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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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uruk said:
Hey moron, That's a Canadian Highschool website!http://www.worsleyschool.net/ Are you saying that a Canadian highschool is a more reputable site then all those architectural and historical sites?
(No offence to any Canadians here, particularly anyone who went to Worsley Hi. GO BIG RED ANIMAL THING!!)
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Yes, and the grade schoolers are more credible as well. The fact is that concrete can be fractured to fall instantly with a small amount of high explosives and steel cannot.
 
missyvanwinkle said:
I know someone has already pointed out that if a zillion people agreed with you, that wouldn't be accepted as evidence per se, but I am curious.

You know how a bunch of people around here seem to be like-minded?

Well, I was wondering if there is a group supporting the concrete core theory. I mean, I've seen your website, but I haven't explored the web for others. Is there a network out there of concrete core people? This is the only forum I've gone to and got hooked on this thread (like rubber-necking at a wreck I guess.)

Missy
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Yes, a very large group agree with me and have for some time. You will probably find a a number of sites that agree, now. Up until about the end of 2005 mine was the only site.

One simple fact remains so true that the steel core proposition has been abandoned slowly, but that is increasing at a healthy rate.

Concrete can be fractured to fall instantly by a relatively small amount of explosives but steel cannot. Meaning, basically, that what we saw is IMPOSSIBLE with steel core columns, literally. it cannot have haapened.

Which by default make the concrete core the only possible core because this image exists.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3808&stc=1&d=1162004198
 

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Christophera said:
Yes, and the grade schoolers are more credible as well. The fact is that concrete can be fractured to fall instantly with a small amount of high explosives and steel cannot.
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Chris. Dude. Give it up. It's not enough to know in your heart you are right. It IS enough to know that you are wong even IF you 'know' in your heart you are right.

And You ARE wong. Tragically, terribly, sadly wrong. Deal with it.

Oh, wait, you might have problems admitting you are wrong.

Chris. Be a man.
 
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Christophera said:
Yes, a very large group agree with me and have for some time. You will probably find a a number of sites that agree, now. Up until about the end of 2005 mine was the only site.

One simple fact remains so true that the steel core proposition has been abandoned slowly, but that is increasing at a healthy rate.

Concrete can be fractured to fall instantly by a relatively small amount of explosives but steel cannot. Meaning, basically, that what we saw is IMPOSSIBLE with steel core columns, literally. it cannot have haapened.

Which by default make the concrete core the only possible core because this image exists.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3808&stc=1&d=1162004198
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That image, nor your argument, proves anything.
 
Dear Christopher Alfred B.

I protested your thread in here over at the community-forum and i took the time to get a better picture about you.

I´ve read about some forums where you had posted, i read about Truthasaur, about hypnosis, failure to child support, prison, missing court files, the concrete core, mind control, christianity, trials and so on.

There are some importand issues in your heart and somehow everything seems to interrelate with each other.

Maybe i´m to blind to see it - why are you wasting time in a place that does not have the answers you are searching for, Christopher?

Sincerely,
Oliver
 
Christophera said:
Yes, and the grade schoolers are more credible as well. The fact is that concrete can be fractured to fall instantly with a small amount of high explosives and steel cannot.
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And there you go folks. The source of his "raw" evidence. Grade schoolers.
Maybe they can supply him with raw evidence for the existance of the toothfairy and the easter bunny.
 
Oliver said:
Dear Christopher Alfred B.

I protested your thread in here over at the community-forum and i took the time to get a better picture about you.

I´ve read about some forums where you had posted, i read about Truthasaur, about hypnosis, failure to child support, prison, missing court files, the concrete core, mind control, christianity, trials and so on.

There are some importand issues in your heart and somehow everything seems to interrelate with each other.

Maybe i´m to blind to see it - why are you wasting time in a place that does not have the answers you are searching for, Christopher?

Sincerely,
Oliver
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I am not looking for answers. I am looking to share functional knowledge, I know what I'm doing and I know why I'm doing it.

