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of WTC7 and things being pulled

defaultdotxbe said:
well 2 other huge buildings had just collapsed, raining tons of debris on WTC7 and leaving a huge gaping hole in the side of the building, i would guess that in the question 'will it collapse or not" they would want to err on the side of caution
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So you admit you DON'T KNOW how they knew it was going to collapse?

Yes or no, wouldn't one way they would know it was going to collapse is because they were going to demo it?
 
Killtown:

You never answered me. Why if Silverstein spilled the beans to PBS, why didn't he have them edit the video? Was he too dumb to know he spilled the beans? He killed 3,000 people and was loaded, why couldn't he pay PBS off or threaten them?
 
Killtown said:
So you admit you DON'T KNOW how they knew it was going to collapse?

Yes or no, wouldn't one way they would know it was going to collapse is because they were going to demo it?
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no, i dont know how they know, if i knew everything that folks in new york knew on 9/11 id be psychic and id apply for randi's million

yes, foreknowledge of demolition would be way to know, but its very low on the plausibility list

do YOU know how they knew?
 
Killtown said:
Who said he called to "discuss"? Why couldn't he have just called to INFORM?
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sleahead said:
Inform him of what? If he's a perp he knows it all already, probably for months. You CTs have them discussing, Silverstein tells him to "pull it" (CTspeak for blow it up) and then the F.C. goes off and does exactly what he's told. So, inform him of what exactly?
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No answer, Killtown?
 
Blutarsky said:
Killtown:

You never answered me. Why if Silverstein spilled the beans to PBS, why didn't he have them edit the video? Was he too dumb to know he spilled the beans? He killed 3,000 people and was loaded, why couldn't he pay PBS off or threaten them?
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and PBS denies ever producing christophera's concrete core documentary so we know they are down with the NWO
 
Killtown said:
So you admit you DON'T KNOW how they knew it was going to collapse?
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Strawman argument. You have not shown that they "knew" it was going to collapse, and not that they were just fearful of a collapse, or making an educated guess it was going to collapse.
 
Blutarsky said:
Killtown:

You never answered me. Why if Silverstein spilled the beans to PBS, why didn't he have them edit the video? Was he too dumb to know he spilled the beans? He killed 3,000 people and was loaded, why couldn't he pay PBS off or threaten them?
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Killtown can't see this question. His mind can't think about this question. It undoes the beliefs he's invested so much in. A psychological defense mechanism is at play here.
 
If one assumes that approximately 3,000 gallons of fuel were consumed in the initial fireballs, then the remainder either escaped the impact floors in the manners described above or was consumed by the fire on the impact floors. If half flowed away, then approximately 4,000 gallons remained on the impact floors to consumed in the fires that followed. The jet fuel in the aerosol would have burned out as fast as the flame could spread through it, igniting almost every combustible on the floors involved. Fuel that fell to the floor and
did not flow out of the building would have burned as a pool or spill fire at the point where it came to rest.
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assuming, it traveled down the shafts.. assuming the explosions in the lobby were actually "jet fuel"
 
I walked right by WTC7 on 9/11 at around 2pm. Just looking at it, seeing all of the debris piled up against it, and the inferno it was, was more than enough to tell me and those with me that it was going to collapse.

It was also bulging/buckling at the corners.

I seem to remember a firefighter quote saying they put a transit on a point and it was moving over a small period of time.

I'm sure that quote is in Gravy's guide.

That alone is MORE than enough to "know" the building was going to collapse.
 
rearnakedchoke said:
assuming, it traveled down the shafts.. assuming the explosions in the lobby were actually "jet fuel"
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Don't read many technical/scientific papers do you? Do you have any proof their estimates are wrong? Or are you just going to cherrypick to try to prop up your paper tiger?
 
Blutarsky said:
Killtown:

You never answered me. Why if Silverstein spilled the beans to PBS, why didn't he have them edit the video? Was he too dumb to know he spilled the beans? He killed 3,000 people and was loaded, why couldn't he pay PBS off or threaten them?
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asking him to speculate is silly, he messed up, plain and simple, just like rummy saying the "terrorists" shot down flt93..

at the time nobody thought there would be so many people asking questions...

i wonder how many times that special has been on PBS lately.
 
jujigatami said:
I walked right by WTC7 on 9/11 at around 2pm. Just looking at it, seeing all of the debris piled up against it, and the inferno it was, was more than enough to tell me and those with me that it was going to collapse.

It was also bulging/buckling at the corners.

I seem to remember a firefighter quote saying they put a transit on a point and it was moving over a small period of time.

I'm sure that quote is in Gravy's guide.

That alone is MORE than enough to "know" the building was going to collapse.
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somebody should have told the FF on the 78 floor
 
Blutarsky said:
Killtown:

You never answered me. Why if Silverstein spilled the beans to PBS, why didn't he have them edit the video? Was he too dumb to know he spilled the beans? He killed 3,000 people and was loaded, why couldn't he pay PBS off or threaten them?
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Apologize for insulting me and I will.
 
rearnakedchoke said:
does pull it mean pull down with cables?

if so, when did they begin to implement the rigging? if it was evacuated at 12pm'ish

(we pulled it and watched it fall)
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Pull is a demolition term when you're talking about pulling down parts of a building using cables and heavy equipment. It is also a firefighting term referring to pulling out of an area. For example, "Pull everybody out of there," is something a fireperson might say. Since Silverstein was talking to the Fire Chief, not a demolition person, why should we assume he was talking about demolishing a building?

Love the logic by the way; 'does pull it mean pull down with cables? if so, when did they begin to implement the rigging?' Do you honestly not see what's wrong with this?
 
rearnakedchoke said:
asking him to speculate is silly, he messed up, plain and simple, just like rummy saying the "terrorists" shot down flt93..

at the time nobody thought there would be so many people asking questions...

i wonder how many times that special has been on PBS lately.
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It's a very simple question that an intellectually honest person could and should easily answer without much thought.

Bull *****. If he was behind this he would have automatically known he let the proverbial cat out of the bag with that comment. So you believe that he was simultaneously the dumbest and craftiest mass murderer in US history?
 
defaultdotxbe said:
no, i dont know how they know, if i knew everything that folks in new york knew on 9/11 id be psychic and id apply for randi's million

yes, foreknowledge of demolition would be way to know, but its very low on the plausibility list

do YOU know how they knew?
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Wow, the first JREF to actually answer questions posed to them without side-stepping! :jaw-dropp

No, I also don't know how they knew, that's why I don't talk as if I know the reason why they knew it was going to collapse.
 
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