Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[tsig]

We've moved on from critiquing his arguments to mocking his disabilities. Time for this thread to die I feel.

One last post just give one last post.

 

[tsig]

Correct, basically they have no evidence at all. They do have some misrepresented or misunderstood evidence.

Basically, this thread has proven that there is no raw evidence for any core except the steel reinforced, tubular cast concrete core.

My evidence is so raw it's bloody.

 

[Belz...]

Everyone here has an unconscious mind that controls them, mostly. It is very hard to go against it. You, nobody wants to do that. Often we NEED to.

The only thing unconscious in your mind is your respiratory regulation, language interpretation and so on. There's no such thing as an unconscious "mind".

The Greeks had a structure that worked with this in some ways, the Ego and the Id. The Ego serves the Id.

The Greek. Two thousand years ago ?

Freud ? The ninteenth century ?

Come back to the 21st, please.

 

[Belz...]

First, the people of New York voted it down perhaps 3 times. Rockefeller pushed it and got it built.

So, they built it to be demolished because the people voted it down ? Why build it in the first place ?

Your mind is convoluted, to say the least. Your conscious mind, that is.

The purposes of the demolition were many.

And yet none that someone can explain in a satisfactory manner.

No. Weak would incur liability. Something not under control. The plan is all about control.

The plan ? And you know of this plan how ?

The notable smell which I've read about indicates probably acetone.

So you "believe" ?

The next time you cannot remember something, tell yourself that again, if you can remember.

You do know that memories are rearranged all the time, right ? It's not a recording, or anything similar. And the fact that you forget sometimes simply means that... you've forgotten.

I recognized a demolition immediately as I've done enough demolition of buildings to know what collapses look like.

Yes, but how many high-rise buildings collapsed after beign hit with big planes before 9/11 ? NONE! So how can you make the comparison ?

Planes and fires did not pulverize the towers from the top down.

Good, because they weren't pulverized.

The tower below the impact point because nothing goes down in a collapse until support is removed.

So NO building EVER collapsed EXCEPT during a controlled demolition ? Woah! That's reassuring.

The past we think we have was rewritten about 50-60 years ago.

So people older than 60 don't exist ?

The truth will protect us.

Makes you feel all cozy inside, right ?

 

[Belz...]

Can you understand that the building took the load historically and there was no space for acceleration so there was no energy added?

Ah! So you don't think that 20 floors dropping 2 floors can add enough energy ?

You need to check the calculations, there. If that's your only problem with it, then your work's been done for you, already.

And, if that happened it was not symetrical

Most things aren't.

and the way it did happen was major weakening would have been on the side where the perimeter walls were cut by plane impact meaning the top would have fallen that way but both tops fell another direction.

You did see the damage on the opposite side, right ?

this thread has proven that there is no raw evidence for any core except the steel reinforced, tubular cast concrete core.

No, no. You've admitted that that wasn't "raw" evidence, either. Don't cry.

 

[Christophera]

So the documentary didn't mention c-4 then. YOu just came to the conclusion because of a "plastic" coating that it mean c-4?

I've never stated that. You must prove it.

You will have to prove this or be guilty of misrepresentation. Come back with links please.

I've stated no less than 4 times in the last 20 pges that the documentary had only mentioned a "special anti corrosion, vibration resistant plastic coating"

The RDX [explosive] on the vertical bar was exposed for months due to bad weather, the documentary actually had this information, and the concrete was poured before the "special plastic anti corrosion/vibration coating" was tested. After testing it was determined that it was no longer viable as a protectant. Removal of the concrete was considered but the cost and delay was too much so constrcution continued.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1895911&postcount=3039

Ahem.
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People, I implore you not to continue this. It does not appear to be a healthy situation for anyone.

I find it astounding that Gravy mirepresents my post trying to assert that i think that ANYONE would believe that I saw a documentary which stated a public building was built with high explosives in it. The documentary only stated that the "special plastic coating" had deteriorated through winter weather not that "RDX" had. One poster asks for explanations over and over, finally I explain and make a compound sentence for efficiency and other supporters of murderers infiltrating our gov exploit it by misrepresentation.