There is nothing more boring that communicating with a bunch of people that agree with one, nor is there anything more dysfunctional if one seeks to compel others to work for a specific change. There are a few people here that care deeply about the US Constitution, rights and freedoms as well as their children and what I'm doing supports them, whether they know it or not.

I've learned that our society is a fraud and simply seek to show exactly how and what damages the deception is causing.
 
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Christophera said:
I am not looking for answers. I am looking to share functional knowledge, I know what I'm doing an I know why I'm doing it.

There is nothing more boring that communicating with a bunch of people that agree with one, nor is there anything more dysfunctional if one seeks to compel others to work for a specific change. There are a few people here that care deeply about the US Constitution, rights and freedoms as well as their children and what I'm doing supports them, whether they know it or not.

I've learned that our society is a fraud and simply seek to show exactly how and what damages the deception is causing.
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Dear Christopher Alfred B.


I´m glad to see that your efforts are to move something to make
this world a better place. I also have this dream and i guess, most
people share such interests in their heart.

The inner problems of the united states isn´t really my pair of shoes
because i live somethousand miles away from you but i also would like
to see some more positive things over there.

Maybe you´re right and there are a lot of people who share your interests
about the US-Constitution in here, but talking about the concrete core
annoys the people and they don´t listen to you anymore after a while.

After reading that you lost your license because the child support incident,
i also don´t know the relation to QUOTE: "as well as their children and what
I'm doing supports them".

You say "I know what I'm doing".

Would you be so honest and explain it to the rest of the readers that
don´t understand what your fight for a better america has to do with
a concrete core?


Sincerely,
Oliver
 
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This is an exercise in futility. We had 2 steel core buildings. This was known before 9/11 by many people. It was not a secret. The construction didn't happen at Area 51. They were built in the most highly populated city in the US. The steel core is crystal clear in Gravy's construction pics.

Were these magic cores? Did they convert to concrete when an airplane hit them? Did Copperfield change them to concrete in the 80's when he made the Statue of Liberty disappear?

How did explosives get into the WTC? They weren't there in Feb 2001. I was there. Thousands of evacuees never saw them. Firefighters, police and other resuce workers didn't see them. Many firefighters quit after 9/11. None admit to seeing any and are not afraid of saying so if there were.
 
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You don't happen to have any of those other sites that agree with you handy do you?

I mean, I fully expected you to say there were other who agreed, but I was wondering if you could lead me in their direction, just so I can kinda' poke around.
 
Oliver said:
Dear Christopher Alfred B.


I´m glad to see that your efforts are to move something to make
this world a better place. I also have this dream and i guess, most
people share such interests in their heart.

The inner problems of the united states isn´t really my pair of shoes
because i live somethousand miles away from you but i also would like
to see some more positive things over there.

Maybe you´re right and there are a lot of people who share your interests
about the US-Constitution in here, but talking about the concrete core
annoys the people and they don´t listen to you anymore after a while.

After reading that you lost your license because the child support incident,
i also don´t know the relation to QUOTE: "as well as their children and what
I'm doing supports them".

You say "I know what I'm doing".

Would you be so honest and explain it to the rest of the readers that
don´t understand what your fight for a better america has to do with
a concrete core?


Sincerely,
Oliver
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What we saw is impossible with steel core columns.

If one tries to prove the impossible they will most often fail. My childrens futures depend on success in this case.

Without the truth of 9-11, America is a historical notion. Gone, over, barely a memory.

If they don't listen, half the time it is because they know it is true and don't need to any listen any longer.
 
firecoins said:
This is an exersice in futility. We had 2 steel core buildings. This was known before 9/11 by many people. It was not a secret. The construction didn't happen at Area 51. They were built in the most highly populated city in the US. The steel core is crystal clear in Gravy's construction pics.

Were these magic cores? Did they convert to concrete when an airplane hit them? Did Copperfield change them to concrete in the 80's when he made the Statue of Liberty disappear?

