Roberts to Debate Bermas on 'Hardfire'

PerryLogan said:
Someone should start a regular show called "Debating the Insane"--allowing Truthers to destroy themselves in their own words.

By the way, I hope to debate Alex Jones someday--but it'll be a kind of professional wrestling thing, with costumes and masks and temper tantrums and tirades. I'm going to beat Alex over the head with a chair.

Now that's debating.
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Maybe you could get Jerry Springer to host.
 
Ooooo, a debate that involves Jason Bermas? I can totally think up a good drinking game for this. Every time Bermas does that cocky head-bob after saying something that he thinks is clever and un-debunkable, I take a shot. That's probably ill-advised, though, since I don't want to die of alcohol poisoning.
 
chippy said:
Ooooo, a debate that involves Jason Bermas? I can totally think up a good drinking game for this. Every time Bermas does that cocky head-bob after saying something that he thinks is clever and un-debunkable, I take a shot. That's probably ill-advised, though, since I don't want to die of alcohol poisoning.
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and 2 shots if he calls gravy a liar after he debunks it, lol
 
I've just watched the Hardfire video with Les J up to the 18 minute mark or so, and had to stop to comment. His comment about missile batteries around the Pentagon permanently is complete bull, and suddenly nothing else he says can be taken seriously. Isn't he aware that there is a commercial airport just a few miles away? What an outright lie. I'm disgusted.
 
Oh, bob, it just gets worse. In the second one he accuses NIST of using selective data, and this is just after he shows the undamaged side of WTC7.

Then he says a 707 is comparable to a 767. I would have like to call him on that. Isn't that like saying a Ford Model T is comparable to a Ford F150?
 
NobbyNobbs said:
His comment about missile batteries around the Pentagon permanently is complete bull, and suddenly nothing else he says can be taken seriously. Isn't he aware that there is a commercial airport just a few miles away? What an outright lie. I'm disgusted.
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Maybe they're special missile batteries, programmed not to shoot down passenger aircraft.... oh....ummmmmm.... oooops!

:D
 
I don't know the air date. The recording date is December 14. I emailed Bermas and Rowe to be sure they were in. Bermas replied that it's on, "weather permitting." Don't they sell snow tires in Oneonta? I hope I don't have to drive all the way up there to pick them up in my NWO-issue Hummer. It only gets 11 miles to the fetus.
 
Gravy said:
I don't know the air date. The recording date is December 14. I emailed Bermas and Rowe to be sure they were in. Bermas replied that it's on, "weather permitting." Don't they sell snow tires in Oneonta? I hope I don't have to drive all the way up there to pick them up in my NWO-issue Hummer. It only gets 11 miles to the fetus.
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Just watch out for school busses if you take the Hummer:
http://www.break.com/pictures/hots47.html
 
They're all calling it 'pointless' at LC. They're just worried about losing.
 
Gravy said:
I hope I don't have to drive all the way up there to pick them up in my NWO-issue Hummer.
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Maccy, Dave, Architect - how come we only get mopeds?

It's one rule for the damn lazy septic-tanks and another for us accross the pond. UK NWO sucks.














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JAStewart said:
They're all calling it 'pointless' at LC. They're just worried about losing.
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They're also either giving away a big part of their plans for the debate, or they've really embraced the whole "disinfo" thing.
 
Dylan assesses Gravy:
mark roberts is an expert in strawmen and lawyer tactics.
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Hmmm... Where have I heard that before...?

Oh yeah!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8820426888499996890#26m19s

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RANT! STRAWMEN!!! LAWYER TACTICS!!!
 
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Roxdog is setting out his stall early.....


-Who called Rudy Guliani and how did they know the WTC was going to collapse?

-What was the name of the "fire department commander" that called Silverstien and why did he call him? Where did he call him?

-In light of the fact that we still don't have an explanation from the govt. on WTC7, why did they move the debris without figuring out why it fell?

-These four airplanes....where are they currently? What did they do with them?

-Who called Mayor Willie Brown and why?

-CNN and MSNBC reporter Rick Sanchez says a police official told him they had found a "van with a suspicious device" in it. Who was this "police official" and why was he not questioned by the commission?

-Why does my sanity get called into question for asking these simple questions?
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I can think of a very good answer to the last question!
 
Anyone with an account at LC care to open up a can of factass on them? They're saying I made up the claim that truthers say the FDNY was "in on it."

Dylan Avery at LC said:
he plays that card EVERYWHERE. they insist that's what you've said, even if there's no verifiable record of it being done. and he claims we fabricate things? http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1258&view=findpost&p=9758170
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LC Admin IVXX said:
OH that's Classic Roberts right there. He tried putting those words in Alex Jones mouth as well. Check page 30 of his WTC7 paper, it's in there.
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Reggie_perrin concurs:
Where does he get this allegation from ? nobody that ive seen or heard has EVER suggested the firemen were in on it.
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Well, at 40:33 in this video, here's Jason Bermas at Ground Zero on 9/9/06: "The firefighters are paid off!"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8820426888499996890

In the same video, starting at 28:33, Alex Jones begins a string of denials about a subject he brought up:

“See, guys, this is all ‘straw man.’ We never said the firemen were involved. He just claimed we said it. He’s a liar! That’s what liars do. They build straw men.”

“Just like you heard it: he claimed we blamed the firemen. We never said that. He just made it up.”

“He blamed us for saying the firefighters were in on it.”

“He’s claiming I blame firefighters. ...And none of it’s true.”

“He set the subject, he made up that we blame the firefighters.”

Oh?

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Alex Jones’ PrisonPlanet.com, October, 2006: Silverstein, FDNY Decided to “Pull WTC 7”

Prisonplanet.com: Update: People Died in WTC 7: This Makes Silverstein and the FDNY Guilty of AT LEAST Manslaughter

Alex Jones’ Infowars.com, October, 2006: “World Trade Center 7 Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY And Others”

[by the way, no one died at WTC 7]

Feel free to cut and paste the above. Here's the thread:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1258
 
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Gravy said:
Anyone with an account at LC care to open up a can of factass on them? They're saying I made up the claim that truthers say the FDNY was "in on it."
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Why tip your hand? In your place, I'd prepare it -- even bring a tape recorder or laptop or whatever -- and show them where they said so on the air.

Assuming, that is, those liars actually show up. I rather suspect they'll chicken out.
 
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