Steven Jones debates Leslie Robertson

Laith said:
He retired. So your not going to listen to the audio? Ok.
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He was pulled out of his classes after the semester had begun and placed on paid leave. He and the school negotiated a retirement package. He did not leave by choice.

Sure, I'll listen to the audio. When are you going to post it?
 
Laith said:
Have you read Jones paper? He retired after being on paid leave.
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1) yes i have. and nothing in it is even remotely possible and his suggestions of what brougth the towers down are laughable.
2) he retired after being suspended. being suspended doesn't mean you dont get paid.
 
Laith said:
Jones does mention some engineers I haven't heard of who, he claims, have done calculations that collapse should be at least 36 seconds.
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Yes, that would be Judy "Star Wars Space Beam" Wood. AKA, Judy "Keebler Elves" Wood. AKA, Judy "Billiard Balls" Wood.

She's a total kook.
 
Arus808 said:
please provide them now. YOu dont have to ask if we would like to see them. ASSUME we always want proof of what you claim here.

And thes academics are the "scholars" are they; that already blows their credibility.
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Arus, several people did report seeing molten metal there. Not surprising. Some said "steel," although the metal was never tested.
 
georgewashington blog is directly connected to the "Scholars". they refer to it often, link to it. I suspect one of them actually runs it.

TAM
 
Laith said:
He retired. So your not going to listen to the audio? Ok.
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Laith you need to read his paper here is one version online

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/vo...rldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletelyCollapse.pdf

Dr Thermite Jones is also a

Archaeometrist​

in listening to Jones or Robertson - the designer of the structure wins​

Jones knows nothing about stucture and steel etc... ​

Robertson does - by an order of magnitude​

Read Jones paper,, oops you could go deeper into the cult of truth​
 
Judy woods calculations are based on the "Billiard Ball" model, where each ball has to reach the one below before it moves, etc...complete junk science, from what I can see...

Her latest theory, that a "STAR WARS" mini beam was responsible for the WTC collapse, makes here keebler elf "the WTCS are like trees" theory seem...almost scientific.

TAM
 
Laith said:
This link has numerous sourced quotes from reliable experts:

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/12/why-was-there-molten-metal-under.html
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Okay nice to link to a blog, about it, but word of note that you failed to realize
1) much of the quotes were being made by people who just arrived there and making a QUICK visual assessment.
2) much of what they thought were steel were actually just many different types of alloys (including aluminum, which is not an uncommon metal in office buildings to melt faster than most known metals)
3) it was possible for melted steel to be found because of the ongoing fires beneath the rubble that were let to burn without being fought. the debris themselves created a nice oven effect, thereby increaing the temperature and heat.

So, why should Robertson know about this again?
 
T.A.M. said:
georgewashington blog is directly connected to the "Scholars". they refer to it often, link to it. I suspect one of them actually runs it.

TAM
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And? the quotes are all sources to reputable publications. Some say steel. in fact one of them is a Ph.D who went to inspect the site.
 
Laith said:
Could I see your calculations on that? I have searched for some calculations done and even NIST has not done them
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If you want numbers, I don't have them, but I also know that you have no numbers to demonstrate that a cessation of collapse is plausible. Since every bona fide investigator who's looked into the matter finds the non-cessation of the collapse unremarkable, on exactly the grounds I've cited, I will need a little convincing to believe that "it should have stopped" is any kind of counter-argument that should be taken seriously.

Try the documentary "Why the Towers Fell", for example.
 
Gravy said:
Arus, several people did report seeing molten metal there. Not surprising. Some said "steel," although the metal was never tested.
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Yes, I know that many investigators saw molten metal. however, OP is swtiching from molten metal to steel then back again in his postings.

And he just linked to a document of quotes where much of it seems to be quotes from initial assessments, not by those who tested that metal.
 
Laith said:
And? the quotes are all sources to reputable publications. Some say steel. in fact one of them is a Ph.D who went to inspect the site.
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visualling seeing what was there and actually testing what it was are two different things.

did that PHD do a test right on scene, to see if it was steel or just combination of several metals?
 
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