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Video of wtc 7

gravy u r insane

if i presented u with 70 sworn confessions of demolition guys saying they blew building 7 u would refute it

u r a lost cause

You're not going to win the language award anytime soon.

gravy it was demolished and i think u know it

Well, that'll turn 'em around.

gravy how come fema doesnt know why it collapsed but u do?

They don't ?

the truth will prevail and ill be here to see u made a mug of

Let me know how that works out for you.

einsteen what are the motivations of the idiots here?

they must just have blind allegiance to the government

Yeah, especially those north of the border.

thats u on ignore u tit

Hey, that looks like fun. Let me try.

"Thats o about jogging c break"

Okay, not that fun.

nyway the bbc wont accept anything that goes against the official fairytale

A very convenient excuse for beign lazy and not reporting a crime of such heinous proportions.
 
Do you know what the problem is ongoing here, a building has collapsed. If you see that building (a lot of people didn't know about the building) and you know nothing about the raging fires and tremendous damage and the fact that the building came down 7 hours later, the first thing you would say is: "hey that looks like a controlled demolition,

Actually, no. When I first saw it on television, I thought "hey, it must've been really close to the other buildings so it was damaged beyond its structural capabilities."

Some of the first group of people will probably also think it was a CD but they changed their opinion because there is no official explanation for that,

The fact that the investigation is still going on pretty much says it all.

other people of that first group then immediately think it is due to fire and damage and are behind the official story because ... they are behind the official story.

An interesting accusation. I suppose, then, we could accuse you guys of beign against the official story because ... you are against your government to start with.

Then there is a second group of people who saw the 3 towers collapse, two of them disintegrating in strange way and one that looks like a classical CD that starts at the bottom, a piece of art in fact that requires well-trained experienced professionals

Let me complete your sentence: "that need several months of work to rig a 50-storey building for demolition in this way."

Is it unreasonable to be a little bit critical and think this is really really strange?

No. But it's unreasonable NOT to examine the real evidence that's available and then defy all logic by siding with the CTers.

I don't think one has the right to classify you as a nutter. What I don't understand from some of the debunkers, it is all : "look at the firemen bla bla... no they pulled it back because bla bla", why not saying: "I really believe it is due to fire and damage, but I admit it is a little bit strange, I cannot explain it and rely on the government's investigation"

That's because it's not true. "I really know it's because of fire and damage, and I don't find it strange at all because I have the necessary, basic layman's knowledge required for me to understand reality."
 
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The official story is in fact that it is an indirect collapse, due to a piece of debris that came from wtc1 and/or wtc2 and they collapsed due to fire and some damage. Did Silverstein drink some tea with some terrorists in a cave, guys if you hit it there then that piece of debris will hit my damned building also and my ensurance will pay me even more...

That's the stupidest thing you've said so far, Einsteen.
 
Something that has always troubled me. Buildings 4,5 & 6 were hit by more debris, recieved more damage and had fires greater than that of building 7 yet they remained standing. Building 7 with huge damage to one corner and fires falls straight down instead of towards the damage. Both points never added up for me.

You might have noticed that 7 was a 50-storey skyscraper ?
 
I know that it wasn't a controlled demolition.

Oh really, were you there?

How do you KNOW?



pdoherty76 is a child molester. That's a fact, and you're all fools for not knowing it.


Ole' Gravy
Please, bear with us, it's just not that easy for everybody to be as perfect as you. And since so many of you have determined that he is a child, it's impossible for him to be a child molester isn't it?
So I guess your wrong about that unimportant tid bit , right?

Right.


I'm not lying. They say they've never heard of you.

Either you are independently wealthy or the government must pay you well for your work here if you have the time to waste doing a background search on someone you disagree with online. This person's lack of education and poor spelling have nothing to do with the video presented in this thread, look at it punk, watch it again.
Metal structures don't fall down.
If you pay attention to the smoke before it collapses you will see that it is dark and light grey instead of black, do you know what that means boy?
Also if you pay attention to the building before it collapses you will see that there is NO sign of fire on the side most commonly captured by the different video's. Do you know what that means ?

Explain.

Willie Rodriguez is also not an explosives expert. The FDNY are fire and structure experts.

