What's So Bad About Bill O'Reilly?

Mephisto said:
Actually, Lurker - there are 465 skippillons in a day. I realize that must have been a typo, but "science" is quite a bit more exact.
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My bad. Glad someone here is on top of their science.
You can imagine what would happen in a laboratory if you were to raise the temperature of a Rashopap to 1000°C for only 456 skippillons instead of the required 465. ;)
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Kerblooey!
 
According to American scientists, there is a platinum-iridium cylinder in Paris that weighs exactly 2,2046226218487758072297380134503 lbs. French scientists can't measure it so precisely.

That's science. Science that would make O'Reilly proud. :cool:
 
Bill O'Reilly is entertainment and not news, I agree with that. My problem is that Bill O'Reilly does not present himself as entertainment. He sells himself as an honest and creditable news commentator. That's what I object to.
 
For hgc, a comment that makes actual sense .. of course he doesn't realize it. ;)

It is an often unhelpful human trait to pretend that a specific question can be separated from the world at large and adequately and correctly analyzed.

Does O'Reilly make errors? Yup. So what? I wouldn't have wanted to have been the staffer that supplied the fictitous business review as a cite.

But bash away; that's also an often unhelpful human trait.

upchurch said:
He sells himself as an honest and creditable news commentator.
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He is imo. Of course, you disagree with the message, so he is a lying, worthless blabberer.
 
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hammegk said:
For hgc, a comment that makes actual sense .. of course he doesn't realize it. ;)

It is an often unhelpful human trait to pretend that a specific question can be separated from the world at large and adequately and correctly analyzed.

Does O'Reilly make errors? Yup. So what? I wouldn't have wanted to have been the staffer that supplied the fictitous business review as a cite.

But bash away; that's also an often unhelpful human trait.


He is imo. Of course, you disagree with the message, so he is a lying, worthless blabber.
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If you were literate, you'd have learned while reading this thread that many posters here agree with a lot of what O'Really's positions, but have come to dislike him, because of his tactics.

Let me make that easier for you: Even people who agree with him dislike him, because he's a twit.
 
hammegk said:
Does O'Reilly make errors? Yup. So what? I wouldn't have wanted to have been the staffer that supplied the fictitous business review as a cite.
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It would be one thing if he screwed up, then admitted the errors. Or just said "my mistake."

Instead, when someone points out that he's made an error, he blusters, tells them to "shut up" (oh, right, he only used that line once :rolleyes:), makes wild accusations, and generally makes an even bigger fool of himself.

After a while, this becomes a pattern of blatant dishonesty.
 
He is imo. Of course, you disagree with the message, so he is a lying, worthless blabber.
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Did anyone say that he is a liar simply because they disagree with his ideology? He's a liar because there's demonstrable evidence that he lies.
Of course it's not fair to wrongly accuse someone of lying just because you don't like their ideology.

Does O'Reilly make errors? Yup. So what? I wouldn't have wanted to have been the staffer that supplied the fictitous business review as a cite.
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How do you know it was a staffer that supplied that info? And isn't O'Reilly responsible for having a staff that doesn't fabricate information?

eta: if a staffer gave him the Paris B. R info, that person should have been fired and B.O. should have explained what happened. (perhaps this happened-- please advise?). Every journalist can make mistakes, but a good one will admit and explain mistakes (as Cleon pointed out).

eta part 2: here's a correction from yesterday's NYT. Does O'Reilly publish or broadcast corrections (sincere question; not rhetorical)?
 
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Still waiting for a clarification on his Paris Business Review comment. All he has to say is, "I meant magazine XYZ, issue 7, page 12".

That's all. That's it. "I made up the name spur of the moment because I couldn't recall it offhand, but here is the actual data source..."

That's all he has to do, and nobody will blink an eye.
 
Beerina said:
Still waiting for a clarification on his Paris Business Review comment. All he has to say is, "I meant magazine XYZ, issue 7, page 12".

That's all. That's it. "I made up the name spur of the moment because I couldn't recall it offhand, but here is the actual data source..."

That's all he has to do, and nobody will blink an eye.
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Exactly. Again, everyone makes mistakes, but it's hard to believe that this was an honest mistake. And if it was, it was the type of mistake that begs for an explanation.
 
Upchurch said:
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Nope. I've been getting the estate ready for winter, and getting ready for a caribou hunt.

I've never read the Paris Business Review, but I am very aware of the Alaska Business Monthly.
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It's ok, Hunster, we all make mistakes.........
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Hey, I'm ready for winter, and I'm going hunting Thursday afternoon for 3 full days.

How can I possibly be making a mistake?
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'cause there is no Paris Business Review.
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Well, that's one reason why I wouldn't have read it, but not the primary reason.

I really don't give much of a damn about Paris Business.

Now; with me leaving on a 3-day hunt, how am I making a mistake?
 
Upchurch said:
...My problem is that Bill O'Reilly does not present himself as entertainment. He sells himself as an honest and creditable news commentator. That's what I object to.
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A commentator is one who comments.

Just because you don't like his comments rejects him as a commentator?
 
Tony said:
Originally Posted by Huntster
Shutting me up doesn't end speech you don't like.
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Woosh!!!!!

Hear that?

That's the sound of something going over your head.
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Good. I've heard lots of bullets whiz by. BS, too.

As long as it doesn't hit me, or stick to my clothes, I'm fine.
 
hammegk said:
Does O'Reilly make errors? Yup. So what? I wouldn't have wanted to have been the staffer that supplied the fictitous business review as a cite.
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hammegk, nobody supplied him the Paris Business Review. He invents sources all the time. The only difference this time is that he didn't attribute fake information to a real source.

hammegk said:
He is imo. Of course, you disagree with the message, so he is a lying, worthless blabberer.
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No, he is a lying, worthless blabberer because he makes stuff up and passes it off as the truth. Effective boycott on the French? Nope. War on Christmas? Not really.

He fabricates things to be angry about to entertain his audience.
 
Upchurch said:
Originally Posted by Huntster
A commentator is one who comments.

Just because you don't like his comments rejects him as a commentator?
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A person who comments on made-up events is not a commentator. He is a story teller.
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Can a person be a "story teller" today, and a commentator two days ago, and tomorrow?
 
Huntster said:
Shutting me up doesn't end speech you don't like.
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It was a joke. You see, you were defending O'Reilly's fighting the secularist War on Christmas, and I was using a well-known O'Reilly tactic against your position. I don't really have the power to cut off your keyboard and even if I did I wouldn't use that power.
 
Ladewig said:
....You see, you were defending O'Reilly's fighting the secularist War on Christmas....
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Actually, I don't know that I agree with O'Reilly on Christmas. I don't watch his show very often, because I don't watch much TV.

I just don't like how people attack any observance of Xmas in schools or city nativity scenes, and there never seems to be much of an uproar about what is done with Xmas commercially.

Frankly, I'd love to have my religious holiday back; from you, O'Reilly, Walmart, Judge Secularist, or whoever.
 
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