Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Christophera said:
It aired at 8:00 PM in 1990.
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Every night at 8:00 PM???

Or a particular night?

What was the date, liar?

(As it is, that's enough for my purposes. Just got off the phone with my OCD TV-Guide collecting friend in Calif. He is thrilled - it should only take him an hour to scan every entry for PBS in 1990 for 8:00 PM. After all, that's only a few hundred entries... :D )
 
Chris, have you bothered to contact anyone who was involved in the design and construction of the twin towers? You've now had 5 days to do so. Why haven't you done so?
 
GlennB said:
Pouring concrete requires specialised equipment of its own. Why do we not see this equipment in those photos at the top of the under-construction Towers?
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christofoggymemory mentions something like that here strangely his hi-res memory cam was out of order:-


I've seen a picture of the mixer in WTC constrcution photos recently. Don't remember where.
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BV
 
i have to yet to see chris address this documentary which does NOT show any concrete core, it shows in fact a steel core

core.jpg
 
Christophera said:
Thanks for restating the query,

As I had thought, the questions were made moot by my point of the walls being gone. Those workrs did not know why the walls were gone, but I do.

Consider i added 2 accounts relating to explosions. I also added them to my web site here,

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1205439

Meaning the issue of exploding walls underground is basically a substantiated fact.
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once again you weakly try to obfuscate the questions. this shows high moral cowardice on your part.
why can't you just admit that you are wrong about the conclusions you arrived at when you read mike pecararo's story? you fail to answer the reasonable SPECIFIC questions i asked because the only answers you can possibly arrive at blow your "exploding walls at level C" theory right out of the water.
you have absolutely NO CREDIBILITY left. if you had an ounce of pride you would end this tedious, cretinous, campaign NOW.
but i doubt you will. you are so desperate to pump up the hits to your bollock-brained site that, if you could, you would keep up this cretinous farce for eternity. it's therefore rather ironic that you must use a forum dedicated to debunking absurd theories such as yours as the only means to get visitors to veiw your tripe at algoxy.sewage.com.
lonely out there is it chris? you're one sad man.

BV
 
Christophera said:
can't see why the fact i saw the PBS produced DOC. "The Construction of the Twin Towers" on channel 10 KCET, is an issue.

It aired at 8:00 PM in 1990.

The worker was a steel worker who did not remember the core material but rememberd that they were only allowed to build steel 7 floors over it.

What i say is consistent with all the images of the towers demise here,

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html





Meaning that those here who rarely even mention the core of the tower they ostensibly support, are indeed the ones conduction decepetive communications.

They have never even posted a picture from the demo of a steel core column sticking out the top of the tower.
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So the worker did not know what the core was but you do?
 
bonavada said:
christofoggymemory mentions something like that here strangely his hi-res memory cam was out of order:-

BV
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Thanks bonavada ;)

But it wasn't a mixer I was thinking of. More the crane that carries the hopper that contains the gloop from the gloppeta-gloppeta machine ...

I mean that's a hell of a mass of concrete that needs pouring around all the rebar. The gloop crane had to be going full time, no?

Perhaps ChristopherA could explain??
 
GlennB said:
Thanks bonavada ;)

But it wasn't a mixer I was thinking of. More the crane that carries the hopper that contains the gloop from the gloppeta-gloppeta machine ...

I mean that's a hell of a mass of concrete that needs pouring around all the rebar. The gloop crane had to be going full time, no?

Perhaps ChristopherA could explain??
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Actually, yes. They did not bucket the concrete. It was pumped up large temporary pipe up the core.

After talking with the Windwalker, I was trying jog his memory about the core and I knew that the elevator crew called the shots. Whatever would get an elevator further up was a priority for the rest of the crews on the project. I asked him about his elevator rides and the tube the elevators ran in.

He said, "Is that where the concrete went?"

After a second I knew they were pumping and asked him, "So they were pumping concrete up?"

"Yes." he said.
 