The men and women of the FDNY are not structure experts.
Hmm, wrong again.
No, you're not a journalist. You're just another sad coward behind a keyboard.

You are a USG, NIST, FEMA suck a$$ who is apparently planted behind your little keyboard as well.
Are you comfortable enough in this forum? Enjoy it while it last buddy.

Surely, there is some world-wide recognized news outlet that is willing to stand up against the perpatrators of this heinous crime. Why are you not contacting them with this critical, damning information?

http://www.gatago.com/alt/military/5340739.html

Rumsfeld referred to him as the "New Hitler".

Does anyone know what this young, uneducated person means by convenient? For whom would the collapse of WTC 7 be convenient? Who could have benefitted? Anyone have any idea what this conspiradroid is getting at?

Are you that blind or just unable to perceive the obvious for what it is?
Who do you think is benefitting from this bull shiit "war of terror" that our government has continued to pursue when there is no enemy to defeat.
This nations leaders have inserted our military into a war against "radical Islam", because they keep killing their "radical Islamic" religious brothers.

It's like we are engaged in a war with an enemy, because they are killing our other enemy. But it all goes back to 9/11 and the 19 Muslims who made Houdini look like Alfred E. Newman.
So that makes this war O.K., because you all agree with your toilet paper and have been SOLD on the story that Muslims caused three metal superstructures to collapse, therefore their people must continue to pay.
Dumfuk.

Young man, do you understand that you have shown your purpose in this forum to be an ego boost? You are the only person in here, apart from your CT fan club, that holds your opinion as holding ANY sort of importance.

Young man, you hate yourself. Stop using an event that resulted in the death of 3,000 of your fellow human beings to improve your abysmally low self-esteem.

Yeah, you are all quite comfortable with your opinion and state of mind here.
Too bad you all seem to overlook the fact that over 100,000 Muslim civilian PEOPLE have been murdered as a result of the "event" that you claim to KNOW everything about.
Some of you are going to wake up one morning and swear that a train hit you.

Watch it.
http://www.peacetakescourage.com/wwjd.html

Watch this too.
http://www.peacetakescourage.com/easiertolie.html
 
For the education of various moonbats, here is interview conducted by
FIREHOUSE magazine with Capt Chris Boyle FDNY about his actions on
Sept 11

http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/boyle.html

We went one block north over to Greenwich and then headed south. There was an engine company there, right at the corner. It was right underneath building 7 and it was still burning at the time. They had a hose in operation, but you could tell there was no pressure. It was barely making it across the street. Building 6 was fully involved and it was hitting the sidewalk across the street. I told the guys to wait up.

A little north of Vesey I said, we?ll go down, let?s see what?s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what?s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn?t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn?t look good.

But they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from Fellini, we?re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn?t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn?t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I?m standing next to said, that building doesn?t look straight. So I?m standing there. I?m looking at the building. It didn?t look right, but, well, we?ll go in, we?ll see.

So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody?s going into 7, there?s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we?ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.


A quick time line of what happened to WTC 7

10:28am - North Tower collapse, upper 50 floors break off and fall toward
north, debris striking buildings WTC 6, 7 and Verizon Telephone Bld

Approx 11am - FDNY personnel (as related by Capt Boyle) make effort to
search building and extinguish fires. No water pressure in area as towers
collapse cut most of water mains.

Approx 12:20-12:20pm Orders go out to clear WTC 7 ("Pull it"), all FDNY
are withdrawn do to concerns about structural intergrity of building,
no water pressure in mains, need for personnel for rescue of survivors in WTC
(14 people in stairway B)

Approx 2pm - as per procedures for responding to buildings with structural
problems a surveyor transit is positioned to monitor WTC 7. By 3pm building
is seen "creeping" as fires take hold and gut interior. Orders go out to clear
area and create "collapse zone (2 1/2 times height of building)"

As an aside was in my firehouse on standby monitoring radio communications
from neighboring department on scene - heard the orders go out over the
radios warning everyone to stay clear of WTC 7 do to concerns about
collapse

5:20pm WTC 7 collapses
 
"Metal structures don't fall down. "

That's my favourite.

Such certainty, such clarity and so much crap.
 

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