David Shayler on Sky TV

[jon]

Videos on YouTube.

The presenter looks somewhat non-plussed when the CT stuff comes in - Shayler was meant to be talking about Russians getting poisoned, and one gets the sense he won't be invited back...

Pretty much stock CT stuff. Not as far out as it could be - you get the sense that Shayler's been persuaded not to be too explicit about his belief in holograms, sympathy for Icke, etc...

 

[JAStewart]

Haha, love the post

"9/11 was an inside job. google 'killtown' to find out"

Killtown being the manipulating dude who didn't think the holocaust was a big deal

 

[chacal]

Man this Shayler is a joke, "no arab names on passenger lists, Pentagon missile defence systems, and no planes". How did he get on television to discuss the Litvinenko case anyway and exactly what are the recruitment criteria for mi5 if this idiot got in. I'm just asking questions.

 

[Dazed]

I've always thought myself that Shayler was a bit of a whacko from what I've seen on infowars. I thought I'd finally go see what the ol' wiki has to say about him, pretty interesting stuff here.

Shayler joined MI5 in October 1991 after responding to an oblique job advertisement in the 12 May edition of The Observer entitled "Godot isn't coming" a reference to the play Waiting for Godot in which Godot never arrives. The article asked if he had an interest in current affairs, had common sense and an ability to write. Believing the job was media related, he applied. He started work in F branch, which dealt with counter-subversion including the monitoring of left wing groups and activists, where he worked vetting Labour Party politicians prior to the 1992 election, later being transferred to T branch, which handled Irish terrorism, in August 1992. While at T branch he was involved in an investigation of Sean Mcnulty, an associate of the PIRAs Phelim Hamill who at the time was coordinator for the PIRAs mainland campaign. He moved again later to G9 branch responsible for middle eastern terrorism where he headed the Libyan desk as G9A/5. It was during his tenure at the Libyan desk that he learnt of the MI6 plot to assassinate Libyan leader colonel Gaddafi from his MI6 counterpart David Watson (PT16B) and Richard Bartlett (PT16) who had overall control responsibility for the operation[2][3]. He finally left the service in October 1996 after having become disillusioned with its management.

David Shayler [...] was prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act after passing documents to the Mail on Sunday newspaper in August, 1997 that alleged that MI5 was paranoid about socialists and that it had previously investigated Labour Party ministers Peter Mandelson, Jack Straw and Harriet Harman.

Shayler stated that MI6 had been involved in a failed assassination attack on Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi in February 1996 without the permission of the then foreign secretary Sir Malcolm Rifkind (required under British and international law). The plot involved paying the Libyan opposition group LIFG with supporters in London and links to Al-Qaeda £100,000 to carry out the attack.[4] The group was paid to plant a bomb underneath Gaddafi's motorcade. The attack happened in March 1996 in the coastal city of Sirte. The bomb was planted under the wrong car and failed to kill Gaddafi but did result in the deaths of several innocent civilians.[3] In November 1999 he sent a dossier of detailed evidence of this including the names of those involved to then home secretary Jack Straw who stated that he was looking into the matter[5] as well as parliament's security and intelligence committee and the police.

He also stated that the intelligence services were deliberately planting stories in newspapers and the mainstream media by feeding willing jounalists with misinformation, such as a November 1996 article in the Sunday Telegraph by Con Coughlin linking Colonel Gaddafi's son with a currency conterfeiting operation citing the source as a British banking official when in reality the source was MI6. This was later confirmed when Gaddafi's son served the paper with a libel writ which later admitted the true source of the information.[6]

According to Shayler the 1994 bombing of the Israeli embassy in London was known to the intelligence services before the event happened and could have been prevented.

The British government later placed an injunction on the republication of Shayler's claims although this was later lifted on 2 November 1997 allowing the paper to print his claims of how the bombing of the Israeli Embassy in London in 1994 could have been prevented if the service had acted on prior knowledge it had obtained. On the 19 June 1998 he told the Spectator magazine that the security service had information that could have prevented the 1993 Bishopsgate bombing. After revealing information to the Mail on Sunday in August 1997 Shayler fled the day prior to publication, first to Utrecht in the Netherlands and then later to France with his girlfriend and former colleague Annie Machon and was arrested by French police on 1 August 1998 with an extradition warrant on the request of the British government and then held in La Santé Prison for four months under the prisoner number 269151F.[7] On 18 November 1998 the French courts decided that the British governments extradition request was politically motivated and therefore not grounds for extradition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shayler

It seems like most of his claims have been substantiated. Too bad he thinks the 9/11 planes were hologram-encapsulated missiles.

 

[gumboot]

I've always thought myself that Shayler was a bit of a whacko from what I've seen on infowars. I thought I'd finally go see what the ol' wiki has to say about him, pretty interesting stuff here.

David Shayler was a nobody desk clerk who committed treason because he thought he was important.

-Gumboot

 

[NickUK]

David Shayler was a nobody desk clerk who committed treason because he thought he was important.

-Gumboot

Quoted for [rule8]ing truth.

Now, he's just paying the bills like Alex Jones and all the other morons. People forget that professional CTers make a decent packet doing this stuff.

It's depressingly cynical when you think about it.

 

[jon]

I think the tension in the interview comes from seeing how far out Shayler's claims will go... Stuff about passenger list etc. is thorougly debunked and pretty run-of-the-mill, but you can see he *really* wants to tell people the truth about holograms as well, and wants to say something nice about Icke (hm, I wonder how hologram-disguised missiles and thermite fit together...)

Wasn't impressed with the interviewer - admittedly, I doubt this was what he expected, but he could have been a bit more critical/pressing. I though Shayler was able to get away with a lot re. his claims about 7/7, too.

 

[Spins]

Good lord this Shayler is a complete nut, you'd think being a former MI5 agent (or whatever) he'd have better evidence of 9/11 being an inside job than the usual CT LC nonsense, thermite, "pull it", controlled demoltion, blah blah blah blah blah!

 

[gumboot]

Quoted for [rule8]ing truth.

Now, he's just paying the bills like Alex Jones and all the other morons. People forget that professional CTers make a decent packet doing this stuff.

It's depressingly cynical when you think about it.

Given his previous actions, it's only more sickening that he is exploiting his former status as a "MI5 agent". Which is, of course, nonsense. He wasn't a field agent.

Any large company, including MI5 needs a range of personnel; typists, copyists, office technicians, cleaners, cooks, receptionists, janitors...

Imagine if a CIA cleaner overheard a conversation, took it to the press, got busted for it, then used their "former CIA" status to gain kudos in the CT world.

-Gumboot

 

[Spins]

I've just finished watching part 3 and I can confirm Shayler is an elite member of the tin-foil hat crowd. At about 7:00mins in he seems to be insinuating that two planes didn't fly into the WTC, complete nut-job!

 

[gumboot]

I've just finished watching part 3 and I can confirm Shayler is an elite member of the tin-foil hat crowd. At about 7:00mins in Shayler seems to be insinuating that two planes didn't fly into the WTC, complete nut-job!

He believes the Royal Family are a race of reptillian aliens.

'nuff said.

-Gumboot

 

[Brainster]

I like the point the other guy makes in the second segment (about 2:40), that those who believe in naught (nothing) will believe in aught (anything). The saying in the US is slightly different: Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything. He points out that if he were to start claiming that David Shayler is actually pulling a psy-op to discredit 9-11 "Truth" that within a week he'd have acolytes to his point of view. Actually, of course, there are plenty of British Deniers who already believe this, and I suspect that's why Shayler sits back and nods in agreement.