How did explosives get into the WTC? They weren't there in Feb 2001. I was there. Thousands of evacuees never saw them. Firefighters, police and other resuce workers didn't see them. Many firefighters quit after 9/11. None admit to seeing any and are not afraid of saying so if there were.
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How you expect to get anything done without evidence is a mystery. Maybe you think you text is compelling for some reason. You cannot even provide a link to a site dedicated to proving the steel core columns with raw evidence of images, construction of otherwise.

All of that in the face of many images that actually show concrete or structure that can only be concrete.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

The core area is not even seen in one of gravys images and the other one is far from clear. What is clear is that the vertical steel seen is far smaller than the "MASSIVE BOX COLUMNS" that ring the core.

In order to be of consequence information must provide explanation when there is a mystery.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3810&stc=1&d=1162013246
 

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missyvanwinkle said:
You don't happen to have any of those other sites that agree with you handy do you?

I mean, I fully expected you to say there were other who agreed, but I was wondering if you could lead me in their direction, just so I can kinda' poke around.
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I thought I may have made a bookmark on one but did not. If you search with "concrete core" you should find at least 2, and there's another that has copied all my stuff.
 
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Christophera said:
What we saw is impossible with steel core columns.

If one tries to prove the impossible they will most often fail. My childrens futures depend on success in this case.

Without the truth of 9-11, America is a historical notion. Gone, over, barely a memory.

If they don't listen, half the time it is because they know it is true and don't need to any listen any longer.
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Dear Christopher Alfred B.


As a german citizen i saw the buildings collapse after planes hit
them and after seeing that there were fires within the towers.
I didn´t even know about all the fantastic theories before i saw
Loose Change some months ago.

But let me ask you: If the towers were blown up, why didn´t they
fall starting from the bottom - why did they collapse starting from
the impact zones and why is the C4-concrete core still visible for
some seconds after the collapse?

And:

To what extent is it important for your 2 children that there is a
concrete core and may i ask you do you give them child support
today?


Sincerely,
Oliver
 
Oliver said:
Dear Christopher Alfred B.


As a german citizen i saw the buildings collapse after planes hit
them and after seeing that there were fires within the towers.
I didn´t even know about all the fantastic theories before i saw
Loose Change some months ago.

But let me ask you: If the towers were blown up, why didn´t they
fall starting from the bottom - why did they collapse starting from
the impact zones and why is the C4-concrete core still visible for
some seconds after the collapse?

And:

To what extent is it important for your 2 children that there is a
concrete core and may i ask you do you give them child support
today?


Sincerely,
Oliver
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First, I had a feeling you were being deceptive and working towards evoking emotional reasoning within the viewers of this thread from the beginning by pretending to have concrerns for the many vital issues I focus on that have to do with all of our futures.

Understand the exwife has a drug problem and I wouldn't tolerate it. Her family is wealthy but for some reason she was able to get welfare anyway while living at the small family estate. She used the money for extra pharmacueticals. Then of course I owed child support. Some might find it interesting that the laws used to collect that originate with TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 7 > SUBCHAPTER IV > Part D > § 666
. I consider it to be the final infiltration/subversion of the family now that I understand it.

If the County of Santa Barbara had appeared on subpoena in 1998 instead of Failing to appear on subpoena or interfering with the appearance of a witness., the child support would have all been paid by 1999. I would be wealthy and making films, selling books and my music. The world would be a better place.

The kids are both over 18 now, there was only one that was involved anyway.

I think you must be a very sick individual to make that an issue of this after 3000 Americans were murdered and I actually provide a feasible and realistic explanation of the event. I sort of picked up that you were demented anyway with the character of your spam.

Back to 9-11

The pilots knew what elevations to strike the towers at to cause the most damage. Or they were told there were explosives on those approximate floors and they knew each others targets. Of course the demoliton were set to cause failures that mimicked what would happen from plane collisions at those points. See my explanations for the tops of the towers falling the wrong directions and the wrong tower falling first.

The detonation system was different for the lower porton of the core and took a few seconds to catch up so left the lower half standing.
 
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