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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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stateofgrace said:
99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer...

Take one down, pass it around, 98 bottles of beer on the wall......
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1,000,000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1,000,000 bottles of beer...
Take one down, pass it around, 999,999 bottles of beer on the wall......
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Oliver said:
1,000,000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1,000,000 bottles of beer...
Take one down, pass it around, 999,999 bottles of beer on the wall...... [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/11107451f109db90e3.gif[/qimg]
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Oliver, you get my vote for the funniest German ever. Yay!

(I'm not going to sing tho', sorry).
 
Oliver said:
Another bag of rice felt in china this morning. :eek: :eye-poppi :covereyes
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hah! nice one........
the caption says "Jessica Weisenheimer Reports" but that young lady on the left is CNN anchor monita (can't remember her surname) and she is the hottest news anchor ever afaiac.....drop dead gorgeous. she can shuffle my notes anytime ...........

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BV
 
bonavada said:
hah! nice one........
the caption says "Jessica Weisenheimer Reports" but that young lady on the left is CNN anchor monita (can't remember her surname) and she is the hottest news anchor ever afaiac.....drop dead gorgeous. she can shuffle my notes anytime ...........

[qimg]http://www.gallien.org/serendipity/uploads/cnn_bag_rice_sack_reis.jpg[/qimg]

BV
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Monita Rajpal.

And how about Becky Anderson?
Zain Verjee?
Hala Gorani?

:blush:
 
Christophera said:
A strange and alien concept for you. Raw evidence.
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But your evidence ISN'T raw. The pictures you show are obviously not the originals in full resolution. You obfuscate.

I will accept raw evidence that is presented correctly.
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Since when does the way evidence is presented change anything about the value of the evidence itself ?

The standing rule for WTC 1 was no more thatn 7 floors od steel over the core.
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Source ? Oh, that's right. The non-existent documentary.

It is a known fact to me that there was a concrete core. It is documented with evidence. What is wrong with me using what I know to show what was there to you who do not and consider my propositions as hypothesis, what else would I use?
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What's wrong, chris, is that you can't build credibility by quoting yourself as the sole source of your thesis.

If you do not have the experience required to recognize that only concrete would have that appearance and could only be concrete under those conditions then your requirements exceed the availability of evidence.
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You're forgetting a very important factor in determining the appearance and composition of what you see in the picture: SMOKE.

The delayed detonation allowed the steel to fall away after the floors and columnn cutting charges had disassembled it before the thermite took out many of the perimeter and interio box column bases. If the core was detonated with the steel around it the steel would be thrown outwards damaging surrounding buildings.
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Since this ISN'T from your documentary, please tell us where you got this information.

Steel columns don't just collapse. They topple which is highly visible. We do not see them. Meaning they must have been cut.
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Indeed. And a huge mass of several floors falling onto them WILL do that. Oh, and they bend, too.

Start here. What is seen does not resemble steel core columns and drywall could not survice. What is the core of WTC 2 made of?
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Smoke.

Arus said:
There are photos out there of exactly what goes into prepping a building for demolitions. None of that were evident in the WTC towers.
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Correct, so in order for the towers to come down like this, explosives had to be built in.
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"Correct", followed by a statement that shows you didn't understand a thing he said.
 
Christophera said:
There was no steel core. There were "interior box columns" that were needed to form the concrete core inside.
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That's not how concrete is poured. You lied when you said you had any experience with building construction.

WTC 7 is being re built right now with this technique.
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Actually, it's been finished for a while, now.

The gonzo people think this is drywall
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No one here thinks that.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.p...d=116070504 7
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Now THAT shows you've NEVER been in the construction business.

So sad that you cannot logic what a fact is.
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Uh-huh, but can YOU fact

Below is raw evidence and the fact is that to the left of the steel spire, an interior box column outside the core, is concrete.what a logic is ?
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Again, that's not "raw". And your "cast concrete core wall" arrow points to air.

Now I know your blind. Tower on right, north tower looing at wide side of core. Left, WTC 2, narrow side of core.
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I didn't know you could see THROUGH concrete.

The error that costs us our futures is the one about the concrete.
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I would think, if the CT was correct, there'd be much more at stake than the concrete core. It's not like concrete core buildings CAN'T collapse, you know.

still must somehow support the lie that the murderers hide behind.
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Appeal to emotion. Again.
 
Christophera said:
The image showing the Concrete shear wall to left of interior box column, the "spire" is quite clear.
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That is not a clear picture, without the dust, of the concrete core. It's not even a picture of a concrete core. Show me a picture during construction. A raw picture is preferable.

If you do not have the experience required to recognize that only concrete would have that appearance and could only be concrete under those conditions then your requirements exceed the availability of evidence.

A person with the correct expereince will realize that what is seen may not be easily identifiable visusally as concete, but because of its appearance in that location adjacent to bvious steel columns shown out side the core, they will know the image shows concrete.
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You don't have the experience either.

Please explain why only concrete would appear like that? And why it could not be the columns of the steel core?

The delayed detonation allowed the steel to fall away after the floors and columnn cutting charges had disassembled it before the thermite took out many of the perimeter and interio box column bases. If the core was detonated with the steel around it the steel would be thrown outwards damaging surrounding buildings.

Note the insurance lawsuit. Double payment to a recipient who had private liability and there are not excessive claims from the adjoining buildings.
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Please provide evidence of the cutting charges and of the thermite taking out MANY of the perimeter and interior box colums. Evidence of this happening, not the damage after.

Also, you failed to correctly answer some other questions:

Christophera said:
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If this is not concrete what is it. Drywall is not logical.

<snip>redundant link
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Why is it not logical?

Christophera said:
We can see the dust, we know what it is, and that dark form located exactly at the core is not dust. Your issue is significant.

What is really a significant issue is that you have not produced any proof from the raw evidence of the demoliton that there were steel core columns whiule I have entire site with links to uninterested parties confirming the concrete core.

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html
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What, in your understanding, is raw evidence?


http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1996135&postcount=5187

Looking at those pictures [of 'the pile'] again makes me wonder how the hell did those 18 people survive? Wow, what lucky few.

And since I'm talking about that... Christophera, how did the firefighters and the civilian survive in the staircase inside the core, if that was blown up?


And if the WTC had a concrete core, how come the towers swayed when they where struck by the planes?
 
Looking at those pictures, how can anyone think there was 'total pulverization'?

Oh, right - some people are dumb as a stump. Some are more so.
 
Oliver said:
1,000,000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1,000,000 bottles of beer...
Take one down, pass it around, 999,999 bottles of beer on the wall...... [qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/11107451f109db90e3.gif[/qimg]
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999,999 bottles of beer on the wall, 999,999 bottles of beer,

Take one down, pass it arouns, 999,988 bottles of beer on the wall...

(Sorry, I got thirsty passing that one around and drank 10 more while singing).
 
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Hey, Chris take alook at this and try to explain this away.

Compare the picture of the 27th floor plan provided by Mortimer with the pict of light shining through the tower provided by Gravy. You will clearly see that they coincide. The picture reflects or verifies what the floor plan shows.
 

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