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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Non Pulverisation

total pulverisation?

ahem:-

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BV
 
Christophera said:
The sheetrock covers a hallway on WTC 2. Why the sheerock still exists attests to the efficiency of the C4 coated rebar.

Remember William Rodriugez and the cracking walls, remember the explosions in the basement.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1205439
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The picture shows you to be wrong on two counts.
You said that the concrete core was installed directly behind the box collumns. If that was true how could there have been space for the sheetrock inbetween the box column and the concrete wall?

Secondly, the sheetrock would not have been there at all if there was a concrete wall that exploded. The idea that a concrete wall could explode without taking the sheetrock out is ludicrous. You are clearly dancing around waving your hands trying to obfuscate clear evidence that you are wrong.
 
Christophera said:
We are all controlled by our unconscious. Being aware of that make some less controllable because reason can sometimes take over.
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Freud was wrong. You do know that, of course.

Your question does not make sense. I'll do my best with it. The documentary had only to do with what was known about the construction in 1987 when the only core that was known was the concrete core.
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An interesting lie. The 1983 documentary showed the STEEL core.

The information has been removed from our society, that's why. If you don't think this is possible? You are exactly what the perps are counting on.
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"If you think the devil doesn't exist, then you are doing exactly what he hopes."

Concrete lasts longer than cellophane.
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It's not any less porous, however.

An excellent question by Big Al, here:

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Chris said:
If the public knew from the start that the towers had a concrete core then they would really wonder why there were no massive chunks of concrete.
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But they didn't say "They'll wonder where the steel core went"?
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On the towers we had 14 inch tempered steel columns 22 inches C to C and getting enough heat to 3 sides on any column to loose significant strength would not be likely. Realize that the top of the columns at each floor is where the majority of the heat will end up.
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Realise why the towers collapsed. Huge concrete floows pulling you down isn't good for columns designed to handle loads differently.

Which makes the issue of the top of WTC 1 falling south a real mystery if collapse is proposed because about 1/2 of the columns on the north side were severed meaning the top should have fallen north, but it fell south.
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This has been dealt with ad nauseam. You're just not reading.

Obsessed with my childrens futures
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YOU HAVE KIDS ????
 
William Rea said:
It is important to know if the towers achieved near free fall conditions because it gives an insight into the possibilities of how the collapse proceeded after initiation. If the timing is 9.15 seconds then this implies that the underlying structure offered no resistance to the fall.
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1) Why would you expect it to offer any significant resistance ?

2) Did you not see the debris fall significantly faster than the rest ?
 
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see this here:-



next time our chris whines that we have shown him NO "raw" evidence of inner core steel columns blah-de-blah refer him to this.
(slideshow of this threads attachments)

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BV
 
Christophera said:
In over 200 pages not one image of steel core columns has been produced by many, many deniers of the concrete core.
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Actually, lost of them have been shown, but haven't been accepted by the denier of the steel core.

The two images that have been produced that might be credibly misinterpreted have been explained and fit reasonably into images of the demo which also show the concrete core.
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All this while no image showing concrete has been equitably explained.
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Except by you, who stated it could also be dust.
 
bonavada said:
lookit............



BV
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BV,

You've made a flash presentation of the same misrepresentations and never explained the core of WTC 2 which can obviously only be concrete.

Those vertical pieces of steel inside the core area are much smaller than the interior box columns labeled "MASSIVE BOX COLUMNS".

You show elevator guide rail but do not locate its support. Those smaller vertical steel members inside the core are elevator guide rail supports. What you imply are "core columns" IS the elevator guide rail support.

You only show interior box columns at ground zero and no one can say otherwise because often there are no references. When there are, it is clear the columns you show are along the walls of the core. interior box columns.

You get the award for the most incompetetnt and erroneous flash presentation.
 
Christophera said:
BV,

You only show interior box columns at ground zero and no one can say otherwise because often there are no references. When there are, it is clear the columns you show are along the walls of the core. interior box columns.

You get the award for the most incompetetnt and erroneous flash presentation.
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No one can find your concrete core!

Still wrong, no evidence, no facts, no concrete core! Wow, still wrong after all those posts!

Another day, another no concrete core day! Five years and you still have it wrong!
 
Christophera said:
You get the award for the most incompetetnt and erroneous flash presentation.
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whatever........don't forget when you finally do step off that fuffy cloud it's a long way back down to earth.

BTW how does this sit with your "total pulverisation":-

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do tell us......

BV
 
Belz... said:
Actually, lost of them have been shown, but haven't been accepted by the denier of the steel core.
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They have been reasonably explained by a person who witness the WTC 1 constrcution and knows the structural elements of the towers. The aerials and the shots looking up showing steel in the core area simply show elevator guide rail supports.

Belz... said:
Except by you, who stated it could also be dust.
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Typically you misrepresent my statement. There is also dust in the photos and I acknowledge that. The dust came from the concrete that has already blown up as this concrete is doing. in a BIG way Leaving interior box columns standing because the box columns cutting charges failed on that side of WTC 1.
 
bonavada said:
whatever........don't forget when you finally do step off that fuffy cloud it's a long way back down to earth.

BTW how does this sit with your "total pulverisation":-

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/8748456afd2214fc5.jpg[/qimg]

do tell us......

BV
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That must be in the mall area not the tower which underwent total pulverization.
 
Christophera said:
They have been reasonably explained by a person who witness the WTC 1 constrcution and knows the structural elements of the towers. The aerials and the shots looking up showing steel in the core area simply show elevator guide rail supports.
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Sorry Chris. It has been shown to you in the past that those columns are not elevator guide rails. The floor plans show elevators that are no where near these columns. The elevators are supported by cables from above the shaft. Guide rails are there for stability along the elevator cab travel not for support and they are attached to the sheetrock not the columns.

Here is an excerpt from an email from Otis, the company that built and installed the elevators in the WTC towers 1&2.:

"Otis did install the original elevators, escalators and dumbwaiters in the whole World Trade Center. Each tower had 104 elevators each. There were 2 types: gearless and geared. The gearless were model numbers 339, 269, 219 and 155. The geared models had various model numbers depending on the installation and use."

http://www.otis.com/products/detail/0,1355,CLI1_PRD741_PRT30_PST48_RES1,00.html
 
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