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Lieberman calls for assassination of Hamas leaders

I can never decide whom I should support in that conflict. The side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels, or the side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels.
 
Foster Zygote said:
I can never decide whom I should support in that conflict. The side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels, or the side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels.
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Take the Giants, give 5 points.
MNF schedule said:
11 20-Nov NY Giants at Jacksonville 8:30
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The thrower of "the rock," Byron Leftwich, is not named David. The Giants won't be knocked out.

Oh, wait, Byron Leftwich is out with injury! The Jacksonville rock thrower is David Garrard!

On second thought, you might not want to bet the Giants. :p

*makes quick call to bookie, to change betting line . . . *

DR
 
Foster Zygote said:
I can never decide whom I should support in that conflict. The side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels, or the side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels.
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Almost as hard as deciding which side to wear your hump on.

(Very briefly, I used Igor as my avatar before I settled on the SkepTick)
 
Lieberman actually did it with more style than the link described. He called for the Hamas leaders to be "sent to paradise".
 
Foster Zygote said:
I can never decide whom I should support in that conflict. The side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels, or the side that thinks it has God's blessing to kill the infidels.
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Actually, that literally is a misstatement. Hammas thinks it has the blessing to kill infidels. I srael thinks it should have everyones' blessing to kill murdering cowards that hide behind women and children (proven recently for those who kept calling "evidence".) to avoid punishment for those murders.
 
fuelair said:
Actually, that literally is a misstatement. Hammas thinks it has the blessing to kill infidels. I srael thinks it should have everyones' blessing to kill murdering cowards that hide behind women and children (proven recently for those who kept calling "evidence".) to avoid punishment for those murders.
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You'd think Israel and Hamas were married, the way they talk. :D

DR
 
fuelair said:
I srael thinks it should have everyones' blessing to kill murdering cowards that hide behind women and children (proven recently for those who kept calling "evidence".) to avoid punishment for those murders.
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Add without concepts like due process, right to counsel, right to a jury, right to appeal or with respect to international law.
 
Ziggurat said:
All concepts from civilian law. All irrelevant during war.



WHICH "international law", pray tell?
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Are Israel and Hamas at war to the extent that Geneva plays into this?

Sure, functionally, the "war as armed political act" is underway, and has been for decades. As I see the players acting it out, they are treating it somewhat differently than under Marquis de Queensburh Rules. My view may be a bit skewed.

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
Are Israel and Hamas at war to the extent that Geneva plays into this?
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They're at war enough that I don't care if an organization which has called for the destruction of an entire state has its leadership destroyed by that state. There is, after all, an easy way out of that predicament for Hamas: simply recognize Israel's right to exist. If they cannot even do that, well, Darwin's got a way of sorting these things out.
 
I agree. As posted above, Hamas has made it very clear that they desire the destruction of the state of Israel. They've punctuated those statements with repeated acts of violence directed at the state of Israel. Why shouldn't Israel respond by targeting the leadership of Hamas?
 
Ziggurat said:
They're at war enough that I don't care if an organization which has called for the destruction of an entire state has its leadership destroyed by that state. There is, after all, an easy way out of that predicament for Hamas: simply recognize Israel's right to exist. If they cannot even do that, well, Darwin's got a way of sorting these things out.
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OK, if the current leadership is successfully whacked by a helicopter gunship attack, does Hamas fold, or does it regenerate new leadership?

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
OK, if the current leadership is successfully whacked by a helicopter gunship attack, does Hamas fold, or does it regenerate new leadership?
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In all likelihood, they regenerate. But that costs. New leaders have less experience, and there may be internal struggles over who gets control which will preoccupy them for at least. That they will likely replace their leadership does not mean it wouldn't negatively impact them and their ability to carry out their war against Israel.
 
Ziggurat said:
In all likelihood, they regenerate. But that costs. New leaders have less experience, and there may be internal struggles over who gets control which will preoccupy them for at least. That they will likely replace their leadership does not mean it wouldn't negatively impact them and their ability to carry out their war against Israel.
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And their patrons (those providing funding) don't act as a stablizing influence?

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
And their patrons (those providing funding) don't act as a stablizing influence?
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that the leadership helps keep the violence from spinning out of control? Maybe. But that hasn't helped Israel one bit. Israel, being the stronger party in the conflict, is at an advantage, not a disadvantage, if the pace of conflict increases. If that's not what you meant, then you'll need to clarify before I can respond.
 
Ziggurat said:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Are you suggesting that the leadership helps keep the violence from spinning out of control? Maybe. But that hasn't helped Israel one bit. Israel, being the stronger party in the conflict, is at an advantage, not a disadvantage, if the pace of conflict increases. If that's not what you meant, then you'll need to clarify before I can respond.
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I don't think that Hamas is as dependent on a few charismatic leaders as some other movements, and I understand that siginficant levels of fiscal support to Hamas come from "sympathetic" Arabs in a number of countries. So, a few leaders going down does not change the structure, nor the capability, to restore the effort, though it might cause trouble during an interim election to replace said assassinated leadership as the next rung down jockey's for position.

Any reduced effectiveness would be IMO short, and temporary.

DR
 
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