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Frank Greening Refuted Easily

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Frank Greening is divorced from reality. He imagines a scenario that is easily, thoroughly refuted by the the video evidence. Greening says:

We now apply this simple model to the WTC collapse. We assume that both
WTC building collapses began with an upper block of nfloors collapsing onto a series of
lower floors as in the “domino effect”. We shall refer to this process as the first stage of
collapse. For this stage, (see equation 1), we have an initial mass nmf falling onto the
floor below and becoming mass (n+1)mf. This new, enlarged, block of floors descends
with velocity v2= {n/(n+1)}v1through a distance hfat which point itstrikes the floor
below and becomes mass (n+2)mf moving at velocity {n/(n+2)}v2, and so on. This
implies a first stage collapse sequence for WTC 1: all floors from 110 to 96 (= 14 floors)
collapse onto floor 95; all these floors collapse onto 94 93 92 and so on to 32 
1; for WTC 2 all floors from 110 to 81 (= 29 floors) follow the same sequential process.
At the end of each of these collapse events we envision a second stage of collapse
involving the destruction of the upper block of the WTC buildings: for WTC 1 the 97th
floor, plus all floors above, collapse onto the pile of rubble topped by floor 96; this is
followed by floor 98 (plus all floors above) collapsing onto floor 97 and so on. The 2nd
stage sequence for WTC 1 ends with floor 110 collapsing on to all lower floors. For
WTC 2 the 2ndstage involves floor 82 collapsing onto floor 81, followed by 83, 84, etc,
collapsing on to the pile of rubble until floor 110 collapses onto all lower floors.

Yo, Frank. Look at this. Your "Stage 2" begins before "Stage 1".

WTC1_redLines.gif
 
Yo, Frank. Look at this. Your "Stage 2" begins before "Stage 1".

[qimg]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/present/WTC1_redLines.gif[/qimg]

Therefore, the collapse will be even faster than he calculates.
 
Frank Greening is divorced from reality. He imagines a scenario that is easily, thoroughly refuted by the the video evidence. Greening says:



Yo, Frank. Look at this. Your "Stage 2" begins before "Stage 1".

[qimg]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/present/WTC1_redLines.gif[/qimg]

What does a B-list television music composer know about physics and engineering?
 
Truthseeker, seriously, do you get a boner everytime you watch these people being crushed?
 
It wasn't a typo.

I'm really sick of these Troofers posting these images over and over again.
 
TS.

Maybe you should get in touch with Dr Greening and offer up your point by point rebuttal.

BTW, your smugness and mockery of this event is clear for all to see and has been for some time.

Try acting with a degree of respect for this event and you may get some level of civility. At this moment you deserve complete contempt for your treatment of this event and those involved in it.
 
TS.

Try acting with a degree of respect for this event and you may get some level of civility. At this moment you deserve complete contempt for your treatment of this event and those involved in it.

LOL nice try stateofgrace. If TS was actually concerned about the ramafications of his accusations, he would have manifested some respect long ago.

The fact remains that for TS and those like him, this is simply an intellectual excorcise, some kind of sick game, and not some true investigation.

What is sad is that TS mentions that he has kids.

I don't know about YOU, TS, but I teach my kids rational and critical thinking.
 
Yes, TS, why dont you contact Mr. Greening with your counter theory, or even with your "correction" of his. I am sure he can set you straight on the whole thing.

TAM
 
So when are these idiots going to realise that a heavily edited videoclip with more missing frames than Bush is missing braincells doesn't constitute legal evidence?
 
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Frank Greening is divorced from reality. He imagines a scenario that is easily, thoroughly refuted by the the video evidence. Greening says:



Yo, Frank. Look at this. Your "Stage 2" begins before "Stage 1".

WOW,

now we know the video evidence debunks all CT truth movement liars.

Thanks for proving all CT experts wrong in one simple post.

u b done - simple use a CTer to debunk all of CT crazy land, good job TS
 
Yo, Frank. Look at this. Your "Stage 2" begins before "Stage 1".

Huh? Please explain why you believe that video supports that assertion. It just looks like stage 1, as Greening described it, with the air being compressed and blowing smoke and dust out. The corner, which is the only part seen clearly, is still intact. Do you have xray vision?
 
So, which floor is represented by the lower line in that animation? Wouldn't that matter for an assertion that his analysis is "refuted easily"?
 
Frank Greening is divorced from reality. He imagines a scenario that is easily, thoroughly refuted by the the video evidence. Greening says:



Yo, Frank. Look at this. Your "Stage 2" begins before "Stage 1".

Hmmm...

Perhaps you can explain what you see, I see it as Mr Greening is trying to explain it...

I see nothing refuting it in the animated .gif you posted...
 
OK. I'll explain. Greening says that the top block of floors fell down through the intact structure below. Stage A.

Then, says Greening, the top block, now sitting on top of the pile of rubble, collapses floor by floor from the bottom up. Stage B.

Clearly, as shown in the gif, the top block begins collapsing from the bottom up. This is what Greening says happens, only he says this process begins after it pummeled all the way down though the intact structure to the ground.

How could he be so obviously wrong?

The reason is that he needs the mass to accumulate on the way down in order to continue the collapse. Once you admit the obvious, it becomes clear that the mass is not accumulating, it is disintegrating. By the time the "collapse" is half-over, the top block is obliterated.

This is true of both towers. Greening's notion that the top block remained intact until it hit the bottom is utterly and completely divorced from reality.
 

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