Christophera said:
Consider i added 2 accounts relating to explosions. I also added them to my web site here,

<more side-stepping spam>

Meaning the issue of exploding walls underground is basically a substantiated fact.
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you only fool yourself if you think the few paragraphs you link to prove anything even minutely substantive about your moronic "C4rebar exploding walls" nonsense. it really is pathetic.
for instance, what is your source for the William "Roderiguez" story? this man is easily googled and an account HERE is different in very significant ways to yours:-

Christophera's "account"

Seconds before Flight 11 impacted floors 93 to 99 of the North Tower, janitor William Rodriguez heard and felt the concussion of a massive explosion in the sublevels under his feet. Thought the Twin Towers were anchored to bedrock, the floor beneath his feet vibrated and everything started shaking.
Then Rodriguez heard “another explosion from way above.”
Massive walls were cracking when co-worker Felipe David burst into the basement office yelling “explosion! explosion! explosion!” The skin was hanging off his hands and arms.
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CNN (dated 12 sep 2001)

"We heard a loud rumble, then all of a sudden we heard another rumble like someone moving a whole lot of furniture," Rodriguez said. "And then the elevator opened and a man came into our office and all of his skin was off."
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the CNN quotes were reported just 1 DAY following 9/11. his recall must have been vivid at that time. please can you explain why the man's story has changed so significantly in your "account"? (i.e. from"rumble" to "massive explosion")
for any further quotes please give SOURCES!

as for phillip morelli, have you actually read the article at the source you give HERE ? or watched the video? it seems even when you do give a source it turns out to have no bearing on your version of events. where is the evidence in that video for "exploding" walls or ANYTHING that would even hint at embedded C4rebar?
your assertions are, at the least, weak and unfounded they are ineptly-researched and at the worst CYNICAL LIES!

bring it on

BV
 
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OK, let me see if I get this straight:

They were mixing the concrete somewhere below and pumping it up a tube.

IF the mixer were on the ground level, you're talking eventually pumping hundreds or thousands of pounds of concrete against gravity. I'd like to see a pump that could do that.

IF the mixer were only a few floors below the area in question, then they'd still be using machines to lift the mixer, etc. up to new floors. Seems to defeat the purpose of the pump, then.

How did they deal with the leftover concrete still in the pipe? The waste in that would be enormous.

How did they keep the concrete from setting along the outer edge of the pipe, and prevent a 'clogged artery' effect from happening? Surely they didn't add something to it to keep it liquid, considering what they were intending it for - that would defeat the purpose of using concrete at all.

I'm not familiar with this technique, so I could just be ignorant - but that seems the LEAST efficient way imaginable for putting concrete into a building.

Of course, if this is the same guy you spoke to who worked on the building in the early to mid sixties... :D
 
uruk said:
Hey Chris, here is a high resolution photo upped by celestrin from this thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66292

It is two views of the core section which you claim shows a "17 foot" concrete wall.The photos are very clear an of a much higher resolution that the one on your website.

http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/4166.jpg
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/4166.jpg

Can you please point out where the concrete is?
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For that matter, where's the total pulverization?
 
Christophera said:
Actually, yes. They did not bucket the concrete. It was pumped up large temporary pipe up the core.

After talking with the Windwalker, I was trying jog his memory about the core and I knew that the elevator crew called the shots. Whatever would get an elevator further up was a priority for the rest of the crews on the project. I asked him about his elevator rides and the tube the elevators ran in.

He said, "Is that where the concrete went?"

After a second I knew they were pumping and asked him, "So they were pumping concrete up?"

"Yes." he said.
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ahhhh the time-shifing mohawk who was working on the towers about three years before construction began..............

i can't make head or tail of this message. are you saying your concrete went up by elevator? or large pipe? whats this tube you're on about? have you any pictures of this large pipe? i have many pictures of the WTC tower cores. i can't recall noticing any "large pipes" up there.... perhaps you are mixing it up with the pipe you copiously stuff with wacko-bacco and smoke before you post your incredibly befuddled fantasies every day?

BV
 
anyone else notice all chris's interviews seem to involve lots of leading questions and him "jogging peoples memories?"
 
uruk said:
weeeeee!! Here's another view!!!
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/3950.jpg
and another.
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/3949.jpg
and another.
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/3913.jpg
and soforth
http://www.photolibrary.fema.gov/photodata/original/5311.jpg

Who am I kidding. all this proof is not raw enough for concrete brain.
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Those columns are not in the center of the core. They surround the outside of the core and were fastened to it.

"MASSIVE BOX COLUMNS"

After the area is cleaned a little, the remaining block of undetonated core wall stands adjacent to the MASSIVE interior BOX COLUMNS is easily seen.
 
Did you still call no one from the companies who build your concrete core? :rolleyes:
 
Christophera said:
Those columns are not in the center of the core. They surround the outside of the core and were fastened to it.

"MASSIVE BOX COLUMNS"

After the area is cleaned a little, the remaining block of undetonated core wall stands adjacent to the MASSIVE interior BOX COLUMNS is easily seen.
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I see your concrete core, and now?
 
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