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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Isn't it obvious? Conspiracy nuts are too stupid to see the arguments that refute them. They are people of below-average intelligence who think they're geniuses.

I cite Alex Jones as proof.
 
se7ensnakes said:
milesalpha
Never need an expert..........I think you need to improve your comprehension skills.....I plainly said that it the control demolition is obvious and for that you dont need an expert...........like a ship that has sunk, you dont need an expert to tell you it has sunk.
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Christopher believes the towers were built with a concrete core with explosives allready in it, and in the floortrusses. Do you agree with Chris? If not, care to explain to him how the buildings were blown up in your opinion?
 
Big Al said:
Hmmm... It was "obvious" that the iceberg tore a huge hole in the Titanic's side, but it didn't. It just rumpled the hull plates so there were gaps.

Likewise, someone could say "Everyone said the Titanic was unsinkable. Therefore a simple iceberg couldn't have sunk it. It must have been sabotage. And this is how they did it..."

That's what's going on here.
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also....the band! they played on! would you carry on waltzing with the icy north atlantic lapping at your ankles???? I DONT FRIKN THINK SO!!!! "obviously" they were in on it too! just there to lull the passengers into a false sense of security just before being whisked away by the sub that torpedoed the ship in the first place ITS SO FKN OBVIOUS! (tm se7ensnakes)

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bonavada said:
ITS SO FKN OBVIOUS!
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Obvious facts (from a series of 10,000):

4,786: The sun moves round the earth, or we'd all be flung off.
5,212: The earth can't be a sphere, or people would fall off the bottom.
6,094: When you swing a ball on a string round your head, there is a radial force pulling the ball away from you. When you cut the string, it will fly directly away from you.
7,703: Heavier objects fall faster than light ones.
 
Big Al said:
Obvious facts (from a series of 10,000):

4,786: The sun moves round the earth, or we'd all be flung off.
5,212: The earth can't be a sphere, or people would fall off the bottom.
6,094: When you swing a ball on a string round your head, there is a radial force pulling the ball away from you. When you cut the string, it will fly directly away from you.
7,703: Heavier objects fall faster than light ones.
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#6666: a car is travelling at 60mph, a torch is shone out the window. the light is travelling 60mph faster than the speed of light!

the obviousity is obvious! OBVIOUSLY!

BV
 
DHR said:
Yes we now do it with alternating strokes, left hand, right hand don't you?
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its OBVIOUS (tm se7ensnakes) he does. A LOT. what else could explain his myopic explanation for this:-

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bonavada said:
its OBVIOUS (tm se7ensnakes) he does. A LOT. what else could explain his myopic explanation for this:-

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/8748453c042018e89.jpg[/qimg]

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Might have saw it on the off-stroke.

bad form and all.
 
Christophera said:
At the 43rd floor the core walls got thinner because the walls below that level supported the heavy mechanical room at the 43rd. That image is probably around 100 feet over the 43rd. WTC 1 came down with much irregularity compared to WTC 2 and so the spire and that concrete shear wall was left standing.
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The only problem is that there were mechanical floors above the 43rd floor. You're getting your info from an incomplete tenant list which only mentions one mechanical floor yet was widely circulated (the list for the other tower lists no mechanical floors, so does that mean there really weren't any?), and skyscrapers require more than a single mechanical floor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tenants_in_One_World_Trade_Center

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_floor#Examples

Dark bands showing mechanical floor vents, since you like pictures.

You find them on 75, 76, 108, and 109 as well.

So, why would they have thinner walls above the 43rd floor when they still had four mechanical floors and a TV/radio broadcast tower to support? Please provide evidence to support your assertion that the walls tapered.
 
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When denoting obvious fact......dont undermine experience

Hey listen forks, adherents of this anti-conspiracy forum, you guys really got to think.
When i stated obvious facts, i stated it in regards to the many buildings that have burned around the world, I have yet to see a total collapse of three buildings due to fire. Oh you say you have one......show it to me. Please dont post any woodern structures. Or structures with fallen roofs. My request is simply ........a collapse metal structure fallen on its own foot print due to a 4 hour long fire.
In regards to the titanic......bad analogy.......really bad analogy. The world is full of sunken metal ships that have gone down because of flotsam. In fact when i was in the Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic a metal ship went down just because the rust broke thru the hull.
You guys are not thinking, you are just posting without any regards to somekind of intelligent conversation. I think you are just doing that to keep this forum alive... No one can be that dumb!
 
se7ensnakes said:
Hey listen forks, adherents of this anti-conspiracy forum, you guys really got to think.
When i stated obvious facts, i stated it in regards to the many buildings that have burned around the world, I have yet to see a total collapse of three buildings due to fire. Oh you say you have one......show it to me. Please dont post any woodern structures. Or structures with fallen roofs. My request is simply ........a collapse metal structure fallen on its own foot print due to a 4 hour long fire.
In regards to the titanic......bad analogy.......really bad analogy. The world is full of sunken metal ships that have gone down because of flotsam. In fact when i was in the Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic a metal ship went down just because the rust broke thru the hull.
You guys are not thinking, you are just posting without any regards to somekind of intelligent conversation. I think you are just doing that to keep this forum alive... No one can be that dumb!
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Someone is.
 
se7ensnakes said:
The only realistic explanation of the fall of the three WTC structures are a control demolition. You dont even need to read any expert ......it is all so evident. Three buildings falling down due to an open fire just dont cut it.
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See, this is the reason nobody takes you guys seriously. You go on and on about these dire conspiracies, and then you claim it's all "common sense" and you "don't even need to read any expert" (I assume you mean either "expert opinions" or "experts"). But there is a reason why we have people who study their whole lives in order to construct these buildings, rather than simply using "common sense."