This is how the supporters of the infiltrators of the US government work. Suporting the lies with deceit, subterfuge and collusion. No wonder nazi Germany became so powerful with such sick potential for human behavior.

It is only logical with such dominate social fear and NO EVIDENCE that homer and gravy would resort to this sort of thing.

It is absurd to think that TV would present a documentary about the constrcution of a tower built with high explosive in it. I whttp://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4240&stc=1&d=1164390081ould never present that. I would reasonably explain how I DETERMINED that the "special plastic coatnig" had to be high explosives becuase the below image shows a tower being taken out from the top down through total pulverization by optimally contained, placed and distributed high explosives.

The precision constructed exploding planes of the core even leave telltale shapes in the expanding debris waves.


http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4240&stc=1&d=1164390081

 

[Christophera]

Ah! So you don't think that 20 floors dropping 2 floors can add enough energy ?

IF there was a drop, which there was not, it would not be symetrical, and the assymetry would favor the side with the physical damage not the impossible damage to steel by mere fuel fires having inadequate ventilation to develop higher heat. As if that heat was enough under optimum, impossible conditions.

Get real. This was the most sophisticated demolition to ever take place. So sophisticated that people hardly recognize the uses of high explosives. Stop supporting the obvious infiltration of the US government.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4242&stc=1&d=1164390670

 

[Christophera]

So, they built it to be demolished because the people voted it down ? Why build it in the first place ?

You've forgotton how hitler and goering used the riechstag. The improved the technique and built a bigger and better "custom" event.

You are too easy to fool, believing the "bigger lie" more "outrageos lie" as herman goering asserted human nature would dictate. Predictable. You are another form of puppet.

 

[Z]

So what are you going to do about it?

 

[Timble]

You've forgotton how hitler and goering used the riechstag. The improved the technique and built a bigger and better "custom" event.

You are too easy to fool, believing the "bigger lie" more "outrageos lie" as herman goering asserted human nature would dictate. Predictable. You are another form of puppet.

Godwin's law, or have we passed that point before?

 

[Bell]

Get real. This was the most sophisticated demolition to ever take place. So sophisticated that people hardly recognize the uses of high explosives.

So sophisticated, no one but a dillusional ditch digger can recognize the demolition from one single still picture, out of a fast evolving event.

Get real, indeed.

 

[delphi_ote]

You are too easy to fool, believing the "bigger lie" more "outrageos lie" as herman goering asserted human nature would dictate. Predictable. You are another form of puppet.

The "Big Lie" was attributed to the Jews by the Nazis.

 

[jhunter1163]

I'm not sure why I still read this thread. It reminds me of a slow-motion train wreck.. it's horrifying, but I can't look away....

 

[Bell]

Groundhog Day

 

[delphi_ote]

Groundhog Day

But we'll never get it right no matter how many times we re-live it.

 

[hcmom]

But we'll never get it right no matter how many times we re-live it.

Can't fix it, can't kill it, can't leave it alone...this thread is becoming scary...

 

[Christophera]

Get real. This was the most sophisticated demolition to ever take place. So sophisticated that people hardly recognize the uses of high explosives.

So sophisticated, no one but a dillusional ditch digger can recognize the demolition from one single still picture, out of a fast evolving event.

Get real, indeed.

Your basic irresponsiility and unaccountabilty to reason is only surpassed by your childish tendancy to apply cognitive distortions such as LABELING in futile attempts to minimize the import of the facts.

There are many images which show well contained high explosives detonating.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

 

[Powa]

Groundhog Day

Seriously, it looks like Chris resets every night and starts each new morning fresh, as if he wasn't proven wrong the day before.

Retrograde amnesia perhaps?

 

[Christophera]

The "Big Lie" was attributed to the Jews by the Nazis.

Have you got a reference to that?

 

[Christophera]

So what are you going to do about it?

Make an aussie airhead look like a fool helping infiltrating murderers of Americans infiltrate even further to continue to damage global diplomatic relations.