Who Disrespects NYPD & NYFD

[Pardalis]

No I do take your point and I would prefer if this Craig wasn't connected to LTW.

Well, he is being interviewed by them and repeating their words. Look at the video in the OP.

 

[gumboot]

There was a criminal investigation?? WOW!! You think something like that would have made news. You got some good inside source huh??

There were countless investigations, of every kind imaginable. Indeed, evidence collected by those investigations has already been used to convict people of crimes relating to 9/11.

-Gumboot

 

[Usual Suspect]

Quiz for Usual Suspect:

How many FBI Evidence Response Teams worked at Ground Zero and Fresh Kills?

Quiz for Gravy

Does that mean they were conducting a criminal investigation or just securing the area??

Next Quiz for Gravy

The 9/11 Commission didn't look to hold anyone, even OBL or the terrorist accountable and demmed the 9/11 money trail "not important" so we've had a real criminal investigation where and when??

Third Gravy quiz

You totally ignored the first post. You say the Truth movement disrespects NYPD/FD. The video says "You're Wrong".

 

[Pardalis]

You totally ignored the first post. You say the Truth movement disrespects NYPD/FD. The video says "You're Wrong".

They are WRONG. They are using him.

 

[Usual Suspect]

There were countless investigations, of every kind imaginable. Indeed, evidence collected by those investigations has already been used to convict people of crimes relating to 9/11.

-Gumboot

And you can source this or just talking out of your ass?? Investigation of the steel from the WTC has been used to convict who??

 

[Pardalis]

whom

 

[Gravy]

While talking about the collapse please don't forget Craig says the Truth Movement is not disrespectful to the NYPD/FD and the families. Infact I believe he says the official lie is what's disrespectful.

Russ why do you waste your time here?? You went to DC, you are doing real research yet your allowing yourself to be questioned by people who haven't done one ounce of research.

Second time: Usual, why did you ask me this the other day:

If ok with you I wouldn't mind PMing you questions from time to time. Like I said I'm open to any and all answers.

I responded that of course it was okay. What, specifically, made you change your mind?

Likewise, you said:

I like to think more like this..... got questions, look for answers. I've watched Loose Change and believe very, very little about it.

But today you're a raging CT who spouts the same "official lie" rhetoric as Loose Change. What changed?

 

[Usual Suspect]

They are WRONG. They are using him.

OH of course they are. Cause that view fits for you. That's showing respect to a 9/11 hero who is suffering do to EPA and US gov't lies. You should be mighty proud of yourself.

 

[Pardalis]

What's up with this new CT tactic?

They claim they don't believe Loose Change, then after a while they repeat almost verbatim everything that movies says?

Didn't Russell also say he didn't like Loose Change?

 

[Pardalis]

OH of course they are. Cause that view fits for you. That's showing respect to a 9/11 hero who is suffering do to EPA and US gov't lies. You should be mighty proud of yourself.

Your point?

 

[Gravy]

I believe it was 55

Thanks for answering, Jessica. It was 55 at Fresh Kills alone. If Usual had bothered to do any homework, he'd know that they were there throughout the debris sorting process, searching for evidence, which is their job, not "securing the area," which is not their job.

 

[Gravy]

The government in general is just a lumbering, clumsy conglomeration. It made a few innocent mistakes in regards to 9/11. A little cover up is justified just so they don't look bad. All of the reports are to be trusted 100% even though the president himself refused to testify under oath and tried to prevent a 9/11 Commission. The reports and stuff are just delayed because some of this is just not important. Physics is irrelevant and words can mean anything.

Name a single person here who has demonstrated these beliefs.

There is NO possibility of a small subversive element within the harmless, friendly giant. Don't suggest it.

Name a single person here who has demonstrated that belief.

They have evidence and we don't. We're just unpatriotic kooks.

Name a single person here who has demonstrated that belief.

Some people here defend the government at all costs and will instead attack you even though you have done nothing wrong and are simply trying to find answers the friendly giant refuses to provide.

Name a single person here who has demonstrated that behavior.

I await your answers.

Oh, and drop the persecution complex, Russell. It's unbecoming.

 

[Moving On]

You don't understand my point. This particular one, on which you rest your case, is being manipulated by LTW.

You accusing them of consciously and maliciously manipulating an ill person?

Do you have evidence that was the intent inside their heart or minds?

Can you prove it and document premeditation or anything? A memo? A recording? An eyewitness? Anything?

If you are a mind reader I know where you can get $1 million.

 

[Moving On]

What's up with this new CT tactic?

They claim they don't believe Loose Change, then after a while they repeat almost verbatim everything that movies says?

Didn't Russell also say he didn't like Loose Change?

Pardalis,

I was flown to DC as part of creating the Pentagon section for the final cut. I have offered support and research as well as making contacts for interviews for the film. I am an admin at LC forum.

Dylan is a very good and well trusted friend.

Russell

 

[Pardalis]

Fair enough Russell, can you do the same for your government?

 

[jessicarabbit]

Thanks for answering, Jessica. It was 55 at Fresh Kills alone. If Usual had bothered to do any homework, he'd know that they were there throughout the debris sorting process, searching for evidence, which is their job, not "securing the area," which is not their job.

I agree but what bothers me is that the debris wasn't ever inspected with explosives in mind. Every time you challenge a CT to come up with physical evidence of explosives you are asking the impossible because we don't have the steel to look at. Frustrating

 

[Gravy]

You totally ignored the first post. You say the Truth movement disrespects NYPD/FD. The video says "You're Wrong".

I have made no statement regarding the "truth" movement and the NYPD.

If you'll take the time to read my WTC 7 paper, which is linked in my signature, you'll see several examples of leaders of 9/11 deniers directly disparaging the FDNY.

You accused me of doing no research. Will you read that paper?

 

[jessicarabbit]

Pardalis,

I was flown to DC as part of creating the Pentagon section for the final cut. I have offered support and research as well as making contacts for interviews for the film. I am an admin at LC forum.

Dylan is a very good and well trusted friend.

Russell

I don't think Dylan has bad intent, I think hes a boy who has got in way too deep and can't get out.

 

[Pardalis]

Russell, all I know from Craig is that anger is not the best way to remain objective. He is repeating exactly what the Truth movement is saying. Word by word.

 

[Moving On]

Name a single person here who has demonstrated these beliefs.

Name a single person here who has demonstrated that belief.

Name a single person here who has demonstrated that belief.

Name a single person here who has demonstrated that behavior.

I await your answers.

Oh, and drop the persecution complex, Russell. It's unbecoming.

"Here are the observations I have made so far" is how I started that post.

Observations are personal and don't require evidence.

But you might go back and read my first thread here to see where some of my crazy impulses come from.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66233

Thank you for the great tip!