Star Wars Beam Weapon and the WTC Bathtub

R.Mackey said:
All kidding aside, though, I'd anticipate this Beam Weapon o' Doom to have a significant and noticeable diffraction limited effect, given the size of the beam, it's anticipated origin, and the power levels involved.

You'd almost surely see a Gaussian distribution of damage, leaving quite ordinary craters. The only alternative would be to see Fraunhofer patterns. Clean-edged circles, though -- just not possible.

Pathetic. Even if you buy every step of his argument, it still points 180 degrees away from his conclusions...
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There you go, bringing facts into it again. When will you guys learn?
 
Just another point...assuming this is a space-based weapon, it must be in geosynch orbit, otherwise it wouldn't have been able to fire enough times to make those holes.

If plane-based, that's a hella-big plane, and it would've been flying about for some time.

Even assuming some sooper-sekrit-mega-stealth-mule-kick-power-rangers-go-silent-invisible-nondiffracting-ultra-powerful-powerpuff-girls giganto laser is possible, the firing patterns don't line up. Not to mention that would've had to have been bursts, rather than continuous fire (which, with a moving beam, would leave roughly linear damage tracks).
 
PooperScooper321, have you ever been abducted and probed by aliens?
 
Huntsman said:
Just another point...assuming this is a space-based weapon, it must be in geosynch orbit, otherwise it wouldn't have been able to fire enough times to make those holes.

If plane-based, that's a hella-big plane, and it would've been flying about for some time.
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You're assuming they'd have to be in a free-fall orbit. If they have control of this sort of power in a space-based system, they could very well be in a powered orbit, that allows them to remain on-station even if they aren't in Geosync orbit.

And of course the whole shebang would have to be seriously stealthed to avoid being tracked visually, or on radar. Oh, and invulnerable, so the LEO sattelites that would hit it won't damage it. Oh, and a large supply of extra (and identical!) sattelites to spit out the back to replace the ones that ran into it.

Nothing too complicated in that, is there?
 
Huntsman said:
Just another point...assuming this is a space-based weapon, it must be in geosynch orbit, otherwise it wouldn't have been able to fire enough times to make those holes.

If plane-based, that's a hella-big plane, and it would've been flying about for some time.

Even assuming some sooper-sekrit-mega-stealth-mule-kick-power-rangers-go-silent-invisible-nondiffracting-ultra-powerful-powerpuff-girls giganto laser is possible, the firing patterns don't line up. Not to mention that would've had to have been bursts, rather than continuous fire (which, with a moving beam, would leave roughly linear damage tracks).
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a geosynch orbit would have to be over the equator, but the holes are straight down, implying a direct fly-over, so it woul dhave to be an aircraft, perhaps TR-3B? lol

A speech given at the International UFO Congress, in Laughlin, Nevada in 1998 by Edgar Rothschild Fouche, (an engineer who claims to have worked at Area 51), suggests that the Black Triangle is a Top Secret, experimental, U.S. Air Force vehicle known as the TR-3B, code named "Astra".

The TR-3B is supposed to be a 600 foot wide (180 m), triangular aerospace vehicle that utilizes a nuclear reactor to generate an intense magnetic field that negates Earth's gravitational forces on the mass of the vehicle by 89%, rendering it extremely lightweight. It also manipulates this field for propulsion and can maneuver on the spot, vertically and horizontally, at incredible speeds up to Mach 9, and climb to an altitude of 120,000 feet (36.6 km). The aircraft is also equipped with advanced Electromagnetic Counter Measures ECM systems that render it nearly invisible to radar, or makes the craft appear as an aircraft of smaller size than it really is.
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600ftwide, big enough to hold the 50 foot laser

nuclear reactor, should be enough to juice the thing

able to hover

radar invisible (not optically invisible though, hmm)


i think we have a winner :D
 
defaultdotxbe said:
600ftwide, big enough to hold the 50 foot laser

nuclear reactor, should be enough to juice the thing

able to hover

radar invisible (not optically invisible though, hmm)


i think we have a winner :D
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Pshaw! Now you're just being foolish. I demand that you acknowledge my ideas are better than yours!
 
