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The US-"Democracy" conspiracy theory

Oliver

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Since no one comes up with some good, new conspiracy theories, i have a new one for you that came into my mind some weeks ago when i posted within politics about the Two-Party-System.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63611

First i thought it belongs to politics, too - but since it is a conspiracy theory...

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After asking i came to following conclusions:

The whole american system is one big conspiracy from powerful people who want to keep their power - come what may.

1. The 2 party system was build to give it a look that the citizens have an option if they vote for one of these parties:

2. Only rich and powerful people have a chance to get the power.

3. At least 30 percent of americans who disagree with with the two "leading" parties have no voice at all. (shut up, scum?)

4. The 2 leading parties seem to be hostile from external view but there is no opposition at all.

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its sort of a two edged sword, people can vote for whoever they want, but they tend to vote fro whoever has the most money (and flashiest commercial)

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"The masses are asses" -Alexander Hamilton
 
People end voting for issues, lesser of 2 evils or not at all. I, being a libertarian, just can't seem to an elect least of 3 evils in. :)
 
Oliver said:
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2. Only rich and powerful people have a chance to get the power.


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Its funny how many rich democrats there are. Gov. John Corizine, NJ, John Kerry Heinz $ Ted Kennedy the 2 "honorable" men from MA. etc etc (Heinz is his married name sinc his wife has the money)
 
2. Only rich and powerful people have a chance to get the power.
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lol

although i agree about rich people, who was the msot successful "thrid party" (presidential) candidate? now tell me who was the wealthiest third party candidate?
 
So no one really disagrees with my CT´s? :boggled: Well, i guess it´s time to publish it within the New York Times and i blame you for any criticism i get. :D
 
270 millions (or whatever) and two parties.

It ok I guess. You only have two radio stations and two tv stations. Because americans think two is enough.

You eat pizza or hamburgers. Drink water or beer. It is great.

Two political parties that covers everyones opinion. Only in America!

The greatest democracy on earth.
 
Oliver said:
After asking i came to following conclusions:

The whole american system is one big conspiracy from powerful people who want to keep their power - come what may.
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Only one thing to say Oliver, the best thing to do when you're making a judgement about a country is to go there at least once.
 
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Oliver said:
Mhmm, i heard it´s not a democracy in terms of a democracy.
That´s the main point of my conspiracy theory. :D

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I don´t care very much about sources in ct-mode but i guess it was this one:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38047&highlight=democracy+america

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That post you linked to is rather odd and interesting.

There's one thing I do find funny though...

The focus on "democracy" seemed to be on the Head of State. A democracy is not meant to have a head of state. The entire POINT of a democracy is to ensure there is no head of state.

I feel the big flaw in the US as a democracy is the notion of a democratically elected head of state. It becomes the focus of the democratic status.

This is against the spirit of democracy.

To be a true democracy, the election process in the USA should focus on the house of representatives. This is the distinction between the USA and other democracies like the United Kingdom, Canada, and New Zealand.

Here, we vote for a local representative who (theoretically at least) represents OUR interests in government and votes to reflect our interests.

And it is the voting in the house of representatives that is the democratic process. Not the elections.

-Gumboot
 
Pardalis said:
Only one thing to say Oliver, the best thing to do when you're making a judgement about a country is to go there at least once.
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I was there and in canada, too... nyaaah nyah-nyah nyaaah nyaaah.
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And since most american CT´ists have no clue about the Reichstagsbrand... ;)
 
Pardalis said:
OK you got me there Oliver. :o
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So you don´t believe that the 2-Party-System is a conspiracy? BTW - how much parties does the canadian parlament have? Three, right?
Maybe this will be my next big conspiracy theory. :D
 
Oliver said:
BTW - how much parties does the canadian parlament have? Three, right?
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We have many, but we mostly rock back and forth between Conservatives and Liberals. So basically we have two parties. I vote for the Bloc anyways. :D

Maybe that's the flaw of democracy, the parties that are in-between get ignored because when given the choice, most people won't bother.
 
Pardalis said:
It might be a flaw, but I wouldn't call it a conspiracy.
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We have 13 Parties even if not all of them are within the Parlament because they didn´t passed through the 5% Barrier. So every democracy with just 2 Parties looks like a bad hoax or to be more polite, like a CT to me.

Btw:

I don´t take it too serious. I just wanted to know if someone is able to disproof me...

...wich did not happen so far. :D
 
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