BREAKING NEWS - Hypocrites in the White House!

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Hmmmm, maybe the "mandate from heaven" expired?


Aide says White House mocked evangelicals

· Administration accused of cynical ploy to win votes
· Bush adviser denies he called supporters 'nuts'

Julian Borger in Washington
Saturday October 14, 2006

The Guardian

A former senior presidential aide has accused the Bush administration of using evangelical Christians to win votes but then privately ridiculing them once in office. The allegations by David Kuo, the former deputy director of the White House office of faith-based initiatives, come at a devastating time, when the administration is counting on born-again Christians to vote in sufficient numbers to save the Republicans' hold on Congress in the November elections.

In a book entitled Tempting Faith: an Inside Story of Political Seduction, to be published on Monday, Mr Kuo portrays the Bush White House's commitment to evangelical causes as little more than a cynical facade designed to win votes.
"National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ridiculous, out of control, and just plain goofy," Mr Kuo wrote, according to MSNBC television, which obtained an early copy of the book. In particular, he quotes Karl Rove, the president's long-serving political adviser and mentor, as describing evangelical Christians as "nuts".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1922408,00.html
 
The Bush White House is on a slippery slope to oblivion and good riddance. Nothing surprises me about the cynicism any more.
 
I copy pasted this exchange off some blog not long ago. It's not anything new, as the thread title suggests:

Tucker Carlson and Chris Matthews:
CARLSON: It goes deeper than that though. The deep truth is that the elites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for the evangelicals who put their party in power. Everybody in...

MATTHEWS: How do you know that? How do you know that?

CARLSON: Because I know them. Because I grew up with them. Because I live with them. They live on my street. Because I live in Washington, and I know that everybody in our world has contempt for the evangelicals. And the evangelicals know that, and they're beginning to learn that their own leaders sort of look askance at them and don't share their values.

MATTHEWS: So this gay marriage issue and other issues related to the gay lifestyle are simply tools to get elected?

CARLSON: That's exactly right. It's pandering to the base in the most cynical way, and the base is beginning to figure it out
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Gay marriage, flag burning, and violent video games only matter in even numbered years.
 
Too funny. In related news . . .
WSJ Online said:
Tony & Tacky
October 13, 2006; Page W13

MISSING MESSIAH: An obscure evangelist named K.A. Paul got some attention Tuesday after he secured an audience with House Speaker Dennis Hastert at the speaker's home in Illinois, where he hectored Mr. Hastert about the page scandal on Capitol Hill and urged him to resign. Far more interesting, however, was Mr. Paul's indictment of all the members of the Republican Party at a rally in Ohio two days earlier. Their alleged crime -- delaying the Second Coming of Christ.

According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Indian-born Mr. Paul, who is now based in Houston, said that the administration's foreign policy has made it impossible for Christian missionaries to work in Syria, Iran and Iraq. "God is mad at this country," he told onlookers.

In the crowded category of domestic events and world developments that are now being blamed on Mr. Bush, preventing the Second Coming takes the cake. All the same, inquiring minds both religious and secular will now want to know: Exactly when would it have been if the GOP hadn't delayed it?
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There was quote in Scripture somewhere about "coming like a thief in the night" and "look not to the hour of my return" or words to that effect.

Do these evangelicals read their own book? Also, Syria being a tough place for Christians is as old a story as the Horns of Hattin.

DR
 
It will be interesting to see if there is any further fallout after tonights 60 minutes on David Kuo. I thought that I remembered seeing that the evangelicals were running 'counter-programming' at the same time as tonights 60 minutes episode. But, so far I haven't been able to find a link. I believe that it is a closed circuit direct broadcast to a large number of churches (i.e., not over the public airwaves).


A LOSS OF FAITH – Evangelical Christian David Kuo went to work in the Bush Administration with the idea that religion and government could work together. But he left his post disillusioned because he says religious leaders have been manipulated and corrupted for political gain

http://election.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13502.shtml
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Okay. I take back that comment I made in the thread about Madonna's adoption. Sayign the US political system could interfere with God's plans is the most offensive kind of ethnocentrism.
 
And don't forget about the network of gay Republican staffers who quietly toil away behind the scenes.
Further slap in the face toward the anti-gay evangelistas. I think it was Colbert who called them Opus Gay.

