm getting from this thread? That when folks say the buildings "collapsed to dust" it's code for "star wars beam weapon"?
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I'm sure this has been pointed out before (maybe even in this huge thread that sprouted up in one night) - just because something hasn't happened in the past, it doesn't follow that it cannot happen. If a steel framed building has never fallen that doesn't mean that a steel framed building can't fall. Some math could easily show why a steel-framed building will collapse from fire.
Now, imagine it's October 3rd, 1957. Someone employing CT logic would say that nothing could be put into space. Why? Because nothing to that point had been. Of course, if you asked a Russian scientist working on Sputnik, she could explain the math and engineering that show that something very well could be put into space. CT logic would counter, "But has it ever happened? Then it can't happen!"
Of course, on October 4th, they'd be proven wrong.
It just goes to show how lacking the CT side is when it comes to thinking.
Now, imagine it's October 3rd, 1957. Someone employing CT logic would say that nothing could be put into space. Why? Because nothing to that point had been. Of course, if you asked a Russian scientist working on Sputnik, she could explain the math and engineering that show that something very well could be put into space. CT logic would counter, "But has it ever happened? Then it can't happen!"
Of course, on October 4th, they'd be proven wrong.
It just goes to show how lacking the CT side is when it comes to thinking.