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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Christophera said:
You are not reading, or you do not make sense.
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How is not wanting to know the truth in your unconsious mind?

Does everyone here have this problem? Is that the only reason none of your theories can stand up to the facts?
 
Garb said:
Where would this momentum come from that would be able to push a part of the tower sideways?
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Your understanding of the event is deficient. "Push" is not possible or needed. Tilt and topple are the words. Tilt from the structure on one side being damaged losing its bearing capacity adn toppling is the normal, expected event.

Garb said:
That isn't forensic evidence.
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The images of the demo are as close as you and I are going to get.

Garb said:
Sure, with the images that you cherrypick. You use maybe 5 images total, and you do not use any other pictures from that day, or video.
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There are about 17 images that i use to make my point. Seven are from 9-11. Video just is not needed and too difficult to use, except for tis one where emergency personel present at the scene on 9-11 describe detonations "as if it were a demolition".

http://algoxy.com/psych/images/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg

Garb said:
You cannot tell whether is it fine powder, let alone if that powder is concrete.
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Are you trying to say that I or anyone should believe steel will be turned to the dust, sand and gravel we know was present?
 
Christophera said:
Are you trying to say that I or anyone should believe steel will be turned to the dust, sand and gravel we know was present?
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Are you trying to say that I or anyone should believe that a country should spend countless millions of dollars designing a fantastic structure but deliberately build in a self-destruct system for some unspecified time in the future when they might just need it as an excuse to invade some unknown country?
 
Christophera said:
Nearly all plastics are soluable in some solvent. Acetone I believe will cut it.
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You "believe" ?

The unconscious does not make sense.
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It also doesn't exist.

That only explains holes in the towers and fires, perhaps at the most the top falling off of a tower.
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Let's just say I don't trust your expertise in terms of building demolitions.

The towers were built much stronger than FEMA and NIST assert.
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I do believe that's the whole point, isn't it ? Something snapped when you saw the towers collapse. Somehow you're convinced that they couldn't possibly collapse, and the concrete core idea came along to compensate.
 
Christophera said:
Your understanding of the event is deficient. "Push" is not possible or needed. Tilt and topple are the words.
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You must've failed your physics classes. In order for it to topple, something has to work against it going downwards.

The images of the demo are as close as you and I are going to get.
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Just like they're "close" to beign "raw" evidence ?

Video just is not needed and too difficult to use
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Of course. Once you watch the videos the fact that it's a simple collapse seems more obvious.

Are you trying to say that I or anyone should believe steel will be turned to the dust, sand and gravel we know was present?
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No one said the steel was turned to dust. We can see lots of it among the rubble.
 
hcmom said:
Huh? According to you, they were built basically to be able to self-destruct. That would be a weakness in my book....
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No, no, no! The towers were built to be VERY strong, MUCH MUCH stronger than the NIST claims. Obviously, since they collapsed, they had to have been demolished, which means they were BUILT with self-destruct capabilities to compensate for their great strength!

Of course, why the conspirators didn't just build them with steel and have pig planes crash into them is beyond me.
 
Belz... said:
No, no, no! The towers were built to be VERY strong, MUCH MUCH stronger than the NIST claims. Obviously, since they collapsed, they had to have been demolished, which means they were BUILT with self-destruct capabilities to compensate for their great strength!

Of course, why the conspirators didn't just build them with steel and have pig planes crash into them is beyond me.
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Hmmmmm...ok, let me see if I get it...

The towers were built so strong that they had to have self-destruct capabilities built in so they'd be weak enough 40 some odd years later, so that a guy who was 20 years old when they were built would be able to orchestrate the biggest prank ever?
 
Garb said:
How is not wanting to know the truth in your unconsious mind?
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Your unconscious controls you. Even the thoughts you have that say otherwise, giving it more control.

Garb said:
Does everyone here have this problem?
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Everyone here has an unconscious mind that controls them, mostly. It is very hard to go against it. You, nobody wants to do that. Often we NEED to.

Garb said:
Is that the only reason none of your theories can stand up to the facts?
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You do not want to know the truth so your unconscious has created an attitude for you to percieve from. All of your perceptions are processed by an attitude that your unconscious controls then your conscious fits your perceptions in to that (according to the pre established priorities of the unconscious has created) to make you comfortable with what you think your existence is.

The Greeks had a structure that worked with this in some ways, the Ego and the Id. The Ego serves the Id.
 
Big Al said:
Are you trying to say that I or anyone should believe that a country should spend countless millions of dollars designing a fantastic structure but deliberately build in a self-destruct system for some unspecified time in the future when they might just need it as an excuse to invade some unknown country?
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First, the people of New York voted it down perhaps 3 times. Rockefeller pushed it and got it built.

The purposes of the demolition were many.
 
hcmom said:
Huh? According to you, they were built basically to be able to self-destruct. That would be a weakness in my book....
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No. Weak would incur liability. Something not under control. The plan is all about control.

Your book was written by them. Trash it. Open your eyes and mind to the truth of the past. Rewrite your book to serve YOU.
 
Christophera said:
Your unconscious controls you. Even the thoughts you have that say otherwise, giving it more control.



Everyone here has an unconscious mind that controls them, mostly. It is very hard to go against it. You, nobody wants to do that. Often we NEED to.



You do not want to know the truth so your unconscious has created an attitude for you to percieve from. All of your perceptions are processed by an attitude that your unconscious controls then your conscious fits your perceptions in to that (according to the pre established priorities of the unconscious has created) to make you comfortable with what you think your existence is.

The Greeks had a structure that worked with this in some ways, the Ego and the Id. The Ego serves the Id.
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How can you fight aginst the unconscious? We are all doomed. Mankind is doomed. Why argue when we have no choice?

Is this my Ego or my Id?
 
Belz... said:
You "believe" ?
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Yes, or alcohol. The notable smell which I've read about indicates probably acetone.

Belz... said:
It also doesn't exist.
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The next time you cannot remember something, tell yourself that again, if you can remember.

Belz... said:
I do believe that's the whole point, isn't it ? Something snapped when you saw the towers collapse. Somehow you're convinced that they couldn't possibly collapse, and the concrete core idea came along to compensate.
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No, nothing snapped. I recognized a demolition immediately as I've done enough demolition of buildings to know what collapses look like. I bumped them in the right place and they collapsed.

Planes and fires did not pulverize the towers from the top down.
 
Christophera said:
No. Weak would incur liability. Something not under control. The plan is all about control.

Your book was written by them. Trash it. Open your eyes and mind to the truth of the past. Rewrite your book to serve YOU.
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If it were my book to rewrite, I would have written it to begin with.

This is only my opinion here, but exhorting people to rewrite books to serve themselves is not going to improve the situation any...
 
Christophera said:
Yes, or alcohol. The notable smell which I've read about indicates probably acetone.



The next time you cannot remember something, tell yourself that again, if you can remember.



No, nothing snapped. I recognized a demolition immediately as I've done enough demolition of buildings to know what collapses look like. I bumped them in the right place and they collapsed.

Planes and fires did not pulverize the towers from the top down.
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WOW Chris the giant destroyer of buildings. Do you do nuecs also?
 
hcmom said:
If it were my book to rewrite, I would have written it to begin with.

This is only my opinion here, but exhorting people to rewrite books to serve themselves is not going to improve the situation any...
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The past we think we have was rewritten about 50-60 years ago.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63738

Something else people don't want to know. Media has been telling them they know the truth all their lives.
 
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