The NGLTF condemned what it called emerging attempts to shift responsibility for the Foley scandal by blaming gay Republican congressional staffers for supposedly covering up prior reports of predatory behavior by Foley. It reported that discussions of a supposed network of closeted gay Republicans working on Capitol Hill have swept Internet blogs and been raised on MSNBC and CBS. There are allegations, for example, that gay former Foley aide Kirk Fordham, the recently resigned chief of staff for Rep. Tom Reynolds, R-N.Y., worked to play down complaints about Foley’s behavior. Fordham has said that more than three years ago he had "more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives asking them to intervene."

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ci=108&ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=news&sc3=&id=15406
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Mephisto said:
Hmmmm, maybe the "mandate from heaven" expired?


Aide says White House mocked evangelicals

· Administration accused of cynical ploy to win votes
· Bush adviser denies he called supporters 'nuts'

Julian Borger in Washington
Saturday October 14, 2006

The Guardian

A former senior presidential aide has accused the Bush administration of using evangelical Christians to win votes but then privately ridiculing them once in office. The allegations by David Kuo, the former deputy director of the White House office of faith-based initiatives, come at a devastating time, when the administration is counting on born-again Christians to vote in sufficient numbers to save the Republicans' hold on Congress in the November elections.

In a book entitled Tempting Faith: an Inside Story of Political Seduction, to be published on Monday, Mr Kuo portrays the Bush White House's commitment to evangelical causes as little more than a cynical facade designed to win votes.
"National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ridiculous, out of control, and just plain goofy," Mr Kuo wrote, according to MSNBC television, which obtained an early copy of the book. In particular, he quotes Karl Rove, the president's long-serving political adviser and mentor, as describing evangelical Christians as "nuts".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1922408,00.html
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If there is a bright side to all this, it is the religious nutcases now know everybody thinks they are nuts - even their so-called leaders. If they would just crawl beck into their little holes and leave real people alone life could be so much better (I do not here mean only xtians).
 
I guess this demolishes the "Bush is a religious nut with his finger on the button" notion.
 
Polaris said:
I guess this demolishes the "Bush is a religious nut with his finger on the button" notion.
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Yep! Now it's much better. He's a nut with his finger on the button. Just like Kim Jong "Crazypants" Junior McCuckoo! But at least he's not a religious maniac.
 
pffft.

This is yet another just-in-timer for the election.

Really though, the way things are looking on RCP, it's probably an unnecessary addition.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Yep! Now it's much better. He's a nut with his finger on the button. Just like Kim Jong "Crazypants" Junior McCuckoo! But at least he's not a religious maniac.
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It's a step in the right direction - at least he won't get a message from his imaginary friend in the sky to go and nuke Tashkent or some place.
 
Rob Lister said:
pffft.

This is yet another just-in-timer for the election.

Really though, the way things are looking on RCP, it's probably an unnecessary addition.
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I guess you reap what you sow no matter how ill-timed it is. :)
 
Of course they may think evangelicals are nuts, but does that mean that many in office are not deeply religious?

I doubt that, say, John Ashcroft was not deeply religious. I also think that Bush is somewhat religious. But like the evangelicals they pander to? I never really had the impression that they are.

I'm also a bit suspicious because the author is an evangelical himself, and may simply not think that the Republicans in power are as religious as he and others are (which is probably true).

I think the Republicans are religious, but not the "dancing in church" type...
 
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Evangelicals haven't come away empty-handed from their dalliance with Bush-Rove. But they didn't benefit as much as Bush and the GOP. They can cite Bush's restrictions on embryonic stem cell research and several judicial appointments. But the promised federal ban on homosexual marriage, a principal goal of evangelicals, never materialized. Neither did all the money promised to religious charities, Kuo claims.

In fact, some $20 million more was provided for "compassionate social programs" in the Clinton years than ever materialized under Bush, according to Kuo.
http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/farmer/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1160972784277290.xml&coll=1
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It looks like at least Clinton was smart enough to pay them off for their "assistance."
 
Whatever you say about the content, the title of this thread almost made me choke on my drink.

I think that that's worth something. :wackywink:
 
Polaris said:
It's a step in the right direction - at least he won't get a message from his imaginary friend in the sky to go and nuke Tashkent or some place.
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No, he won't need a message from his imaginary friend in the sky. He will get it from his manipulative and all too real "buddies" around him. Just like last time.
 
Zep said:
No, he won't need a message from his imaginary friend in the sky. He will get it from his manipulative and all too real "buddies" around him. Just like last time.
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Would you stand up to Cheney? He has a history of shooting people in the face!
 
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