Who Disrespects NYPD & NYFD

Usual Suspect said:
Do some work with your own lazy ass and email Fox.

Hmmmm where did Gravy go?? That video Jessica put up take him off guard so he had to disappear to create his spin?? I think so.:rolleyes:

Funny how right after she posted it, "My internet went all screwy and I can't view the video." Yeeeeeah OOOOOOOOKay :rolleyes:
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No.... the site is screwy and it took my server about four minutes to upload and buffer the video. Gravy may have thought it was his ISP or computer. I know I did.

Do you really think you've frightened someone off? How infantile can you get? I notice Russell's not responding. Oooh, did Pardalis' avatar scare him off?
 
jessicarabbit said:
Originally Posted by jessicarabbit
In 1999 the Luther King family took the government to court. A jury found that the government had conspired to kill Martin Luther King and had framed James Earl Ray as a patsy.

I am making the point that this disproves assertions that the government don't conspire to kill american citizens.


Is this not a fair point gravy?
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Even if (IF!) MLK was killed by the government, you do realize that was a wholly different government back then, don't you. The same with Northwoods. Because A performed B is not proof C performed D.

Does that make sense?
 
Foolmewunz said:
I'll see you this and raise you one. I DID SAY IT. I watched the whole thing live from Jersey City (20th floor picture window at 10 Exchange Place), and after we were forced to evacuate our buildings, we watched from the Hudson River shoreline. When the buildings went down, individually, there was much conversation and the general consensus was that it was from a weakening of the structure due to the damages from the crash and fire.
Many people said it on my side of the river, and I'm certain that anyone on the Manhattan side would have been involved in similar conversations, and many there would've said the same thing.

Why would it be that "the guy in the video" this time is a liar or actor? This thread started out with abject faith with another "the guy in the video".
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Yes, what else would anyone say?

Now looking at the stored energy of a building and understanding some about CD. What you thought on 9/11 looks like you nailed it!

Who would think CT guys would jump on 9/11 truth.
 
Gravy said:
Ah, I can see you're not from the US. He's never referred to as "Luther King." You're talking about the guy who went on TV with wild claims about his involvement with the Mafia and the US gov't in the King murder. Reminds me of quite a few JFK assassination confessors.

Okay, looked it up. The guy's name was Jowers. It was a civil suit, not criminal. The suit was for "Wrongful death" The jury found Jowers' confession credible and found him guilty. The King family was awarded $100 (they weren't seeking money). Although it was a conspiracy trial, no other person was held accountable or punished in any way.

A Justice Department Civil Rights investigation concluded that there was no basis to Jowers' claim.

So, no, I don't think this is a good example to show that the US government is capable of a successful massive conspiracy and coverup in the deaths of thousands of its citizens and the destruction of billions in property.

ETA: ah, Foolmewunz was on it.
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Point taken. My source was Dr Pepper (yes that really is his name) who acted for the family. He said the jury conceded earl ray was under control of unnamed conspiraters of US intelligence which cannot be tried in a criminal court.

I withdraw my point.

I still urge you to see the fox video though.
 
Mince said:
Even if (IF!) MLK was killed by the government, you do realize that was a wholly different government back then, don't you. The same with Northwoods. Because A performed B is not proof C performed D.

Does that make sense?
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It makes sense but I would disagree that the government is different.
 
Foolmewunz said:
Do you really think you've frightened someone off? How infantile can you get? I notice Russell's not responding. Oooh, did Pardalis' avatar scare him off?
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Why is Usual Suspect logged off right now? Did we scare him away? Or maybe he doesn't spend all 24 hours of every day at his keyboard. Maybe he eats and drinks and sleeps. Sheeeeeeah, ruhiiiggghhhhtttt.
 
I'm here just watching the "logic" of defending the USG by saying they value life too much to do 9/11.
 
A recap of Usual suspect's trail of thought:

Usual Suspect said:
You want a gov't plan that involved the deaths of 1,000 of Americans?? The EPA/Gov't lie about the air quality in lower Manhattan. That is and will cause the deaths of 100's if not 1,000's.
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Pardalis said:
Why would the government connive into killing its own citicenz by air polluting? Months and years after the events?

What possible benefit would come from this?
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Usual Suspect said:
I'm not saying they "wanted" to kill people this way but this will kill people. This shows total disreguard for American lives by the gov't so how exactly are they above killing 1,000???
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Pardalis said:
Your claim was that the government was capable of deliberately conniving the murder of a 1000 of its own people. Are you backing down from that claim now?
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Usual Suspect said:
No I'm not cause lying about the air quality will result in American deaths. To me that's murder.
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Pardalis said:
And how does that fit in the "the government was complicit in the 9/11 attacks" theory?
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Usual Suspect said:
You asked if the gov't would be capable of the deaths of 1,000. I showed you an answer.
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Pardalis said:
Usual Suspect, do you think your government connived a plot to kill thousands of its own people by air polluting at ground zero?
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Usual Suspect said:
Yes. By telling them the air quality was safe when it wasn't, was basicly sending 1,000s of people who lived and worked in NYC to their deaths. How about you show up at one of the meetings and tell these people how much their gov't cares about them. Also remind them how much the gov't cares and that's why they're blocking medical aid. These people are also paying the health expenses out of their own pocket. Do you have half the ball to do that?? You know just go down and show some of that respect.
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Pardalis said:
Then what would be the government's pay off for killing a thousand of workers, years after 9/11?
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Can't wait for the follow up. :boggled:
 
jessicarabbit said:
Point taken. My source was Dr Pepper (yes that really is his name) who acted for the family. He said the jury conceded earl ray was under control of unnamed conspiraters of US intelligence which cannot be tried in a criminal court.

I withdraw my point.

I still urge you to see the fox video though.
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I'll watch it when it will load.

Agreed that you were wrong about your FEMA claim?

Have any evidence for your 9/11=most drills in history claim?

That's it for me for a while.
 
Russell Pickering said:
I'm here just watching the "logic" of defending the USG by saying they value life too much to do 9/11.
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That's a little like, "So when did you stop beating your wife?", isn't it?

No one's made that statement or inferred that statement. What a lot of questions were directed towards was JessicaR's assertion that any government (which had been proven guilty) that would conspire to kill someone would not hesitate at taking out 3000 people on 9/11.
 
jessicarabbit said:
Yes. I saw it streamed on the Fox coverage on the 5th anniversary. You couldn'y fake that in case fox saw it and sued. Email it to fox and resolve the issue.
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How are you sure that the voice is the man's voice, since the video is out of sync?
 
Gravy said:
I'll watch it when it will load.

Agreed that you were wrong about your FEMA claim?

Have any evidence for your 9/11=most drills in history claim?

That's it for me for a while.
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Im not syre about the FEMA claim. The source I saw said the spokesman was speaking on 12th sept.

It was a lecture in which all the drills were laid out.
 
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