Who Disrespects NYPD & NYFD

LashL said:
"The guy" is wrong.
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Dr W. Gene Corley, head of the building performance assessment team, in his testimony to the House of Representatives:

"There has been some concern expressed by others that the work of the team has been hampered because debris was removed from the site and has subsequently been processed for recycling. This is not the case. The team has had full access to the scrap yards and to the site and has been able to obtain numerous samples. At this point there is no indication that having access to each piece of steel from the World Trade Center would make a significant difference to understanding the performance of the structures."

I believe he was speaking about the towers. I'm sure the investigators into WTC 7's collapse would have wanted more steel from that building to be available. Again: context, people! Building 7 was not the main concern, and had you been in New York at the time, you would know that virtually everyone wanted the site cleaned up ASAP, especially where human remains were less likely to be found.

 
Gravy said:
It's important to remember that Bill Manning's anger had nothing to do with CT claims that the steel was removed to hide an "inside job" CD. Manning has never believed or supported 9/11 conspiracy theorists or their claims.

His quote from Fire Engineering is, as usual, taken out of context. Manning was justifiably angry that more steel was not preserved, because he wanted fire safety engineers like himself to be able to study it in order to better answer these questions:

"Can the fire service really handle high rise fires adequately? What part did lightweight steel trusses, some reported to have been in excess of 50 feet long, play in the collapse? How effective was the modern sprayed-on steel "fireproofing" employed at the WTC? How relevant to today's fires are the criteria established for the ASTM E-119 fire resistance test developed in the 1920's? When should the defend-in-place strategy for the WTC be used and not used for large high-rise fires? What can be done to make communication by radio possible in high-rise buildings?" (Fire Engineer, February, 2002)

Please keep these quotes in context, CTs.
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I know that, he was the one on Penn and Teller calling the theories ********. Why did he write the article if the steel wasn't being shipped off?
 
While talking about the collapse please don't forget Craig says the Truth Movement is not disrespectful to the NYPD/FD and the families. Infact I believe he says the official lie is what's disrespectful.

Russ why do you waste your time here?? You went to DC, you are doing real research yet your allowing yourself to be questioned by people who haven't done one ounce of research.
 
Gravy said:
Dr W. Gene Corley, head of the building performance assessment team, in his testimony to the House of Representatives:

"There has been some concern expressed by others that the work of the team has been hampered because debris was removed from the site and has subsequently been processed for recycling. This is not the case. The team has had full access to the scrap yards and to the site and has been able to obtain numerous samples. At this point there is no indication that having access to each piece of steel from the World Trade Center would make a significant difference to understanding the performance of the structures."

I believe he was speaking about the towers. I'm sure the investigators into WTC 7's collapse would have wanted more steel from that building to be available. Again: context, people! Building 7 was not the main concern, and had you been in New York at the time, you would know that virtually everyone wanted the site cleaned up ASAP, especially where human remains were less likely to be found.

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I understand what you are saying, that they didn't need all the steel to understand a collapse but how can any CT find evidence of explosives if they don't have the steel to look at?
 
Usual Suspect said:
Russ why do you waste your time here?? You went to DC, you are doing real research yet your allowing yourself to be questioned by people who haven't done one ounce of research.
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Actually, if I'm not mistaken, his research lead him to believe that flight 77 did hit the Pentagon, right Russell?

BTW, what did you do exactly there? *no sarcasm
 
Gravy said:
It's important to remember that Bill Manning's anger had nothing to do with CT claims that the steel was removed to hide an "inside job" CD. Manning has never believed or supported 9/11 conspiracy theorists or their claims.

His quote from Fire Engineering is, as usual, taken out of context. Manning was justifiably angry that more steel was not preserved, because he wanted fire safety engineers like himself to be able to study it in order to better answer these questions:

"Can the fire service really handle high rise fires adequately? What part did lightweight steel trusses, some reported to have been in excess of 50 feet long, play in the collapse? How effective was the modern sprayed-on steel "fireproofing" employed at the WTC? How relevant to today's fires are the criteria established for the ASTM E-119 fire resistance test developed in the 1920's? When should the defend-in-place strategy for the WTC be used and not used for large high-rise fires? What can be done to make communication by radio possible in high-rise buildings?" (Fire Engineer, February, 2002)

Please keep these quotes in context, CTs.
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They reconstructed Flight 800 out at Calverton Airforce base on Long Island but scraped most of the WTC from the biggest crime scene ever before any investigation was done into "the worse day in American history". That makes sense.
 
Usual Suspect said:
They reconstructed Flight 800 out at Calverton Airforce base on Long Island but scraped most of the WTC from the biggest crime scene ever before any investigation was done into "the worse day in American history". That makes sense.
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That craig makes the point that the FBI barged into Ground Zero and made a big deal about it being the biggest crime scene in history but then treated it as anything other than a crimes scene.
 
Russell Pickering said:
I have been reading your site and you have a lot of great points there.

Thank you.
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Its not really my site. I do a lot of the research and help out. But the site owner does most of the writing. If I had my way I'd change a few things and lessen the tone.
 
Usual Suspect said:
While talking about the collapse please don't forget Craig says the Truth Movement is not disrespectful to the NYPD/FD and the families. Infact I believe he says the official lie is what's disrespectful.

Russ why do you waste your time here?? You went to DC, you are doing real research yet your allowing yourself to be questioned by people who haven't done one ounce of research.
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Usual Suspect,

I subject myself to this for learning.

The CTers were actually a little meaner.

This is just how I learn. I am planning a major revision of my site. I want to get beat up over ideas so my beliefs are informed.

I am going to talk a little more about WTC on a couple of pages so this has been good for myth busting since I have relied on second hand information for the most part.

Dispelled some things and confirmed some things.

It is worth it!

Thank you for the compliment.

Russell
 
Usual Suspect said:
They reconstructed Flight 800 out at Calverton Airforce base on Long Island but scraped most of the WTC from the biggest crime scene ever before any investigation was done into "the worse day in American history". That makes sense.
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Are you obsessed with lying. Did you ignore all of the points above where it was made clear the debris from the WTC was NOT scrapped before an investigation could be undertaken?

-Gumboot
 
jessicarabbit said:
That craig makes the point that the FBI barged into Ground Zero and made a big deal about it being the biggest crime scene in history but then treated it as anything other than a crimes scene.
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But is it Craig's point, or the point of the guys of "Louder than Words"?
 
Kent1 said:
Its not really my site. I do a lot of the research and help out. But the site owner does most of the writing. If I had my way I'd change a few things and lessen the tone.
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I am anxious for the Doubletree video to come out. I want to see it bad.
 
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