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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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mortimer said:
Another lie, Chris? This website was built to document the steel core columns with raw evidence, and it is substantiated and consistent with links to universities, Ph.D's and other credible, disinterested sources.
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That web site says "no concrete core" because it has nothing to say "steel core columns" except obvious fraudulent info. So it insted works with simple confusion trying to use misintrpretations and selectivity to cut out the solid evidence of the concrete core.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Relative to the north tower, and relative to the fires which had burned initially in WTC2, the fires were in danger of going out. That's one possible explanation of why they had to do WTC2 first.
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Aw, poor BS1234, reduced to competing with Chris for the "looniest lunatic of the forum" award. I can see why, since the two of you are equally crazy but you have the added point that your music sucks. Maybe Chris can give you some pointers in that regard and level the playing field again. Who knows? He may have received musical training subconsciously centuries ago, and still might give you a run for your money.

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TruthSeeker1234 said:
Relative to the north tower, and relative to the fires which had burned initially in WTC2, the fires were in danger of going out. That's one possible explanation of why they had to do WTC2 first.
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TruthSeeker1234 said:
BTW, the molten metal in your picture looks pretty close to white hot in the center.
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A classic combination! You really pack a 1-2 punch, TS!

Is it necessary to be a howling ignoramus in every post, TruthSeeker1234?
 
Christophera said:
You wish.

You are wrong. The drywall is attached to a stairway of elevator shaft NOT THE CORE STRUCTURE.
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And what do you think the stairway and elevator shaft is attached to? You really suck at debating. Your attempts at changing reality is truly astounding.



Or, there is the possibility it is not the same piece of the core. There are some major differences in the appearance. It does not make sense that things would be added, only taken away. See if you can tell what I'm getting at.

Do you have the original image link?
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It is the same section. The differences are that debris have been removed.
Look closer and compare the two photos. It is the same core just at two different periods of time.
Here's one source of the photos I used. (warning: very large files)
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/
You'll have to hunt out the WTC photos
Here's the link to the specific photo:
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5435.jpg


Sure, and most, if not all of it doesn't qualify. What is at my site is backed by consistent images showing what can only be concrete and steel core columns are never seen where they must.
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Nope. The photo you use are low resolution and inconclusive. Your imagination and desire have filled in what you want to see.


Raw evidence of photographs can be and are used to make absolute determinations of fakery all the time. Statements need to be carefully linked to evidence that is consistent with the statement. My site does this with the concrete core and this cannot be done with steel core columns.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html
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Sorry, wrong as usual Chris.
 

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Gravy said:
A classic combination! You really pack a 1-2 punch, TS!

Is it necessary to be a howling ignoramus in every post, TruthSeeker1234?
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Really scary having all of this truth thrown on us, when will it start.

Planes and fire and gravity are not enough, we need exposives!

We want them so that we do not need to be afraid.

They said while timoring in the bush.
 
bonavada said:
hey chris......you've been at this a very long time now, but there are some basic general questions i think need answering by you.

you believe the WTC was destroyed not by islamic extremists but by americans? i'll take that as read.
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Anybody who would do that is not American. They may have no allegiance to any nation. It was not the government, it was infiltrators of the government. The true US government is disabled from doing anything like that. We must treat our government as an ideal and always work to perfect it.

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so please, why would these people:-

wait so long after the planes crashed before setting off the C4? why not explode the charges immediately following the impacts? this would have caused many more casualties = even greater outrage = more excuses for overseas adventurism.

allow the south tower to collapse first? why not blow the north tower as this was hit first?

and:-
why bother steering a jet plane into each prior to CD anyway? if the buildings were so effectively rigged for CD as you insist, why the overkill? why not the government/whoever "simply" concoct evidence that terrorists planted bombs in the buildings prior to 9/11?


BV
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First thing to realize. It was a ruse. An elaborate ploy following Herman Goerings formula for incredible credulity.​

This link has a full logical explanation for all the questions above.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1207667
 
DHR said:
Really scary having all of this truth thrown on us, when will it start.

Planes and fire and gravity are not enough, we need exposives!

We want them so that we do not need to be afraid.

They said while timoring in the bush.
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Reasonably, the event seen below has nothing to do with a strcutural collapse from plane impacts and fires. You need explosives to explain clouds of debris expanding to the degree at that speed.
 
DHR said:
Really scary having all of this truth thrown on us, when will it start.

Planes and fire and gravity are not enough, we need exposives!

We want them so that we do not need to be afraid.

They said while timoring in the bush.
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Reasonably, the event seen below has nothing to do with a structural collapse from plane impacts and fires. You need explosives to explain clouds of debris expanding to those degrees at that speed.

Still or video it doesn't matter. the refined, uniform composition of the debris cloud is conclusive.



http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3954&stc=1&d=1162709252
 

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Gravy said:
Thank you for that correction. I apologize for making it necessary. I should have said "Carefully packed with demolitions explosives." I meant to cast no aspersions on the good people who do the dangerous and exacting work of planting explosives in new buildings.
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And thank you for the midnight hot toddy shooting through my nostrils. Invigorating!
 
Chris, why didn't anyone else in the world hear about this 1990 PBS documentary that showed, in detail, how explosives were planted in the towers? I was a PBS member then, and that was definitely NOT n my Program Guide!

Why are you the only one to ever hear of this? Does that give you pause?

Why is there not a single mention of it on the internet, except on your sites? Why does PBS, the Library of Congress, etc. have no knowledge of the documentary?

Why is there not a single news report, anywhere, about one of the biggest stories in US history?

And Chris, if you worked on or in those buildings, don't you think you'd be a wee bit upset that you were sitting on thousands of pounds of high explosives?

Don't you think that after the 1993 bombing people would have said, "Were those the built-in explosives that were featured in that TV show, or were they new explosives?"


Please answer! Inquiring minds want to know!
 
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Christophera said:
But you still have not explained why you think my explanation for "the wrong tower fell first" is not logical.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1207667

What has been, ......... about 130 pages since you said it was not logical and then never explained why.
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Your failure to realize the validity of an explanation doesn't mean that it never existed. It all hinges on your definition of logic, which must be a relative one.

(I do realize given the nature of Christophera that such a comment is pointless; I really just wanted do get my foot in the door for what must become a legendary thread)
 
DHR said:
Chris is has been tried and many have died.
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But in the end we will beat him. I mean he´s about 57 years
old and most of us are much younger... :D

Alfred said:
Ya' might check to see if Ollie is up to giving some spam lessons.
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Muhahawawaw... Your thread was my guide to learn what spam means.... :D
 
Christophera said:
But you still have not explained why you think my explanation for "the wrong tower fell first" is not logical.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1207667

What has been, ......... about 130 pages since you said it was not logical and then never explained why.
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And you still have not explained why the collapse of the towers started at the point of impact of the planes, even though the planes hit the wrong towers.

You also failed to give us proof of explosives placed in the towers, proof like some people admitting planting it there.
 
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