Suzanne Somers Promotes "Bioidenticals"

Katana, three card monty on the corner I have no problem with.
selling penny mining stocks to men I have no problem with
selling crap to people under duress, offering false hope in their moment of weakness, I have a problem with
maybe if they were selling 'CM's Patented Placebo's $10 for a months supply' I could let it go
but they are not, I'm with you, stick it to 'em if you can

P.S. "I'm with you" maybe thats cuz yer hot too
 
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Canadian Malcontent said:
Katana, three card monty on the corner I have no problem with.
selling penny mining stocks to men I have no problem with
selling crap to people under duress, offering false hope in their moment of weakness, I have a problem with
maybe if they were selling 'CM's Patented Placebo's $10 for a months supply' I could let it go
but they are not, I'm with you, stick it to 'em if you can
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:D

Thanks.
 
There is a clinic in Minsk that treats all manner of malady with hormonal response. Hormonal response produced by eight strokes of the cane on the buttocks of the patient! No ◊◊◊◊! A lot of people swear by it.
 
JJM said:
it is a "form of conjugated estrogens." Now, I don't know exactly to what those estrogens are conjugated; but it has a meaning which a scientist can comprehend.
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I once worked in a pharmaceutical plant--we called them "conjugal estrogens."

Or you could go the other route:

I estrogen
You estrogen
He/she/it estrogens . . . .
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
There is a clinic in Minsk that treats all manner of malady with hormonal response. Hormonal response produced by eight strokes of the cane on the buttocks of the patient! No ◊◊◊◊! A lot of people swear by it.
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:D

I'm sure that the PVC cat suits that they were provided helped them to sweat out the bad humors, too.
 
fls said:
Physicians are not compensated for prescribing HRT.
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nraden said:
Oh yes they are. Many receive kickbacks one way or the other from the compounding pharmacies they (illegally) direct their patients to. Others, like Erika Schwartz, charge $850 for a 15 minute telephone interview and then prescribe without ever seeing the patient, directing them to a pharmacy THEY OWN which dispenses at inflated prices. Most "wellness" doctors sell supplements directly from their offices. Part of the reason so many of the "natural" BHRT docs are up in arms with Wiley is that she threatens their livelihood. She is down on the supplements and strongly suggests (she can't set) that the registered pharmacies not charge more than $37.50 per hormone per month.
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Interesting how Linda seems to be talking about conventional HRT and NRaden is clearly talking about the woos selling "bioidenticals." Not even remotely the same thing.
 
How is it that these threads always wind up the way I predict they will?

Woo goes running scared with tail firmly tucked between legs.


The hell of it is that he/she/it may actually believe the crap they are spewing.
 
I just finished the book. Its okay. It seems to be about fooling nature, so you can "stay young" longer.
Its of interest to me as I am 48 and have been on birth control 3 years. i learned recently I could have gone through menopause without knowing as the pill keeps giving you a period even if you have.
Is menopause really that bad in most cases?
I did the search for this thread as after I had read the book, I was reminded of the idiotic and hurtful comment Randi made in one of his columns saying Suzanne was dead. He said this because of her using homeopathic medicine for her former problem.
I thought that was really low of him. I see she is all healthy now.
 
psy kick said:
I just finished the book. Its okay. It seems to be about fooling nature, so you can "stay young" longer. ...
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It may seem to be about that. It is, in fact, about dangerous overuse of steroids.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/11/from_the_ridiculous_to_the_sublime_a_jou.php :
However, her hormone advocacy is nonetheless not without its price; Somers has had to undergo a hysterectomy for postmenopausal uterine bleeding, which was likely to have been a consequence of her prolonged ingestion of large doses of estrogens.
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The author is a cancer surgeon.

psy kick said:
I did the search for this thread as after I had read the book, I was reminded of the idiotic and hurtful comment Randi made in one of his columns saying Suzanne was dead. He said this because of her using homeopathic medicine for her former problem.
I thought that was really low of him. I see she is all healthy now.
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Randi may have believed Somers' statement that she was using "alternative medicine" to treat her cancer. Actually, she had effective medical treatment which she failed to credit.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2006/05/understanding_alternative_medi_1.php
 
Somers is an ongoint hypocrite that also uses surgery to "stay young". Not just liposuction either. One of these alternatives may make her lose more than her uterus one day, but since she DOES rely on conventional medicine to pull her out of messes, she just might outlive most of her gullible followers.
 
She had mentioned in the book about her hysterectomy. I hadn't known it was because of the estrogen.
It seems staying natural by not taking anything may be the best thing to do as a naturally aging woman.
 
The news that lower use of hormones recently may have led to a decline in breast cancer is in the news these days:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70578

Of course, The "Wiley Protocol" goes way in the wrong direction.

My NPR station has a morning show with two hosts, and they sometimes interview quacks.

So, I wrote to them and suggested they not interview Somers. One host replied there were no such plans. The other wrote that he had been approached, and declined. I asked why he declined the interview, and he replied "Frankly, she scares me."
 
20/20 will be looking into the Wiley Protocol on Friday's airing (here in the States), in a piece titled, "Promises Promises – From losing weight to staying young, how NOT to believe the hype."

One of the interviewees is a breast cancer survivor who tried the protocol and found the side-effects unbearable. It's my understanding that Wiley's suggestions, that she increase her dosages and that she must use only Wiley-branded product, provided no relief from these symptoms. Our fellow forum compatriot, Neil Raden, may actually get some national air-time with the footage ABC News shot of the e-mail he sent this woman after she spoke out publicly about her experiences on the Wiley Protocol, in which he accused her of having a "black heart".

Also interviewed were Suzanne Somers and T.S. Wiley.
 
nraden said:
Thank you for displaying your ignorance:

"The recognition of progesterone's ability to suppress ovulation during pregnancy spawned a search for a similar hormone that could bypass the problems associated with administering progesterone (low bioavailability when administered orally and local irritation and pain when continually administered parentally) and, at the same time, serve the purpose of controlling ovulation. The many synthetic hormones that resulted are known as progestins. Some examples of progestins that have been used in hormonal contraceptives are norethynodrel (Enovid), norethindrone (many brand names, most notably Ortho-Novum and Ovcon) norgestimate (Ortho Tricyclen, Ortho-Cyclen), norgestrel, levonorgestrel (Alesse, Trivora-28), medroxyprogesterone (Provera, Depo-Provera) and desogestrel."
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dude: It's parenterally
 
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