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Silly British Conspiraloons

its very sad...the whole conspiracy movemant. they see governmant agents under every rock...listening behind every tree. it must suck to see the world that way.

im just glad that most people see what most conspiracy theories are....paranoid, irrational, delusions.

The irony is, that two 'leading lights' in the 9/11 Truth Cult here in the UK, Annie Machon & David Shayler, are real-life ex-MI5 officers, although I'm really not convinced of the "ex" bit. It's almost funny--these characters call everybody a "shill" and Machon has claimed critics of the cult, including myself, are ourselves in the pay of MI5.
 
The irony is, that two 'leading lights' in the 9/11 Truth Cult here in the UK, Annie Machon & David Shayler, are real-life ex-MI5 officers, although I'm really not convinced of the "ex" bit. It's almost funny--these characters call everybody a "shill" and Machon has claimed critics of the cult, including myself, are ourselves in the pay of MI5.

Yeah, Shayler at least has somewhat more reason than most to be paranoid. What with his belief that holograms were used instead of planes on 9/11 (missiles apparently brought down the WTC) and his alleged belief that lizard aliens were involved, he does seem to have gone a bit deep into that rabbit hole.

In terms of 'shills', I've also heard suggestions that Shayler still works for MI5 - who are using him to discredit the UK 'truth' movement. I don't believe this is true, but Shayler talking about holograms, aliens etc. does a much better job of discrediting the movement than a whole bunch of skeptics could :D

Anyway, I've invoiced MI5 and Mossad, but haven't got my cheque yet. B***ards :mad:
 
Is there any other group of people in the world with this bizarre mental tic of calling everyone and his brother an agent?

It's the mark of the conspiracy nut, isn;t it? Anyone who disagrees is instantly called a shill or an agent--never with a shred of proof. The CTs obviously see nothing weird or unusual in such behavior, yet it sets them completely apart from any other group you can name.

It's got to be a mental disorder.
 
wow, the discussion gets better:

Patrick Brown wrote:
The cross is derived from the cube (see image above) but esoterically it is the denier of death and therefore the anti-cube. The image of Jesus on the cross is symbolic of his denial of fear and death. Most people think they are seeing a dead man on the cross but in fact he is still alive.

So as said even some Jew's see the hexagram as an Occult symbol. Of course munky you're right to point out it's a symbol that is used by a whole host of people in a variety of ways. But it's true meaning may well be hidden within it's archetypal symmetry.

Psychologists observe that young children are predisposed to reproducing certain geometric shapes and repetitious patterns. The spiral the six pointed star and the daisy-chaining of the figure eight are the most common. The complexities behind such archetypal representations are far beyond the scope of this comment but Carl Jung's research into archetypes and the collective unconscious may be helpful to those interested.
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The only esoteric thing about the Union Jack is it's proportions of 2 to 1 everything else about the flag points to a balancing of opposing forces. Perhaps the munky can enlighten me to the “esoteric, occult symbol, representing pain, suffering, torture, and death”? I very much doubt he can so again we see more lies and sophistry.

btw, the wikipedia article on the symbolism of the crucifix in Roman times is interesting. I'd always figured that that shape came into use just because attaching one bit of wood to another is pretty straightforward, and it's a pretty nasty thing to do to people you don't like (victims could survive for days...) According to wikipedia, even in Roman times crucifixtion was seen as an especially nasty way to go.
 
and better still...

Patrick Brown said:
The Union Jack is an esoteric symbol of life and because I have a set of keys I could explain to you what it means but you're not worthy. Satanist follow the lesser light but that's something to chat about another day. Look what happens when fools think they understand the esoteric nature of the universe, they use the symbol of death on their flag and don't even realise it!

I think you should do your homework munky boy: http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html
 
Mary, Mother of God!

Wow....just wow.

I hadn't touched the British forum. When I did, for some odd reson, that was the second thread I chose (the first being the rules).

He just took that conversation into a sudden, sharp left turn into Crazyville.

You make a statement about how the conspiracists are drawing away from the rest of the world (using the dark hole analogy) and he jumps right into how it seems the Jews are obsessed with death and fear. How exactly did he make that connection in his very next post?
 
Reminds me of the problems Jon Ronson had in figuring out where David Icke was coming from. With people like Brown, it's hard to know if they're delusional (Ronson concluded that 'lizards' wasn't Icke's code word for 'Jews' - he really believes in alien lizards), racist (and therefore making things up) or racist and delusional.

I have to stop reading that thread before my head explodes ;)
 
Patrick Brown breaks it down

Patrick Brown said:
A quick once over of the esoteric nature of the British flag.

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The red cross divides the flag into the four seasons.

Include the arms of the red cross and you have 12 sections i.e. The 12 signs of the zodiac and the 12 months of the year.

Starting at the left top you will notice there is one small triangle and one larger one. If you go through the four seasons clockwise you will notice something. What you are seeing is a symbolic representation of the increase and then decrease in daylight.

The ratio of the flag is 2 to 1 so the flag is like two squares and each square has a hidden circle. This in one sense represents the sun and the moon. The two hidden circles also represent the the equinoxes as each circle is perfectly divided in half as with equal day and night. The two hidden circles also represent the movement of the sun from the winter solstice, on the left, to the summer solstice, on the right, and then the return to winter.
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Zionism "the work of Satan", "a sacrilege" and "a blasphemy".
“Six million Jews were killed as a result of the Zionists”
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=38630#38630
 
Hey,at least Patrick went on to clear it all up and explain exactly what is going on.

Don't kid yourself munky as we have all seen how you have stumbled an shown yourself a fool and shill on many an occasion.

911 was a creation of sin and satanic perversion most people here know that and you have been 100% outed as a lackey of the OCT. Regardless of the esoteric ranting you have been proven to be a shill on numerous occasions.

The truth is simple and the spin of your team is that of complexity and confusion i.e the joining of chaos with chaos.

If I was you I would start to worry as the sun will rise tomorrow and your lies will be as echoes from the bottomless pit.

:jaw-dropp
 
Wow...

That interpretaton of the Union Jack is awesome. I love CTers. You can't make this stuff up!

-Gumboot
 
Along with calling everyone a government shill, true-blue conspiracy people have this obsession with signs and symbols.

Apparently the bad guys like to put their symbols on things, in a really obvious way. But only the conspiracy folks can see the symbols. Damn.

You've probably all heard the lore about symbols on the American dollar bill. David Icke has a rap about how the map of Washington DC forms a picture of an owl.

Here's Alex Jones pointing out the Illuminati symbols on coffee cups:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxXM65-RplA
 
Wait a second, I think Patrick is onto something. If I look closely at the Welsh flag, I think I can just about make out some hidden picture, some kind of large demonic lizard. Maybe it's been there all the time and I've never noticed it, or maybe the NWO and Zionists have secretly added it post-911

:WALES:
 
Forgive my ignorance, but isn't it technically only called the "Union Jack" when at sea (or on a Marvel Super-hero)? Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but isn't it technically only called the "Union Jack" when at sea (or on a Marvel Super-hero)? Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

Yes, it should be called the Union Flag when on land.

As the lovely Billie Piper explains at 1:40 here:

 
It is also correct to call it the "Union Jack", even when it isn't worn as
a "jack". Such usage has been sanctioned by both the the Admiralty
and by Parliament.
 

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