There are areas where you need to show more diligence in terms of research and knowledge, especially complex technical subjects like structural engineering and architectural design. There is a lot of complicated math and physics involved, and "common sense" doesn't even scratch the surface.

Quick, I'll use an example from a totally different area of life. I underwrite state-mandated group disability insurance for a living, so I'll use an example I'm qualified to judge.

Using common sense, tell me how to determine a profitable rate for a group disability insurance policy given three years of premium, claims, and rate history. The business has changed insurance carriers several times, and has been with the current carrier less than six months. Assuming a low yearly premium (say, under $5,000 a year), what would you need to do, without mentioning specific numbers. Just give me a general idea of what kind of factors you would include in your calculations and decision-making process.

Only people who believe "common sense" is an acceptable methodology in solving technical problems are allowed to answer. Come on, this is not nearly as hard as structural engineering.
 
What do i think of OPERATION NORTHWOOD?

I think that OPERATION NORTHWOOD is exemplary of some of what the government / private sector is capable of. Plant bombs in American cities, hurt american citizens, shoot missiles to cuban refugees floating on the water, all so that americans populace support a war. What else can i say.....it is very simple.
If Operation Northwood had indeed taken place, I could just see you people arguing that the plane over cuba was really full of students. Most of you anti-conspiracy people just dont think. You are really a danger to our freedom!
 
se7ensnakes said:
When i stated obvious facts, i stated it in regards to the many buildings that have burned around the world, I have yet to see a total collapse of three buildings due to fire. Oh you say you have one......show it to me. Please dont post any woodern structures. Or structures with fallen roofs. My request is simply ........a collapse metal structure fallen on its own foot print due to a 4 hour long fire.
In regards to the titanic......bad analogy.......really bad analogy. The world is full of sunken metal ships that have gone down because of flotsam. In fact when i was in the Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic a metal ship went down just because the rust broke thru the hull.
You guys are not thinking, you are just posting without any regards to somekind of intelligent conversation. I think you are just doing that to keep this forum alive... No one can be that dumb!
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We're not just taking about simple fires here. How many other major structures have you seen that have had fully-laden airliners crash straight into them, simultaneously exposing several floors to a bath of blazing aviation fuel?

And the Titanic is not a bad analogy. It's all about how "obvious" conclusions are not always the right ones. How about, instead of just bombarding us with rhetoric, personal invective, masses of ellipses . . . and shouts of "it's obvious", you inject a little reasoned argument into the discussion?

The controlled demolition argument is NOT obvious to many of us. Saying it is will not change that. Why don't you offer reasons for why it's the only reasonable explanation?
 
se7ensnakes said:
My request is simply ........a collapse metal structure fallen on its own foot print due to a 4 hour long fire.
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so we can't take into account two huge passenger jets that deliberately crashed (at high speed causing considerable damage) one into each tower? no of course we can't, i wonder why? maybe because it never freakin happened before?


se7ensnakes said:
In regards to the titanic......bad analogy.......really bad analogy.
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the analogy was good, sunk on it's maiden voyage just like you on your first trip to this thread.

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se7ensnakes said:
I think that OPERATION NORTHWOOD is exemplary of some of what the government / private sector is capable of. Plant bombs in American cities, hurt american citizens, shoot missiles to cuban refugees floating on the water, all so that americans populace support a war. What else can i say.....it is very simple.
If Operation Northwood had indeed taken place, I could just see you people arguing that the plane over cuba was really full of students. Most of you anti-conspiracy people just dont think. You are really a danger to our freedom!
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Exactly who would be left after these two areas are filtered out? Non-profit groups? You?

You see, Operation Northwoods was a retarded idea, and even the morons in government saw it as retarded. Them coming up with an idiotic plan to stage attacks doesn't somehow prove 9/11 was a government plot. All it proves is that the planners in the 60's acted like morons sometimes. So what?

So, what evidence do you have that it was CD that brought down the towers?
 
Big Al said:
We're not just taking about simple fires here. How many other major structures have you seen that have had fully-laden airliners crash straight into them, simultaneously exposing several floors to a bath of blazing aviation fuel?

And the Titanic is not a bad analogy. It's all about how "obvious" conclusions are not always the right ones. How about, instead of just bombarding us with rhetoric, personal invective, masses of ellipses . . . and shouts of "it's obvious", you inject a little reasoned argument into the discussion?

The controlled demolition argument is NOT obvious to many of us. Saying it is will not change that. Why don't you offer reasons for why it's the only reasonable explanation?
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:-]

great minds etc

BV
 
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