Hey guys, another little thing about the round holes. I'm no expert here, but with impact craters, the crater is always larger than the object, and often times the meteorite is far from being round, yet the crater is always very circular. It would seem to me that the debris that made the holes in the buildings was most likely smaller than the holes, and the shock from impact spread in a circular wave out from the point of impact. I'd wager it was the outer support members (That are seen allllll over those pictures) that caused the damage, after all, some of those larger chunks must have weighed many tons and should easily have been able to punch through a building. Please correct me if my thinking is off on this.
 
defaultdotxbe said:
hmmph, what evidence do you have that such a satellite-destroying-satellite-repalcing satellite exists?
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Well, the satellites are still there, aren't they? Therefore, they must have been replaced. The four rats have demonstrated it*.


defaultdotxbe said:
do you have anyone who worked at area 51? :p
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Why yes, yes I do. Modesty prevents me from IDing myself him.




*Quad Erat Demonstrandum, QED. How else would you translate it?
 
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Just to get us back on track. Notice the red arrow. TS1234's round beam seems to have cut a very nice right angle. I know a lot of woodworkers who'd like to learn that trick. It would save a fortune on mortising jigs.
 
Belz... said:
Did you have fun placing red dots at random places ?

You missed a few, by the way.


Now, I'd agree that it's kinda funny how those round-ish shapes seem all over the place,
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Yes, I have missed a few. I only placed dots where I saw round boundry conditions that matched the diameter. Yes, isn't it strange how everywhere there is a darker area, (indicating a greater depth of penetration), there are these matching diameters.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Yes, I have missed a few. I only placed dots where I saw round boundry conditions that matched the diameter. Yes, isn't it strange how everywhere there is a darker area, (indicating a greater depth of penetration), there are these matching diameters.
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That's like, totally weird, dude. Since the outside of the WTC was made of similar prefabricated elements of 3 horizontal and 3 vertical elements. I think you're onto something here!

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TruthSeeker1234 said:
Yes, I have missed a few. I only placed dots where I saw round boundry conditions that matched the diameter. Yes, isn't it strange how everywhere there is a darker area, (indicating a greater depth of penetration), there are these matching diameters.
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i think your standards of "same diameter" are pitiful at best

but assuming these are the deepest holes, and they are the same size, perhaps its because they were made by the same type of debris? we know the facade broke into more of less regular sized-sections (because they broke at the joints) perhaps those caused several holes of the same size
 
defaultdotxbe said:
i think your standards of "same diameter" are pitiful at best

but assuming these are the deepest holes, and they are the same size, perhaps its because they were made by the same type of debris? we know the facade broke into more of less regular sized-sections (because they broke at the joints) perhaps those caused several holes of the same size
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Or the holes are partially constrained by the regular spacing of the roof structure. But probably a combination of both factors.

The larger holes would be where a large enough piece of debris directly impacted a cross beam, causing more damage in that local area, which was constrained by the next beam over. Take a look at my picture with the lines. I'd like to see TS's explanation for how so many holes line up in such neat rows, even when on opposite ends of the building.

Seriously, does anyone have a diagram of the beam structure for this building?
 
Horatius said:
Or the holes are partially constrained by the regular spacing of the roof structure. But probably a combination of both factors.

The larger holes would be where a large enough piece of debris directly impacted a cross beam, causing more damage in that local area, which was constrained by the next beam over. Take a look at my picture with the lines. I'd like to see TS's explanation for how so many holes line up in such neat rows, even when on opposite ends of the building.

Seriously, does anyone have a diagram of the beam structure for this building?
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easy, the laser blasted the building in a back and forth pattern to maximize damage, lol
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Yes, I have missed a few. I only placed dots where I saw round boundry conditions that matched the diameter. Yes, isn't it strange how everywhere there is a darker area, (indicating a greater depth of penetration), there are these matching diameters.
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Boundary conditions? Do you even know what they are? Why not just say depressions or holes...something like that? Everytime you use language thats over your head - it makes you sound foolish, TS. I recommend you stop trying to sound smart, because every time you try to do so - the outcome is 180 degrees out of phase with your expectation and exponentially inversely proportional to your credibility.
 
btw, can we conclude that TS1234 does not believe the towers were blown by explosives? At least that's something we can build on.
 
Bell said:
btw, can we conclude that TS1234 does not believe the towers were blown by explosives? At least that's something we can build on.
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Blown to kingdom come by explosives, then massive holes drilled into the debris w/ a star wars beam weapon...

This is comedy gold! :p
 
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