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Didn't Paul Isaac Jr say basically the same thing? He was a firefighter too wasn't he?
 
Usual Suspect said:
Robert David Steele has alot to say. Try to debunk the man. Here's three links. Do your research and you'll come up with more.

Steele 1

Steele 2

Steele 3

Put on your Critical Thinker hats and have fun. It's Saturday night time to go out and throw back a few. Maybe I'll grace you later tonight with a beer buzz but I doubt it.
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If he was an open source structural engineer or demolition guy I might be impressed with his take on WTC 7. As it is, he's just another amateur with an opinion and no expertise to back it up.
 
Dazed said:
Didn't Paul Isaac Jr say basically the same thing? He was a firefighter too wasn't he?
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In these forums, posting as "Sentinel," he explicitly states that he has no evidence of explosives in the towers and that he has been misquoted.
 
Gravy,

You asked me a question in a thread about my beliefs.

Why is it such a passion of yours to try and ensure nobody believes 9/11 was a conspiracy?

When did it become that way?

Russell
 
Wow, this thread appeared from nowhere!

I have only read the last 4 pages, so I'm not fully clued up yet, but US keeps bitching about some guy called Steele so I decided to see what I could find regarding Steele and 9/11 and I found this:

Reviewer, a former spy and founder of the Marine Corps Intelligence Command, is convinced by Progressive Press offering that 9/11 was a "US-based conspiracy"
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So this guy read a CT book and then decided it was a conspiracy? So his opinion is not based on any kind of inside knowledge (like, say, Lauro Chavez). Have I got that right?

In other words - he is just another CT nut?
 
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Russell Pickering said:
Gravy,

You asked me a question in a thread about my beliefs.

Why is it such a passion of yours to try and ensure nobody believes 9/11 was a conspiracy?
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It's not. My interest is in countering the falsehoods about 9/11 that are spread in the name of "truth," and in promoting critical thinking. If the evidence leads elsewhere, that's where I'll go.
 
jessicarabbit said:
Loose Change. I would ask you to watch it.
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I have. In LC2E I found 426 errors, including 81 errors of fact. They didn't get a single material claim right. You can read my comments on it in Loose Change Viewer Guide and Loose Change Creators Speak.

Steele must appear in the second half of LC Recut. I'm only halfway through the revision of my LC Guide. It's very long. I was brand-new to these issues when I wrote the first version. My WTC 7 paper is a spinoff of the current revision. I felt that it was too long to keep in the LC Guide.
 
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Gravy said:
It's not. My interest is in countering the falsehoods about 9/11 that are spread in the name of "truth," and in promoting critical thinking. If the evidence leads elsewhere, that's where I'll go.
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If a conspiracy were ever proved you would have few thousand apologies to make
 
Russell Pickering said:
Gravy,

You asked me a question in a thread about my beliefs.

Why is it such a passion of yours to try and ensure nobody believes 9/11 was a conspiracy?

When did it become that way?

Russell
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I would hazard a guess that the truth is important.

Not fantasies and lies and people profiting from the ignorance and gullibility of others.
 
Gravy said:
I have. You can read my comments on it in Loose Change Viewer Guide and Loose Change Creators Speak.

Steele must appear in the second half of LC Recut. I'm only halfway through the revision of my LC Guide. It's very long. I was brand-new to these issues when I wrote the first version. My WTC 7 paper is a spinoff of the current revision. I felt that it was too long to keep in the LC Guide.
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I saw the loose change creators speak thing. Isn't there a bit of attacking the person not the argument in there?

The point I was making is why debunk only loose change and not other things produced about 9/11
 
Gravy said:
I have. In LC2E I found 426 errors, including 81 errors of fact. They didn't get a single material claim right. You can read my comments on in Loose Change Viewer Guide and Loose Change Creators Speak.

Steele must appear in the second half of LC Recut. I'm only halfway through the revision of my LC Guide. It's very long. I was brand-new to these issues when I wrote the first version. My WTC 7 paper is a spinoff of the current revision. I felt that it was too long to keep in the LC Guide.
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Don't tell me you having something in public that is out of date? *gasp*
 
Gravy said:
If the evidence leads elsewhere, that's where I'll go.
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If Larry Silverstein said Pull it, you must acquit.

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uk_dave said:
I would hazard a guess that the truth is important.

Not fantasies and lies and people profiting from the ignorance and gullibility of others.
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Who's profiting? If truthers are reall such a minority surely the money would be in writing the debunking books.
 
uk_dave said:
I would hazard a guess that the truth is important.

Not fantasies and lies and people profiting from the ignorance and gullibility of others.
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UK,

Do you believe the government has been 100% truthful, transparent, and forthcoming about 9/11?

Russell
 
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